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DeepEnigma
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What a clock tweaks and adjustments along with thermals?
Come on man, you throw your weight around in here, yet you could not parse what he was referring to?
VFXVeteran
Banned
I want people to be verrrry clear. That's all.
Physiognomonics
Member
CPU + GPU (about 9% for the GPU). 9% is the difference between 11 and 12.
Lunatic_Gamer
Gold Member
And the back and fourth continues...
www.tweaktown.com
Microsoft: Xbox Scarlett will kick PlayStation 5's ass in perf/price
Xbox Scarlett will BEAT the PlayStation 5 on both price and performance, says Microsoft.
www.tweaktown.com
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
And the back and fourth continues...
Microsoft: Xbox Scarlett will kick PlayStation 5's ass in perf/price
Xbox Scarlett will BEAT the PlayStation 5 on both price and performance, says Microsoft.
Now that is one clickbait title, not once, but twice.
Nowhere was any of that said.
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Fake
Member
Is the only possibility for next gen. They already will get similar specs.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
Lockhart?
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Imtjnotu
Member
Fuck me. I clicked before I could read the warnings...
TLZ
Banned
I meant what both users below said; increased clocks and better thermals, if possible. Also RAM, since Sony increased that closer to release. Of course they'll be constantly testing all this along the way til cutoff before release.
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Imtjnotu
Member
WTF does any of this mean
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
Remember "Sparkman" from the AquariusZi leaks? They said Oberon is PS5, Arden is Xbox, and they were questioning what Sparkman was. Just like Oberon leak had Gen 0 = 800MHz(PS4 Base), Gen 1 = 911MHz(Pro), and Gen 2 = 2GHz(PS5)...Sparkman has Gen 0 = 4 RBEs, which should be Xbox One base.
Ars Technica:
GPU Curiosity:
Digital Foundry: PS4 has 8 RBEs on spec list off to the left of the article.
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Thus, it is likely that Sparkman is Lockhart since it has BC with Xbox One, Raytracing, and VRS. Arden is already said to be Scarlett.
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demigod
Member
He lied of course.
Mass Shift
Member
CrustyBritches
. You are on point! I have to start saving these links so I don't have to always go looking for them again.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
At first I didn't give much credence to those Aquarius leaks, but after looking through his stuff I think it's highly probable it's all true. Of course it's possible that Sparkman isn't an Xbox product, but the fact it has BC at all, especially with something with 4 RBEs, makes Nintendo or Sony unlikely.
TLZ
Banned
Can't be a new Switch BC with current Switch? Maybe left Nvidia behind? I don't know what these 4 RBE's are.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
Don't know. The Aquarius thread made it seem like Nintendo. Even having a BC mode would make it odd for either the Switch or even something like the SuborZ+. I don't know enough about Tegra or even GPUs in general to explain whether BC could function between vendors and the licensing involved. Would Ninty make a AMD Switch 2 with RT and VRS?
TLZ
Banned
I doubt it.
Butz
Banned
My guess is the difference in power will probably be at about 5%, so pretty negligible. What will matter is how the developers use that power and when it comes to that Sony definitely has the upper hand as the only MS studios who can keep up with Sony in that regard are Playground Games and Ninja Theory and most likely The Initiative based on their recent hires - though it remains to be seen if they will focus on 60FPS or 30FPS games.
Kazekage1981
Member
can games be released in 128GB-512GB SDcard-MicroSDcards instead of Blu-ray disks, or would the read/write speed be too slow?
Kazekage1981
Member
im kind of amazed on the significant jumps we are having for ps5 and Scarlett (wow!):
CPU: Jaguar--->Zen2 or Zen2+
GPU: Polaris--->RDNA with raytracing
Memory: GDDR5--->GDDR6
Optical Drive: 50GB Blu-Ray--->128GB Blu-Ray
USB: MicroUSB---> Possibly Thunderbolt/USB4.0
Wifi: Wifi5--->Wifi6
Video Output: HDMI 2.0--->HDMI 2.1 with variable refresh rate & Freesync(2?)
Memory: 8-12GB GDDR5-->15-25GB GDRR6
Memory Bandwidth: 218GB/s to 326GB/s--->500GB/s to 800GB/s
Storage: HDD--->Fast SSD Drive
Bluetooth: 2.0--->5.1
I'm sure there will be improvements on audio as well. I wish Microsoft would get rid of their nickelodeon barf green color scheme of their xbox brand.
CPU: Jaguar--->Zen2 or Zen2+
GPU: Polaris--->RDNA with raytracing
Memory: GDDR5--->GDDR6
Optical Drive: 50GB Blu-Ray--->128GB Blu-Ray
USB: MicroUSB---> Possibly Thunderbolt/USB4.0
Wifi: Wifi5--->Wifi6
Video Output: HDMI 2.0--->HDMI 2.1 with variable refresh rate & Freesync(2?)
Memory: 8-12GB GDDR5-->15-25GB GDRR6
Memory Bandwidth: 218GB/s to 326GB/s--->500GB/s to 800GB/s
Storage: HDD--->Fast SSD Drive
Bluetooth: 2.0--->5.1
I'm sure there will be improvements on audio as well. I wish Microsoft would get rid of their nickelodeon barf green color scheme of their xbox brand.
Gamernyc78
Banned
Nope I don't get tht at all. I think they'll both try to up one another like thy always do (Sony won tht battle last Gen). Sony are very aware and playing it smart after the PS3 pricing and of course Microsoft is aware of their blunders this gen. Thy are both watching each others move but I'd Def not sleep on Sony thy know what their doing and want to maintain tht momentum thy had all this gen. BTW I'm sure Cerny has some goodies for us we don't know about.
I cannot wait for these reveals
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bhunachicken
Member
I think that would be prohibitively too expensive* this generation. The cost of (bulk) producing a Blu-Ray is likely just a few cents, while the cost of a flash drive would be a few dollars.
(* - is that the correct grammar? Doesn't seem to scan right)
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Lunatic_Gamer
Gold Member
Aaron Greenberg doing what he does best.
kotaku.com
Q&A: Xbox's Aaron Greenberg Says He Isn't Really Worried About PS5
X019, the annual Xbox fan festival, is currently running in London at the Copper Box Arena, where I caught up with Microsoft’s Aaron Greenberg. He’s currently general manager of games marketing at Xbox, after holding multiple roles over the years. Greenberg has been around since the earliest...
kotaku.com
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Aaron Greenberg doing what he does best.
Q&A: Xbox's Aaron Greenberg Says He Isn't Really Worried About PS5
X019, the annual Xbox fan festival, is currently running in London at the Copper Box Arena, where I caught up with Microsoft’s Aaron Greenberg. He’s currently general manager of games marketing at Xbox, after holding multiple roles over the years. Greenberg has been around since the earliest...
Not gonna click, what gems have been PR’ed?
Lunatic_Gamer
Gold Member
This would be great if true. I guess we’ll have to wait and see.
FranXico
Member
So, it would indeed be a proprietary storage solution. The PS5 would be its trojan horse.
Could go either way for them.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Fake, the poster isn’t even aware that SSD was announced.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
The ReRam would be (which is ironically the same size as the UHD storage disc the game comes on), but it will still probably use standard storage (SSD), HDDs you currently have (externals, etc) remains to be seen to House your games.
The games load into ReRam when you want to play them, from the sounds of it.
If true, I can see it going one or both ways. The internal SSD will load games into the ReRam faster to be played instant with no load times, and any HDD you choose to use, will just load into that configuration slower.
This also will lower read/writes on the SSD since the ReRam will be doing it all when playing the games, and it does not suffer from endurance issues the SSD does from having to do it all.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
So this 128gb thing is going to be an optional storage booster at.................. something like $400?
Fake.
Fake.
llien
Member
7870 is not Polaris, cough.
Lort
Banned
None, it was a totally respectful, truthful and poinent assessment of where Microsofts focus is.
Please dont read it so you can continue this narrative that everything he says is BS ...
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Stop projecting. I can’t care less about giving the Kotaku the click more so than your head canon.
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Lort
Banned
.... because your 1 cent worth of clicking is still worth more than your integrity and reputation..
demigod
Member
I tried to expand it on mobile and clicked on it, FML.
nowhat
Member
Unlike Microsoft, Sony (at least according to them, so far) still firmly believes in console generations. We may be seeing a Pro slim of sorts, but I doubt they'll be pushing the previous gen much once PS5 is out.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
You here to discuss and speculate hardware, or have a persecution complex on behalf of MS/Kotaku and project that on me at a personal level?
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Lort
Banned
im just pointing out you refusing to even read an article your commenting on .. of which all your speculation was wrong about ...does nothing for your integrity or reputation. If you honestly cant be bothered reading the things you comment on .. are your comments worth reading?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
RaySoft
Member
I just cant understand some of you guys that are on the 60 fps wagon. I understand that you want a solid framerate, but with every console generation it brings with it a fundamental change in game design.
With this new power you can use that to create a whole new game world that are not possible on current gen. consoles. Would you rather continue the same "stagnat" game design of todays with 60 fps, or would you prefere a richer game design/worlds/gameplay that you can't even imagine as of today?
I for one lean more towards the latter. If all developers were going to heed the calls of 60fps, we would always be a generation behind in terms of game design. Power thrusts new ideas forwards, but you would rather play last years GOW in 60 fps instead, wouldnt you?
With this new power you can use that to create a whole new game world that are not possible on current gen. consoles. Would you rather continue the same "stagnat" game design of todays with 60 fps, or would you prefere a richer game design/worlds/gameplay that you can't even imagine as of today?
I for one lean more towards the latter. If all developers were going to heed the calls of 60fps, we would always be a generation behind in terms of game design. Power thrusts new ideas forwards, but you would rather play last years GOW in 60 fps instead, wouldnt you?
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