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[Insane Metal]

Yeah, with an upside down heatsink exactly like the PS4Pro.

No, the heatsink is right over the APU, it's just turned upside down inside the console. Not the same thing.

 

[44alltheway]

*Wink wink nudge nudge*... ahem... interesting .

Shouldn't moderators be vetting the people that are making these claims though?

 

[TLZ]

Shouldn't moderators be vetting the people that are making these claims though?

Maybe Swizzle just did.

 

[shenmue mugen]

Guys there is a good reason why sony hasn't spoken about memory in PS5 yet unlike MS. Trust me.
Also the most ordinary employee in huge companies like Ubi or EA knows about the target specs for both Prospero and Anaconda.

So...are these consoles similar performance wise?

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

Cause I wanna see people's reactions for the first time in PSM [2] )!

I have to ask....why is the 2 in brackets and how does it relate to a PlayStation Meeting? That can't be in the NDA!?

 

[sonomamashine]

24GB RAM?

He probably means 32GB Ram, 14.3Tf Rdna2, is that it ?

Shouldn't moderators be vetting the people that are making these claims though?

i think he just accidently confirmed he's Mark Cerny, like why is he doing that , lol i think he vetted him (who ever he is).

 

[sonomamashine]

I have to ask....why is the 2 in brackets and how does it relate to a PlayStation Meeting? That can't be in the NDA!?

because they releasing two boxes like xbox series x & s.
Playstation 5 & 5s ?

 

[vivftp]

I have to ask....why is the 2 in brackets and how does it relate to a PlayStation Meeting? That can't be in the NDA!?

I think he's just saying PlayStation Meeting 2, whereas #1 was the one for the PS4.

To any of the insiders posting in this thread, is anyone at all willing to comment on the subject of ReRAM in the PS5?

 

[CameFromNearFuture]

Ok.

I misidentified T tommy by someone else. I have a second check

He's on to something here (hype)

 

[TLZ]

Ok.

I misidentified T tommy by someone else. I have a second check

He's on to something here (hype)

Man.

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

Ok.

I misidentified T tommy by someone else. I have a second check

He's on to something here (hype)

Wait..What happened. ?

Swizzle, can you clarify what is going on here?

 

[vivftp]

Ok.

I misidentified T tommy by someone else. I have a second check

He's on to something here (hype)

So you're now agreeing that Tommy Fisher's talk about the RAM could be accurate? That's quite a change from a few posts ago...

 

[CameFromNearFuture]

So you're now agreeing that Tommy Fisher's talk about the RAM could be accurate? That's quite a change from a few posts ago...

It happens. I also make mistakes. I am no Cerny

 

[Thedtrain]

I feel like we’re being larped

 

[SlimySnake]

. I am no Cerny

You are no insider either.

 

[Fake]

Plot twist.

 

[ResilientBanana]

Insiders should be reported to be vetted. I don’t think they would make that much of a big deal trying to convince people if they actually were. They wouldn’t need to.

 

[vivftp]

It happens. I also make mistakes. I am no Cerny

Interesting... CameFromNearFuture and Tommy Fisher well are either of you two willing to say anything about ReRAM? Be it "no" or "yes" as to whether it's in the PS5? Or even an "I don't know"?

 

[Sosokrates]

The XSX is 432 cubic inches³
The 1X is 263 cubic inches.

Theres a reason why the XSX has more space.
My guess is 48 - 52cus @ 1600-1700mhz.

We have to remember the SoC also has a 8core Zen2 which will be putting out some heat too.
Even an SOC with a 8 core zen2 + a 5700xt would need a rather serious cooling system

If designed like this with a huge heatsink and fan, 52,56cus @ 1600-1800mhs is possible.
Makes you wonder why this design has not be done before.

 

[Swizzle]

Shouldn't moderators be vetting the people that are making these claims though?

Hence the kind veiled suggestion to the poster in question to talk a bit to the team or maybe reconsider the insidur sounding approach .

 

[Insane Metal]

We're being bamboozled.

 

[CameFromNearFuture]

You are no insider either.

If You think so, thats ok.
But when the time comes, the truth Will be on my side, and I Will blow the candles cake, and You shall honor me

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

The XSX is 432 cubic inches³
The 1X is 263 cubic inches.

Theres a reason why the XSX has more space.
My guess is 48 - 52cus @ 1600-1700mhz.

We have to remember the SoC also has a 8core Zen2 which will be putting out some heat too.
Even an SOC with a 8 core zen2 + a 5700xt would need a rather serious cooling system

If designed like this with a huge heatsink and fan, 52,56cus @ 1600-1800mhs is possible.
Makes you wonder why this design has not be done before.

That's interesting but wouldn't it mean a motherboard less than 6 inches square? I can't see how all components could fit looking at the One X motherboard?

Could it be split into two boards?

 

[44alltheway]

Hence the kind veiled suggestion to the poster in question to talk a bit to the team or maybe reconsider the insidur sounding approach .

well that sounds good, please let us know if the poster has any sort of credentials to know this stuff. Thanks!

 

[Andodalf]

The XSX is 432 cubic inches³
The 1X is 263 cubic inches.

Theres a reason why the XSX has more space.
My guess is 48 - 52cus @ 1600-1700mhz.

We have to remember the SoC also has a 8core Zen2 which will be putting out some heat too.
Even an SOC with a 8 core zen2 + a 5700xt would need a rather serious cooling system

If designed like this with a huge heatsink and fan, 52,56cus @ 1600-1800mhs is possible.
Makes you wonder why this design has not be done before.

I don't think it has a nearly as expensive cooling solution, meaning it needs to be larger to accommodate a similar thermal envelope

 

[DeepEnigma]

That's interesting but wouldn't it mean a motherboard less than 6 inches square? I can't see how all components could fit looking at the One X motherboard?

Could it be split into two boards?

The motherboard is probably below the disc drive against the long way. So horizontal it lays flat like it does with current consoles.

 

[Sosokrates]

That's interesting but wouldn't it mean a motherboard less than 6 inches square? I can't see how all components could fit looking at the One X motherboard?

Could it be split into two boards?

I think it will have to be split in multiple boards, because regardless of where the mother board is its going to be smaller then what's in a ps4/1x style box.

The motherboard could be bigger like this.

 

[TeamGhobad]

 

[vivftp]

CameFromNearFuture I guess I'll take that as a subtle yes

 

[Stuart360]

Dont Xbox usually have good sales in November and December?. I wonder how much officially announcing Series X will have on sales this holiday.

EDIT. I suppose the announcement was long enough into December that anyone who was buying a XB1 for Christmas probably already bought it.

 

[Andodalf]

The series X will probably have a layout similar to the circular Mac Pro, right? With a disk drive in place of a DGPU

 

[vivftp]

Ok insiders let me toss out another term, feel free to give a yay or nay

Chiplets

 

[44alltheway]

Ok insiders let me toss out another term, feel free to give a yay or nay

Chiplets

Insiders are getting real quiet now that mods are asking them about info

 

[Mass Shift]

Series X is probably going to be one of the better un- boxing experiences we have.

 

[TeamGhobad]

Series X is probably going to be one of the better un- boxing experiences we have.

one more year

 

[McHuj]

Let's go back to what we actually know - no rumors here:


Xbox Series X:
- Has a NAVI 2.0 based GPU (HW RT), double the XBox One X performance;


PlayStation 5:
- Has a NAVI 2.0 based GPU (HW RT), unknown performance;

That's about it.

I don't know if we can confidently say that. AMD hasn't said what Navi 2.0 (Or RDNA 2.0) actually is. I hope that happens at CES.

I think we can safely say that both are beyond NAVI 1.0. We don't even know if they have the same RT HW solution. There were rumors that they are different.

No just pure speculation, I think MS may have something that is close to RDNA 2.0 while Sony may have some custom solutions that will only show up in their console and never make it to PC components.

 

[megreotsugua]

Haha, Memory on Substrate. Super complex chip using 3D stacking. HBM? Maybe or maybe not? Who knows )

I'm treating what you say here as your speculation just to be safe. (My hype are so damn high right now.)

Anyway, what are your thoughts about STT-MRAM? Sony is already mass producing that kind of memory for a company called Avalanche. I also read Intel is planning to put L4 cache using MRAM in their CPUs. Isn't STT-MRAM a good candidate for L4 cache?

 

[V4skunk]

holy crap. binned hbm2 rumors might be true

For a mass produced console?

 

[ArabianPrynce]

can this guy be trusted?

its crazy to think 12 tflops of rdna right?

He has been verified by zhugeex who is also a very very realiable source for leaks a while back

 

[Insane Metal]

Insiders are getting real quiet now that mods are asking them about info

Why. Oh God I wonder WHY IS THAT

 

[Sosokrates]

Series X is probably going to be one of the better un- boxing experiences we have.

All xbox consoles have this gen,

PS4 consoles use plain cardboard packaging.
I don't mind as its only packaging, as longs as it protects the products that is the most important aspect.
But nice packaging is a nice touch, makes the unboxing experience more special.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Forget about HBM2 or RERAM. Not happening.

Doesn't matter. Sony is going to clap real fucking loud with their specs. They will match the sexbox and exceed them with what they got cooking up with regards to the SSD

They do that every generation.

PS2 was promoted with an Nvidia 2.5TF RSX. Ya, 2.5TF.

And PS3 was 1080p at 120 fps.

Look how that turned out.

 

[Sosokrates]

He has been verified by zhugeex who is also a very very realiable source for leaks a while back

This klee (really name Kelly rickards) worked at gamefan magazine in the mid to late 90s then left there to work at EGM magazine, until 2004.
But he says he has kept in touch with his contacts in the industry.
I do wonder how trusted a magazine writer who left the industry 15yrs ago, can be.
His source who he claims is a dev must really like him to give him info that he then passes onto a Internet forum, seems a bit fishy, but you never know, his info could be genuine.

 

[44alltheway]

This klee (really name Kelly rickards) worked at gamefan magazine in the mid to late 90s then left there to work at EGM magazine, until 2004.
But he says he has kept in touch with his contacts in the industry.
I do wonder how trusted a magazine writer who left the industry 15yrs ago, can be.
His source who he claims is a dev must really like him to give him info that he then passes onto a Internet forum, seems a bit fishy, but you never know, his info could be genuine.

def more trusted than any of the insiders here.

 

[Sosokrates]

def more trusted than any of the insiders here.

Well, that's setting the bar extremely low.
None of the "insiders" here have been vetted.

 

[ArabianPrynce]

Well, that's setting the bar extremely low.
None of the "insiders" here have been vetted.

klees info and matt have been good so far. Both of em hinted that scarellet info for the game awards. Matt confirmed hw ray tracing for both

 

[ManaByte]

def more trusted than any of the insiders here.

He spread a lot of FUD in 2013. It was either him or Thuway who came up with the “bad yield” bullshit.

 

[Insane Metal]

klees info and matt have been good so far. Both of em hinted that scarellet info for the game awards. Matt confirmed hw ray tracing for both

Matt said he believes Scarlett is stronger too. He said he didn't really know but he'd probably bet on MS having the strongest console.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

This klee (really name Kelly rickards) worked at gamefan magazine in the mid to late 90s then left there to work at EGM magazine, until 2004.
But he says he has kept in touch with his contacts in the industry.
I do wonder how trusted a magazine writer who left the industry 15yrs ago, can be.
His source who he claims is a dev must really like him to give him info that he then passes onto a Internet forum, seems a bit fishy, but you never know, his info could be genuine.

Someone working at GF can't be trusted.

I used to buy that mag in the 90s from somewhere around 1994-1996 when PS1 and Saturn were the rage.

I think just about every game in that mag got a review score of 75% or more. And I thought Game Informer was bad with skewed reviews.

 

[CyberPanda]