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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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THE:MILKMAN

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Both dev kits aren't final. Osirisi mentioned that. It should be around E3. Maybe MS sent to devs recently a dev kits which are stronger than PS5s dev kits for now. But final ones with final target specs, like i've said, should be around E3. As it is stated before by insiders, PS5 has a higher target specs.

Just as a reminder :




Near final in what sense though? I believe the January 2013 PS4 dev kit had final spec APU/RAM but not final other things like USB ports/Front cameras etc. We know for a fact the PS4 Pro dev kit was final spec with the post GDC 2016 dev kit but it wasn't the final dev kit either.
 
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Everyone arguing about nothing in here.

March 11th.
 

Disco_

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U guys are ridiciouls if hey are as close as osiris says they are (like 0.2 tf of each other )who the fuck cares ?
These guys care

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Near final in what sense though? I believe the January 2013 PS4 dev kit had final spec APU/RAM but not final other things like USB ports/Front cameras etc. We know for a fact the PS4 Pro dev kit was final spec with the post GDC 2016 dev kit but it wasn't the final dev kit either.

I dunno. Maybe in FLOPS, frequency, maybe with more CU's
 

THE:MILKMAN

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I dunno. Maybe in FLOPS, frequency, maybe with more CU's

I doubt they'll be substantial changes at this point. The V dev kit went out to third-parties after the April Wired article with nothing to indicate any iterations until the last few days. It would be odd that devs would work with a kit for almost a year and then get a new kit with substantially changed specs now.
 

schaft0620

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Bro wear mask and stuff and have anti bacterial in your pants to clean ur hand every hour man . Be safe


Here's a funny story for you, I just found out I have allergies. My nose, ears, throat are pretty screwed up. I am coughing up solids. I can't take anything for it until my allergy test Tuesday afternoon. My first APT is Wednesday at 5PM.

BGs BGs new cold black toy? I am now even more excited.

You coming to Pax? Can I see these mod DMs in person?
 
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JAMMA

Last warning for console wars
Here's a funny story for you, I just found out I have allergies. My nose, ears, throat are pretty screwed up. I am coughing up solids. I can't take anything for it until my allergy test Tuesday afternoon. My first APT is Wednesday at 5PM.
What color is your sputum? I mean, it’s more likely that you have a viral or bacterial infection than suddenly acquiring allergies as an adult so bad that you’d be coughing up solids. Allergies usually cause a dry cough.
 

schaft0620

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What color is your sputum? I mean, it’s more likely that you have a viral or bacterial infection than suddenly acquiring allergies as an adult so bad that you’d be coughing up solids. Allergies usually cause a dry cough.

My Doctor says it's allergies, seeing a specialist on Tuesday, dry cough for sure. I was talking antihistamines to clear it out but you have to stop x days before your allergy test (Tuesday afternoon). So I'll be fine by Wednesday PM.
 

Roronoa Zoro

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MS did its final upclock in august. are you saying they should wait until august?

its weird that you say that they dont HAVE to respond to what the competitor is doing and then turn around and say that they are literally waiting to see what the competitor does.

the fact of the matter is that their marketing strategy has got even their most loyal fans baffled by their indecision. yes, they dont have to follow the Feb reveal but in marketing and PR, you have to soften the blow of each piece of bad news with a good one. they have had a string of bad announcements back to back to back with no real plan put forward.

And its not like we dont have another company who isnt doing those things. MS held a mini reveal and showed a next gen game and a console form factor, and then had a somewhat vague but reassuring spec reveal. then they said we are going to be at E3. E3 is months away but the fans know they are going to be there. there is no indecision, no guess work, they have given a timeline and gave us a taste to keep everyone hungry for more but not desperate.

one could argue that they didnt even have to do that because they dont have to respond to any negative leaks like the github leaks and other poorly received announcements like not being at E3. and yet they went ahead and did their mini reveal anyway.

its marketing 101
It's one way to market and I'm not knocking MS's strategy either. If Sony responded with actual marketing and statements to every random internet rumor like the GitHub thing they would look panicky to me. That's a flea to them. It's not going to effect their sales even .000001% whether they respond to that or not. It could be August or they could do a big thing just after E3 and let everyone preorder and give a date and then a second event in September with specific specs. And I don't even know if that's why Sony hasn't said anything I was just spitballing.

They should respond and they have plenty of time to. Stuff said before preorders are even available and before there's even real press for these things is so miniscule. At this time last cycle we were thinking Sony was gonna have DRM and check ins like MS was planning because they hadn't explicitly denied it. Guess what happened? They were patient and blindsided Xbox after Xbox's E3 conference

Hell I remember the ticker on Spike TV saying Sony was possibly gonna have 3 versions of PS4 available from $399 to $599 and that was in the middle of E3 conference day. My point being that them letting the rumors go unchallenged has no bearing on where they actually stand in this race. They could be underpowered and having issues or they could be just fine. We have no firm indication either way and there are conflicting rumors
 
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JAMMA

Last warning for console wars
My Doctor says it's allergies, seeing a specialist on Tuesday, dry cough for sure. I was talking antihistamines to clear it out but you have to stop x days before your allergy test (Tuesday afternoon). So I'll be fine by Wednesday PM.

I’ve got some good news and some bad news for you. The good news is that you’ll probably feel better if you get your medications on Wednesday.

The bad news is that if you die before Wednesday your doctor was probably wrong. 👨🏻‍⚕️🤷🏻‍♂️
 

DJ12

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Version of each not known, but it's known that PS5 isn't final? So that must mean X isn't final? So none are final!? Lol.
Not sure your logic is sound there fanboy. We know final hardware xbox devkits exist and have been delivered to certain devs.

UBI seem pretty big, so could have them.
 

HeisenbergFX4

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What will happen if the “vetted” insiders are proven to be phonies HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING of course ;)
That’ll be amazing..

See the thing is the numbers I have passed along I hope I am proven wrong.

That means us as gamers win and we are getting truly monster machines.

Plus you all can laugh at me and I will eat crow or whatever else you serve me and will smile and still love you all, well most of you all ;)

With how current gen games can look on the Pro and X I will be very happy to play on a 10 ish TF machine and can't wait to see what Devs can do with even that much power.

So Osiris/Heisenberg, is this going to be another generation like Pro vs X? Where will the extra 10% go on the XSX?
(23.33% if it’s 9.2 vs 12) 🧚🏻‍♀️✨

With diminishing returns a 10% or so power gap is nothing this upcoming gen.

My 2 cents on that one
 
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01011001

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See the thing is the numbers I have passed along I hope I am proven wrong.

That means us as gamers win and we are getting truly monster machines.

Plus you all can laugh at me and I will eat crow or whatever else you serve me and will smile and still love you all, well most of you all ;)

With how current gen games can look on the Pro and X I will be very happy to play on a 10 ish TF machine and can't wait to see what Devs can do with even that much power.

well your numbers seem realistic... I think many people just really have issues believing osirisblack's above 12TF stuff... like... that even stretches it for that supposed $500 pricetag the PS5 seemingly has... that would more likely than not result in a system that would be priced somewhere close to $600 to be sold without a loss.
we are talking almost Titan RTX performance numbers here since we have to assume these APUs can't boost as high as the Titan RTX can and if you run it at non-boost clocks that's a 12.5TF card. and if the PS5 actually runs a GPU more in line with an RTX2080 at 2ghz, how fucking big will that thing be to cool that chip down?
 
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Aceofspades

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So Osiris/Heisenberg, is this going to be another generation like Pro vs X? Where will the extra 10% go on the XSX?
(23.33% if it’s 9.2 vs 12) 🧚🏻‍♀️✨

PS4 was 40% stronger than Xbox one not including Ram advanteges too.

Xbox One X was 40% more than Pro (similar Ram setups but higher BW on X)

PS5 and SeriesX rumored to be almost identical with power advantage within 10% of each other and similar Ram setups (power can go either way)

So in summary, PS5 and SeriesX is the closest gen power wise in console history, they are basically a twins in a different shell.
 

JAMMA

Last warning for console wars
See the thing is the numbers I have passed along I hope I am proven wrong.

That means us as gamers win and we are getting truly monster machines.

Plus you all can laugh at me and I will eat crow or whatever else you serve me and will smile and still love you all, well most of you all ;)

With how current gen games can look on the Pro and X I will be very happy to play on a 10 ish TF machine and can't wait to see what Devs can do with even that much power.



With diminishing returns a 10% or so power gap is nothing this upcoming gen.

My 2 cents on that one
I’m pretty sure That if they’re going to be so bold as to even attempt Ray Tracing on these consoles that they won’t nearly have enough power TBH. They’ll be needing every last drop because even optimized RT at low/medium is probably gonna’ eat up at least 25% of the resources all by itself. 😳
 

OsirisBlack

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See the thing is the numbers I have passed along I hope I am proven wrong.

That means us as gamers win and we are getting truly monster machines.

Plus you all can laugh at me and I will eat crow or whatever else you serve me and will smile and still love you all, well most of you all ;)

With how current gen games can look on the Pro and X I will be very happy to play on a 10 ish TF machine and can't wait to see what Devs can do with even that much power.

I hope so too. (doubt it though)
My mind has been blown twice now. My biggest thing is if this is what can be done on multi platform I just cannot wait to see what the first party devs cook up.
 

HeisenbergFX4

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I hope so too. (doubt it though)
My mind has been blown twice now. My biggest thing is if this is what can be done on multi platform I just cannot wait to see what the first party devs cook up.

People are too fixated on numbers this gen and I blame MS for beating us over the head with that 6 tf number.

If we get 12 or above, amazing.

No matter what lets see the games and yeah, imagine what a first party dev could do especially working on one machine specs that blow away anything we have ever seen in the console space.
 
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