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[lachesis]

Well since I am still to find a box of my own - and it's been more than a month since Xbox360's launch date - I'm getting better at waiting. I mean, I will get eventually when I can find one with ease.

Only thing is, since I've been hearing about somewhat debatable quality of PSU itself and all the overheating and occasional disc-scratching problems, - I think it's safe to say that it's not 100 percent reliable or safe for now to get one now, which is making my waiting a bit more tolerable. (Excuses, excuses, I know.) I mean, no console has been totally free of such problems - but I think the patience will eventually pay off if I do wait till the manufacturers actually do address such problems.

As for the life span of Xbox, I know there has been quite a few system revisions - like PS2. I'm just wondering when they'll start to produce more stable units. Any ideas?
(Although.. I'll probably get one as soon as I see one though. )

lachesis

 

[Rindain]

I'd like to know this too.

The question is, will Microsoft even announce when the updated models come out?

 

[Suikoguy]

None of the companies did last gen unless it was a cosmetic change, so don't expect it this generation. Some news sites i'm sure will post when new versions are appearing in stores.

 

[Hajaz]

theres been 6 revisions of xbox in what, 4 years?
so i guess youre looking at 6-8 months or so untill the first revision

 

[dorio]

Haven't had any problems with my unit. Maybe they have already revised it.

 

[Wario64]

Haven't had any problems with my unit. Maybe they have already revised it.

Well one way to find out...put your favorite X360 game in the console and move the console from horizontal to vertical while it's loading

 

[sirris]

If anything you'll see revisions being made cheaper (aka: less fans and heatsinks). Not nessesarily better. If you look at the PS2's revisions they eliminated more and more of the guts including the dust covers over the vents. You won't see the thing shrinking any time soon however. Don't get caught up in media hype about messed up systems. I have 10 friends all with launch 360s Including myself with not so much as a flutter.

 

[automagnus]

theres been 6 revisions of xbox in what, 4 years?
so i guess youre looking at 6-8 months or so untill the first revision

The ps2 had 14 major revisions.

 

[hyp]

Well one way to find out...put your favorite X360 game in the console and move the console from horizontal to vertical while it's loading

:lol

on a more serious note. i have an 11/22/05 launch unit. brought it to my hawaii vacation from california, hit it horizontal, vertical, and doggystyle. no problems at all.

overheating? wtf is that. i was in the 80+ degree humidity weather (which felt like 100 degrees) of hawaii and was playing 10+ hours straight with some folks over here. nothing, nada. no issues.

i'm lead to believe the problems are from a small minority of 360s with quality assurance issues. not new to a console launch.

 

[Jeff-DSA]

:lol

on a more serious note. i have an 11/22/05 launch unit. brought it to my hawaii vacation from california, hit it horizontal, vertical, and doggystyle. no problems at all.

overheating? wtf is that. i was in the 80+ degree humidity weather (which felt like 100 degrees) of hawaii and was playing 10+ hours straight with some folks over here. nothing, nada. no issues.

i'm lead to believe the problems are from a small minority of 360s with quality assurance issues. not new to a console launch.

You wasted over 10 hours in Hawaii playing videogames? I don't know if I respect your dedication to your hobby or question your sanity.

 

[StoOgE]

I have a launch unit.. No scratched disks, and have had it overheat/lockup twice. I then moved the PSU up off the floor and up it behind my TV on my entertainment center (there is a space between the back of my TV and the edge of the entertainment center)... have not had a problem since then.

The thing is, the system itself seems to run pretty cool to the touch. The PSU gets pretty hot, so it seems sitting the PSU on the floor/carpet would be a bigger issue than the system itself... and most people might be good about keeping the actual system in a smart location, and then just drop the PSU on the floor behind their TV, which I think is likely the cause of most of the problems.

Plus, if the PSU is the problem (which it seems to be) its likely they will come out with a new PSU and do a recall like the first Xbox..

 

[Jeff-DSA]

I have a launch unit.. No scratched disks, and have had it overheat/lockup twice. I then moved the PSU up off the floor and up it behind my TV on my entertainment center (there is a space between the back of my TV and the edge of the entertainment center)... have not had a problem since then.

The thing is, the system itself seems to run pretty cool to the touch. The PSU gets pretty hot, so it seems sitting the PSU on the floor/carpet would be a bigger issue than the system itself... and most people might be good about keeping the actual system in a smart location, and then just drop the PSU on the floor behind their TV, which I think is likely the cause of most of the problems.

Plus, if the PSU is the problem (which it seems to be) its likely they will come out with a new PSU and do a recall like the first Xbox..

My PSU is on the carpet, but it has some space around it. I haven't had any overheating issues, but I have had a scratched disc (grrrrrrrrrr) and a couple of lockups. But yeah, ventilation for the system and PSU is key to avoiding most problems.

 

[Norse]

The only time I have had a lockup so to speak is when losing connectivity to live. The game locked up but not the system...I could still access the blades an leave the game...it was playing bejeweled2 and not a retail dvd game.

My router was the problem..rebooted t and havent had issues since.

 

[THE DUCK]

It's safe....the vast majority of 360's are working fine. It's just as safe now as it will be in 6 months.

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

I haven't had any issues with mine outside of the lockups. That happens with the transistion from game back to dashboard, so that has to be software because only a few games do it.

 

[jedimike]

There's nothing wrong with the 360 hardware. The failure rates are within industry standards. The software is a seperate issue though. There has been weird glitches with a lot of games like PGR3, DOA4, and Arcade games like Hearts and Spades. Hexic has reportedly been hacked and XBL scoreboards were inadvertantly reset.

So there has been some growing pains, but at least the software can be fixed w/out having to buy a new unit.

 

[lachesis]

Well, thanks for assurances. As I said, I'll probably get one as soon as I see one - but I'm just hoping that they'll address certain issues with initial batches that some minor group of people have experienced, and with my luck, I could be one of them.

IIRC, Sony didn't take much time to update their PS2 when their launch unit was buggy due to the memorycard issue, and dvd driver for it was used to play foreign region DVDs. Heck, they've even recalled the whole units. They do address those problems as far as I know.

Perhaps the system revisions are not always good - as newer GCs are taken away with its digital AV port, and Newer PS2s do not have HDD bays etc - but mostly, I think they move towards cheaper, and more stable models. (Not counting PS2 to PSTWOs), which is a good thing. I do think MS's problem this time around is the power comsumption (which won't be solved that easily - as they'll have to refine their chipsets smaller with more success rate, which will take some time), but poorly made PSUs could be addressed right way, I mean. Bent cords being the problem is little... absurd I think.