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[thismeinteil]

Lol MS was never considering cancelling the Xbox division. If this were actually something they considered in 2015-2016, why is there only a single tweet from one person that can be referenced? Rumors that big with some bit of substance to them, would be getting reported on by everyone. Tons of journalists, Youtubers, IGN, Wired, Gamasutra, WCC, Forbes etc.

That should probably indicate there wasn't much smoke to that rumor, so no fire. But yeah, they were in a shitty place at that time and needed to rethink a lot of things.

They may have the dates wrong, as it was 2013-2014 when we heard the most noise about Xbox being spun off (which would have led to its death) or being sold off, but it did happen. Shareholders had been wanting MS to drop Xbox for a decade. They had never made up for the billions that they lost on R&D, selling HW at a loss, and RROD from the Xbox and 360. With Ballmer leaving, and a new CEO coming in, they thought they had a good shot at it happening. Bill Gates even stated that he was fine with spinning off the division into its own company. And without MS's resources, the company would have died. I believe it was rumored that one of the choices for CEO, Alan Mulally, would have done just that.

However, the new CEO, Nadella, chose to keep the Xbox division. Though, it was very obvious that he cut their budget drastically. Very few 3rd party exclusive games or DLC, whether timed or true. Many projects were scrapped. And ones that did finally release were mediocre, at best, with only a couple of exceptions that were actually good. A far cry from the 360 era. It is pretty obvious that they have an improved budget to start the next gen with. Of course, this is the norm. If the XBSX doesn't pan out, you can bet the budget will be cut, again. Or, at the very least, be taken from a focus on funding HW to more xCloud funding, where Nadella's true passion lies.

 

[quest]

They may have the dates wrong, as it was 2013-2014 when we heard the most noise about Xbox being spun off (which would have led to its death) or being sold off, but it did happen. Shareholders had been wanting MS to drop Xbox for a decade. They had never made up for the billions that they lost on R&D, selling HW at a loss, and RROD from the Xbox and 360. With Ballmer leaving, and a new CEO coming in, they thought they had a good shot at it happening. Bill Gates even stated that he was fine with spinning off the division into its own company. And without MS's resources, the company would have died. I believe it was rumored that one of the choices for CEO, Alan Mulally, would have done just that.

However, the new CEO, Nadella, chose to keep the Xbox division. Though, it was very obvious that he cut their budget drastically. Very few 3rd party exclusive games or DLC, whether timed or true. Many projects were scrapped. And ones that did finally release were mediocre, at best, with only a couple of exceptions that were actually good. A far cry from the 360 era. It is pretty obvious that they have an improved budget to start the next gen with. Of course, this is the norm. If the XBSX doesn't pan out, you can bet the budget will be cut, again. Or, at the very least, be taken from a focus on funding HW to more xCloud funding, where Nadella's true passion lies.

We will never know if the 360 made its money I think it did easy selling 80 million consoles gold and lots of 3rd party games for a cut of them. The problem is it was reported with big time losers like zune and other non core MS ventures that failed that made it look bad in quarter reports. After seeing Google crash and burn with stardia I doubt the MS is hopefully a cloud venture in gaming will work outside supplementing the ecosystem as a perk for ultimate to get that 15 a month for users who might use it time to time on the go.

 

[Zero909]

What if PS5:

PS5's GPU {
2x PS4 Pro Overclocked GPUs + a RT engine?
10 TFlops + 2.5 TFlops RT processor.}

+ Nextgen CPU
+ Nextgen SSG ready SSD
+ 16 HBM2 Ram
+ 8 DDR"3" (2GB SSD Cache e 6GB OS and Apps)

Not an insider, just a guess.

 

[Sinthor]

Love this post so much.

Yeah 37 here and still love gaming.

Unfortunately moneyhatting is what gets people to choose one system over the other so that will never go away. Afterall business is business and we'er all dollar potential dollar signs to these corporations.

Can't wait to see the first next gen games gameplay in uncompressed 4K on my tv. I'm sure i'm going to need a few babywipes and a bottle lotion.

Damn! Am I the only one here in their 40's? I NEVER thought I'd be 'that old dude' playing games. Then again, I kind of got into them late...PS2 but got hooked. I'm going to get a PS5 regardless of all the drama around "power" because of exclusives. BUT, if there IS a big and noticeable power difference I MIGHT get both. I'm kind of doubting that will happen though. Time will tell!

 

[quest]

Damn! Am I the only one here in their 40's? I NEVER thought I'd be 'that old dude' playing games. Then again, I kind of got into them late...PS2 but got hooked. I'm going to get a PS5 regardless of all the drama around "power" because of exclusives. BUT, if there IS a big and noticeable power difference I MIGHT get both. I'm kind of doubting that will happen though. Time will tell!

I'm also the old guy yelling at the clouds nearing the big 50. I'll end up with both but series x first because of gamepass then PS5 for exclusives after a price drop or slim.

 

[Neo Blaster]

Damn! Am I the only one here in their 40's? I NEVER thought I'd be 'that old dude' playing games. Then again, I kind of got into them late...PS2 but got hooked. I'm going to get a PS5 regardless of all the drama around "power" because of exclusives. BUT, if there IS a big and noticeable power difference I MIGHT get both. I'm kind of doubting that will happen though. Time will tell!

43 here, pal, gaming since Odissey² and struggling to find time nowadays.

 

[Yakuzakazuya]

Damn! Am I the only one here in their 40's? I NEVER thought I'd be 'that old dude' playing games. Then again, I kind of got into them late...PS2 but got hooked. I'm going to get a PS5 regardless of all the drama around "power" because of exclusives. BUT, if there IS a big and noticeable power difference I MIGHT get both. I'm kind of doubting that will happen though. Time will tell!

42. Currently busy with Switch. Will buy PS5 next.

 

[LED Guy?]

So nothing new huh? Damn the wait is killing me!

 

[Foamy]

I fear PSVR2 will not be everything I'm dreaming it will be if they don't hit at least 11 TB.

 

[TLZ]

As a fat balding man this post hurt my feelings

All this time I imagined you were Jack Whitehall.

 

[VN1X]

I am 32 and playing through Onimusha on Switch for the first time and recently bought Ace Combat 6 after absolutely loving Skies Unknown.

I'm so hipster I don't even play current-gen games!

 

[Nickolaidas]

Hey all,

Long time reader here in this thread. I'm really excited to see where next-gen consoles take us. Even at 35, I'll never waver on my passion for gaming, especially with my young son enjoying Minecraft, etc.

It is really fun to read those who research and delve so far in-depth of what "might be" related to Sony, be it leaks or whatnot.

Personally, I don't think there will be any discernable difference between the two systems.

Maybe the SSD, but GPU and CPU will probably be 10% or less by the time finalized kits hit in June.

Everybody sat around for months scoffing at ideas such as 12TF, SSDs, Ray Tracing, and many other high-end predictions. All of sudden, it came true.


I don't find Sony's relative silence all that worrisome, honestly. For a company to just show a logo and send people into a frenzy, I think they've got it made. They just need to capitalize on it when the reveal comes around.

We shall see, but I feel confident both systems will be a win for gamers and neither will have any real edge.

The only thing, as a gamer, I *don't* want to see is a bunch of "moneyhatting" by either party.

I'm just not a fan, because though it wasn't entirely a moneyhat, having to buy an Xbox for Shenmue II in the US ticked me off in yesteryear.

Welcome! Don't be a jerk on the forums, as we lack a vacant position.

 

[Nickolaidas]

Damn! Am I the only one here in their 40's? I NEVER thought I'd be 'that old dude' playing games. Then again, I kind of got into them late...PS2 but got hooked. I'm going to get a PS5 regardless of all the drama around "power" because of exclusives. BUT, if there IS a big and noticeable power difference I MIGHT get both. I'm kind of doubting that will happen though. Time will tell!

40 years old for the past 3.5 weeks.

 

[PropellerEar]

40+ still love games, just don't have as much time for gaming as I used to.

 

[TLZ]

So State of Play reveal it is.

 

[Niked]

There will be nothing... Nothing.. Only chaos

 

[Sinthor]

I'm also the old guy yelling at the clouds nearing the big 50. I'll end up with both but series x first because of gamepass then PS5 for exclusives after a price drop or slim.

Well, I'm closer to 50 now than 40. I hear you. I'm hoping I can keep gaming for another 20-30 years at least!

 

[Shmunter]

Damn! Am I the only one here in their 40's? I NEVER thought I'd be 'that old dude' playing games. Then again, I kind of got into them late...PS2 but got hooked. I'm going to get a PS5 regardless of all the drama around "power" because of exclusives. BUT, if there IS a big and noticeable power difference I MIGHT get both. I'm kind of doubting that will happen though. Time will tell!

Don’t worry bro, I got your back

 

[FranXico]

Am I the only one here in their 40's?

No, you're not.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

All this time I imagined you were Jack Whitehall.

 

[Nickolaidas]

There will be nothing... Nothing.. Only chaos

Havik confirmed for Kombat Pack 2.

 

[Agnostic2020]

So State of Play reveal it is.

 

[DrDamn]

Damn! Am I the only one here in their 40's? I NEVER thought I'd be 'that old dude' playing games. Then again, I kind of got into them late...PS2 but got hooked. I'm going to get a PS5 regardless of all the drama around "power" because of exclusives. BUT, if there IS a big and noticeable power difference I MIGHT get both. I'm kind of doubting that will happen though. Time will tell!

Well into my 40s here. Time to play is the biggest problem for me, and those young 'uns cheating with their honed reflexes when I play online

I'll be going PS5 at launch and XSX a year after that. Only recently got an X1X and never went Pro on PS4, so that helps make my choices of what and when.

 

[welshrat]

Yup. 43 next month.

Been gaming my whole life and no letting up now (each generation just gets better and better, self diagnosed graphics whore)

Made my career programming mobile apps and web.

Its all wasted on the young uns

 

[Gavin Stevens]

Team 35 here, btw. And in a house of gamers, all of us. Walking through town the other day my three year old daughter smacked a poor kid down because he said “look mummy mario!”. My kid was right in telling them it was Luigi, actually.

She’s even on the right brother team. That’s my girl.

#LuigiAlwaysWins

 

[molly14]

Damn! Am I the only one here in their 40's? I NEVER thought I'd be 'that old dude' playing games. Then again, I kind of got into them late...PS2 but got hooked. I'm going to get a PS5 regardless of all the drama around "power" because of exclusives. BUT, if there IS a big and noticeable power difference I MIGHT get both. I'm kind of doubting that will happen though. Time will tell!

Nevermind 40s,am I the only one in their 50s (52) still gaming after 45 years and loving it still.

 

[Moses85]

Team 35 here, btw. And in a house of gamers, all of us. Walking through town the other day my three year old daughter smacked a poor kid down because he said “look mummy mario!”. My kid was right in telling them it was Luigi, actually.

She’s even on the right brother team. That’s my girl.

#LuigiAlwaysWins

Me too! Since today I was hoping for a personal birthday present by Sony. I give them a little bit more time.

 

[Mriverz]

Your daily pastebin/Reddit


$400 for a 10Tf i would call that a win

 

[Mriverz]

Disregard my last post. I didnt see the date

 

[VN1X]

Nevermind 40s,am I the only one in their 50s (52) still gaming after 45 years and loving it still.

How are you liking the new Xbox Adaptive Controller by Microsoft?

 

[SNPlayen]

Nevermind 40s,am I the only one in their 50s (52) still gaming after 45 years and loving it still.

Ok boomer /s

 

[Fenris Wolf]

Your daily pastebin/Reddit


$400 for a 10Tf i would call that a win

I don't know who made this or even if it is mentioned somewhere but it's not new. It's from that old pastebin post from around november-october 2018 (not sure exactly but i think this post was made before Sony announces their absence at E3 2019)

Spoiler

And it's currently deleted from that site. I think some of the details are kinda correct.

P.S: I think i read somewhere that the next BF will release 2021 if i'm not mistaking. Also based on recent rumors and leaks, Rockstar is working on GTA6. But again anyone can pull this stuff out of their ass.

 

[DrDamn]

Rockstar is working on GTA6. But again anyone can pull this stuff out of their ass.

Well that's definitely a new delivery mechanism ...

 

[John254]

Your daily pastebin/Reddit


$400 for a 10Tf i would call that a win

I just don't belive you can sell 10TF console, with 2TB of NVMe SSD for 399$ with loss 40-60$ per console

 

[MARTYWOLF]

Here ya go folks someone from SOCTRONICS linkedin (wont be posting there name) seen it here first SPARKMAN IS HAPPENING!!

At neogaf we find things unlike that other forum ahhaha i kid resetera

 

[SNPlayen]

So what’s the percentage chance of an announcement of an announcement tomorrow?

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

Your daily pastebin/Reddit


$400 for a 10Tf i would call that a win

Wow, amazing, 2TB 5400rpm HDD, so futuristic.

 

[VN1X]

So what’s the percentage chance of an announcement of an announcement tomorrow?

0%

 

[Mass Shift]

I found this Albert Penello post interesting from Resetera interesting. Someone asked himif it would be more cost effective to maximize a 36 cu chip or just design a new one.



if sony is trying to maximise oberon or they decided to scrap it summer of 2019 and make a new chip....well someone fucked up royally. Of course maybe oberon is sony’s lockhart. Or 1/2 of a dual set up. Or a rejected chip and they are scrambling to build a 13tf one. Or they had two design teams making two separate products, or, or, or....

Such a good mystery, cant wait to see how it turns out.

That would be a very very odd turn of events. A reworked or re-planned PS5 in 2019 definitely would run counter to all the rumors of the PS5 being more powerful than the Series X.

*More importantly it would absolutely put to bed all of the rumors about Navi being designed with Sony exclusively in mind.

 

[Reindeer]

Way too many 40 year olds here

 

[SNPlayen]

Way too many 40 year olds here

And all this time I was picturing the fanboys as 22 yr old neck beards

 

[TLZ]

How are you liking the new Xbox Adaptive Controller by Microsoft?

Sorry I know it sounds too nasty but I couldn't resist.

 

[BGs]

I fear PSVR2 will not be everything I'm dreaming it will be if they don't hit at least 11 TB.

But don't lose faith as soon.

I regret that this had to be one of my first messages, but I felt that your negativity has begun to be alarming.

Be patient. Think that, even if they announced the consoles tomorrow, they will not go out until the end of the year. At this rate you are going to run out of nails.

Sorry I do not extend. They are stressful days at work.

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[Reindeer]

And all this time I was picturing the fanboys as 22 yr old neck beards

40 is the new 22 and 22 is the new 12 . I guess we forgot that people age.

 

[it_wasn't_me]

Missed last 30 pages. So, any worthy news?

 

[Dargor]

Missed last 30 pages. So, any worthy news?

Yes!

Spoiler

no

 

[chemical boy]

Albert Penello puts dGPU Xbox One rumor to rest

www.neogaf.com

Albert Penello is a true liar, his opinion is worthless. Read what I was saying 6 years ago here at GAF about the power of Xbox One.

 

[MARTYWOLF]

Missed last 30 pages. So, any worthy news?

SPARKMAN is likely still in development if that counts for anything aha

 

[Mass Shift]

Albert Penello puts dGPU Xbox One rumor to rest

www.neogaf.com

Albert Penello is a true liar, his opinion is worthless. Read what I was saying 6 years ago here at GAF about the power of Xbox One.

Holy smokes! Alot of people got their butts banned back then. LOL. Proof that the reveals may make things worse, not better.

 

[Deleted member 775630]

Albert Penello puts dGPU Xbox One rumor to rest

www.neogaf.com

Albert Penello is a true liar, his opinion is worthless. Read what I was saying 6 years ago here at GAF about the power of Xbox One.

What was exactly a lie? The way he phrased it he was clearly in damage control, but I didn't really see a lie in his post.