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Next Photoshop to feature the "Enhance" button
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Devolution
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Ice Raven said:
I couldn't laugh harder at this shit.
Hey guys this enhance button means I can totally score that Adidas Contract! Fuck you well known design firms.
XiaNaphryz
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Uhhhh...the work we do, can't be done like you describe. And Photoshop is only one of our tools, never mind it was invented here.Ice Raven said:
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without a wacom. yesFernando Rocker said:
with a wacom. yes
the harder question is making 3 art directors happy.
that's the difficult part!
Devolution
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Ice Raven said:without a wacom. yes
with a wacom. yes
the harder question is making 3 art directors happy.
that's the difficult part!
Is your tag representative of your graphic design work?
starchild excalibur
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foodtaster said:
I didn't know we were only discussing ease of use. In terms of tool set and options (especially with the addition of plug-ins) After Effects is about the closest thing to a video version of Photoshop you can get right now.
Herpes Reasons
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lol. i wish that was far from the truth.Devolution said:
but art directors are up my ass with that kind of look.
but to answer your question, yes.
EDIT: ah, you mean the deviantart link. bah, i blame bish.
i never argued otherwise.XiaNaphryz said:
Treefingers
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Ice Raven I think I could take over your job then
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
You were saying Photoshop was the primary tool for graphic designers. I was just saying it's not always the case, depending on the field and/or work needing to be done.Ice Raven said:
Xal-Shoota
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I'm really surprised a designer is talking like this. I could see this coming from someone outside the industry, but you should know what DESIGNING means. Designing means your creating something with careful thought to create a message. Knowing how to de-blur a photo when your boss just tells you "hey can you De-blur this photo?" is just being a technician. While yeah, we designers have to wear many hats at times, technical work like that isn't what design is all about. So making that leap just isn't quite true.Ice Raven said:anecdotal. your argument does not negate my point. this is about market demand.
why would any random employer higher a GD for 40k if they can get someone else that can do the exact same job for fraction of the salary in an environment where photoshop is becoming easier and easier to use.
duh, of course you'll get a salary range in any market.
i do graphic design on the side. my primary job is concept artist. i make 50k/year fuck you very much.
EDIT: And yeah, I have a bunch of graphic friends who primarily use Illy. It just depends on the type of work.
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I think I see where your coming from now...if you had spent a fairly short amount of time with Illustrator, there's a 95% chance you would pick it over PS any day of the week. To each his own, but I would guess most people would definitely pick Illy for those kind of jobs 95% of the time too.Ice Raven said:without a wacom. yes
with a wacom. yes
the harder question is making 3 art directors happy.
that's the difficult part!
SilentProtagonist
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Devolution said:
sixteen-bit
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CSI/Blade Runner vindicated
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Xal-Shoota said:
I'm a bit weird because I'm more multi-media than a general graphic designer but in terms of print work, which is what they primarily do, I'm using Illustrator and InDesign far more than Photoshop. In fact the Graphic Designers in the department at my school usually have to hire photographers and get them to provide the .psds.
Usually works like this for me
Logo, labels, boxes and poster work = Illustrator
Multipage document like a book, magazine, brochure = inDesign.
Photoshop is used but only to edit and enhance images, then those .psds are placed in other programs.
Any sort of non-pixel/non-painterly/sketch work should be done in illustrator because vectors > bitmaps if you're creating shapes.
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the correct term is pixel pusher. just saying.Xal-Shoota said:
thank you! a veteran that understands! and your a monster for picking illustrator over PS. the only time i use Illy is for large scale printing or logos.Xal-Shoota said:
Xal-Shoota
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I'm actually the opposite of a veteran. I'm in my 5th (last) year of Digital Design school actually, but I have worked every other 3 months at various places for the last 2 years.Ice Raven said:
But wait, didn't you just say you would pick PS to recreate the Gatorade logo? That's what I was talking about earlier...
Herpes Reasons
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no, he/she asked me if i can draw the gatorade logo in photoshop.Xal-Shoota said:
i answered yes. but like i said, my preferred tool for logo design is illy.
The Technomancer
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Real CSI agents use "sharpen"
FunkyPajamas
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So, Corel, right guys?
guys?
eh?
guys?
eh?
Aquavelvaman
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Jeez that's awesome
Stupid arguments against Graphic Designers aside, why is this retarded reasoning even being put up against Graphic Designers. Shouldn't we really be saying that this will hurt photographers, since this makes taking good pictures much easier? Move a little during your pic, and it doesn't matter! You can just fix that in photoshop!
A lot of graphic designers just get photos from photographers and stock images and use those. How does being able to enhance photos hurt them at all? I realize a good designer should be able to take his own pictures and stuff, but even so, a lot of photo work will be done by a professional photographer. I mean I know I've done all my own photo work so far, but that's because I work for an abnormally small business, and I know that's not remotely true for the guys with the big clients and in the big companies.
Still a retarded argument, since it's only a tool and easier tools don't really make the profession easier when your job is actually to think and make creative decisions.
A lot of graphic designers just get photos from photographers and stock images and use those. How does being able to enhance photos hurt them at all? I realize a good designer should be able to take his own pictures and stuff, but even so, a lot of photo work will be done by a professional photographer. I mean I know I've done all my own photo work so far, but that's because I work for an abnormally small business, and I know that's not remotely true for the guys with the big clients and in the big companies.
Still a retarded argument, since it's only a tool and easier tools don't really make the profession easier when your job is actually to think and make creative decisions.
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Hazaro said:
They always say that when they do these sneak peeks. They said the same think about Content Aware Fill and it was in the next version. They just don't like to commit to anything.
Devolution
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RDreamer said:
And even then a photographer still has a better sense of lighting, cropping, contrast, angles, etc. I would say this is just more on par with sharpening some vacation photos because you couldn't keep steady.
Devolution said:
Right, it's still a herp derp sort of argument any way you slice it, but it feels even more herp derp since it's being directed at the wrong profession entirely. Only way this really connects to Graphic Design is if you do happen to be someone that takes your own photos (if you're freelancing or still small time ilk me) and you suck at it, or your client is stupid and has a photo that they absolutely insist you use despite it being blurry and terrible.
Doesn't really apply to really higher end salaried designers at all though.
It's a neat little tool, but I really doubt any good company's going to hire a designer or photographer or anyone that has to rely on something like this. Maybe it'll be a nice thing to use once in a while in a strange sort of circumstance, but yeah that's about it.
Devolution
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RDreamer said:
Yeah in my major we do because were forced to deal with all kinds of media outside print. But it's true, dude couldn't even angle the argument properly. The graphic design majors at my school outsource any sort of image work, they primarily work with type and print.
Aquavelvaman
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Maybe Google can use these algorithms all across the internet and just make every shitty jpeg out there look better over the course of a few months. Or more likely Amazon could do it since they're the ones hosting every image these days.
itwasTuesday
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that's cool I guess, can probably accomplish more night shooting with it.
and don't hate on after effects guys, after effects good people.
and don't hate on after effects guys, after effects good people.
ostrichKing
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Speaking as someone within the industry, this isn't going to hurt anyone...all this is, is a new tool...an awesome tool, but not a tool that will replace an industry or a single job.
It's always interesting to see what people's perspectives of other's jobs are...
It's always interesting to see what people's perspectives of other's jobs are...
Devolution said:
Yeah, when I was in school some designers were also decent illustrators and some were decent photographers, but an actual illustrator or photographer usually had them beat any day of the week. And that's fine, because that isn't necessarily your job as a designer. You work with layout and type. And a top level company is going to have the best person for the job doing each little area of the job. So they'll hire a pro photographer to come take those product shots, not expect some designer to be using photoshop's new enhance feature. That's just freakishly silly.
happyfunball
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DiscoJer said:
To hell with UFOs, this will crush the hearts of a thousand bigfoot hunters when the zippers become visible.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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I love seeing non-designers talk shit and then try and pick up Photoshop or Illustrator, fumble for days never even learning basic layer manipulation, and then if they try to layout a website, it ends up full of super-deep gradients, ostentatious drop shadows, and ridiculous bevels. Not to mention that it's going to be a terribly designed site anyway, with no concept of space, typography, leading the eye, or even a logical navigation structure.
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Ice Raven said:
Just because a tool is easier to use, doesn't mean the people using it become any more talented...I'm baffled that your posts seem to be serious...
EDIT: And just because this can do one thing, doesn't make the program any "easier to use"...Just like giving someone a better paint brush isn't going to suddenly make them a master painter...
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Now we are talking.Kahoona said:
blame space
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I want to be a graphic designer but not have to sell my soul to marketing shitty products that nobody needs.
Buckethead
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Will it still crash constantly?
Dreams-Visions
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.Foxix said:
I have a picture with Sophia Vergara that needs this badly.
opticalmace
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Good point. I only watched the first part of the video, but is the premise that they can estimate the movement and parameters of the point-spread function? Maybe they cherry picked photos which make it easy to determine a PSF... Also, do they have to babysit the program (with more parameters) when deconvolving?tokkun said:
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Buckethead said:
My favorite is when it just doesn't open at all anymore, which my InDesign CS5 decided to do over the weekend.
Buckethead
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No fun.Devolution said:
It's new favorite is crashing when I'm saving a file.
Lucky me!
Dreams-Visions
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preemptive, "lol no mac".Buckethead said:
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