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NFL 2011 Week 4 |OT| Sloptoberfest

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I desperately hope Thomas has a poor game this weekend. Not because I don't like the Fins or Thomas or anything, but because if he does I'm pretty sure I'll get him on the low in a trade in my FF next week.
 
TheLegendary said:
What a waste. Putting Nnamdi in so much zone should be a crime.
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Who are you to question the defensive coordinator of the Eagles? What gives you the right? Is it because you have almost as much experience as him being a defensive coordinator?

TheDrizzlerJ11 said:
What does it say about Pittsburgh when you turn on a game to see a few thousand people wearing a rapists name on their back?
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We are fans of the justice system and the Steelers!

I know you live in another country down there in Florida, but in America it is innocent until proven guilty.
 
yankeehater said:
The weird thing is he doesnt even seem good at it. He has been late reacting on a few passes already this year. He is a force in man to man coverage, they need to do that more.
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Same shit happens with Corey Webster. He stinks in zone but is awesome as a press corner. *Shrug*
 
yankeehater said:
The weird thing is he doesnt even seem good at it. He has been late reacting on a few passes already this year. He is a force in man to man coverage, they need to do that more.
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He's probably only played zone 10% of the time in his career. He's hands down the best bump and run guy out there right now in the league.
 
Milchjon said:
Why do you hate your team so much? And why do you even try to be a fan when you always end upt hating your team?
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But they do suck. Being hyper-critical is only a problem when you are wrong.

And of course "hate" is the wrong word. I think the coach, GM, and 2/3 of the roster shouldn't be employed at their present positions. But once they are gone I wish them all the happiness in life.

Except for Jason Smith. I actually do hate him
 
Jaws being the Eagles bitch he is. Showing his true colors:)

By the way, this is a quote from Kevin Gilbride:

"He has been slowed down a lot so right now he is still very much at the learning stage."
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Now try to guess who he's talking about? Ballard? Hynoski? Ballard is the new starter at TE and Hynoski is the rookie fullback. Surely it must be one of those two, right?

That statment is about Travis Beckum. The THIRD YEAR Tight End.
 
squicken said:
Yeah the Dolphins are quietly a top 5 joke franchise right now.
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Bengals, Jaguars, Indianapolis Peyton Mannings, Jets, Vikings.
Celebrity owners to try and boost attendance (is minor ownership there anything other than buying a luxury suite?)
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It's Miami. You got a problem with that?

Openly court a coach, miss out, then extend the incompetent coach you rightly tried to jettison
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Yup, shoulda let him go in January. Cant undermine the leader and then tell him to go lead. Terrible.

Overpay a skittish, prissy RB who is useless outside of punt returns, then try and fix that by putting in the only waiver claim on a guy who is useless in every scenario
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This isn't what's happening, what a dumb comment. Overpaid, useless, calling him all this after how many games? Calling him all this after you insult the coaching staff? Just talking shit about some1 because they can't defend themselves, not because they deserve it. Slaton is our fix? this is what you think? Based on all those games we've used him youre saying this? Transition in roles is going to take time, not saying I'm a Reggie believer yet but he hasn't had much of a chance as a fin.

Win-less against worst team in history of professional sports
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We beat the Jets just last year..
 
I would like to formally thank Charger fans for not attending this week's game so LA can get a real game, Pats vs Raiders.
 
Buckethead said:
Haha.

:jnc @ people picking ARI and STL.
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I picked the Giants to beat the Eagles last week, and I picked Arizona this week. Giants Cards seems like a total trap games. Giants coming off a huge win and then having to travel across the country. I would be surprised if the Giants win, since they are the better team, but I think the Cards will pull off the upset.
 
Buckethead said:
Both Schotty and Gildbride are McCarthy on 3rd down level morons.
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Gilbride isn't nearly as bad as Shotty Not even close. Despite how much Giants fans love to hate on him (including me at times). He can call a piss poor game (The Redskins game is a perfect example) and his pass happiness and red zone play calling will drive me insane at times - but then his offense can also be explosive.

If you look at some statistical evidence since 2008 (I'll start with the year after the SB win) with Gilbride at the helm. The Giants offense has been:

2008: #7 overall offense in the league (355.9 yds/gm), #1 Rushing Offense (157.4 yrds/game), #3 scoring offense (26.7 pts/gm)

2009: #8 overall offense in the league (366 yds/gm), #8 scoring offense (25.1 pts/gm)

2010: #5 overall offense in the league (380.3 yds/gm), #6 rushing offense (137.5 yds/gm), #7 scoring offense (24.6 pts/game)

Statistics don't tell the whole story. They never do. You have to take into account strength of schedule and all of that great stuff. Gilbride is far from perfect, but I'm sure most any "bad" team would give their arm and leg to have an offensive coordinator that has a scheme that keeps them consistently in the top 10 offensively.

He runs a complicated offense. A very timing based pass offense which doesn't make it easy to plug in receivers, etc. but it seems to work pretty well. His main problems are:

- If every run doesn't net 5-8 yards he's too quick to abandon it a lot of times. The Eagles game this past Sunday was GOOD Gilbride. We were getting 2-3 yard runs but he consistently stuck with it and kept the birds honest.
- He can be predictable as hell. Especially in the red zone. It can be really frustrating but at the same time - predictability doesn't mean shit in the NFL, IMO. It doesn't matter if the other team knows what's coming so much as whether you execute that play to perfection. They still have to stop you, afterall.

The comment about Beckum illustrates how much of a disappointment he's been thus far. Often injured and when he does play - he doesn't do much. He did put a nice block to seal the edge for Bradshaw on that one long run though. I'll give him that:).

yankeehater said:
I would be surprised if the Giants win, since they are the better team, but I think the Cards will pull off the upset.
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The traveling worries me more than the effort or "trap" game stuff. The Giants have played well in AZ in the past but Fitz has also traditionally had good games against us. In the past three he has something like 330yds and 1 TD. I still think we win this game. Kolb buckles like a bitch under pressure and he'll be getting plenty of that on Sunday.
 
ThisWreckage said:
Who got fleeced more? SF signing Gore or the Titans signing Chris Johnson?
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Titans, easily.

If we cut Gore after this season he will not be owed any extra money. His contract is entirely non-guaranteed.
 
Doomsayer said:
Titans, easily.

If we cut Gore after this season he will not be owed any extra money. His contract is entirely non-guaranteed.
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How much of a singing bonus did he get? I would think Gore would be the riskier signing since he had such a bad injury last year, and CJ is younger.
 
yankeehater said:
How much of a singing bonus did he get? I would think Gore would be the riskier signing since he had such a bad injury last year, and CJ is younger.
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I'm no number cruncher, so I'll shoot you an article that sums it up.

http://www.businessinsider.com/frank-gore-new-contract-49ers-2011-9

Frank Gore's agents announced yesterday that they had snagged the San Francisco running back a three-year contract extension worth about $21 million.

But as we've seen with many NFL contract lately, the truth is slightly less rosy that the headlines would want you to believe.

To begin, only $13.5 million of it is guaranteed money. Not bad for a 28-year-old running back, as most of the stories about the deal mentioned.

But NFL Network's Jason LaCanfora dug a little deeper and reminds us that "guaranteed money" isn't always so "guaranteed".

The guarantee for 2013-14 is an "injury" guarantee, not a "talent" guarantee. That means it only applies if Gore suffers a catastrophic injury and is unable to play. If his performance suffer and the Niners cut him, they're off the hook.

Also, the guarantee doesn't apply to the final year of the contract if he gets hurt before it begins.

Oh, and there's one other thing: $4.9 million of that $13.5 million total was money from Gore's existing 2011 contract, which they would have had to pay him anyway, with or without the extension. The contract adds nothing to his 2011 salary and provides no extra up-front money or signing bonuses.

So all Drew and Jason Rosenhaus really got him was $8.6 million spread over three years, and most of it guaranteed only if he's physically unable to play. If Gore simply wears down or becomes ineffective, the 49ers can cut him at almost any time and owe absolutely nothing. Even if they do end up paying the injury guarantees, the salary cap hit will be minimal.

Yes, if Gore is healthy and productive, he can earn all $21 million ($13.5 million in salary, plus another $7.5 million in performance and roster bonuses), which is great for him and the 49ers. Gore has stated that he hopes to finish his career with the team that drafted him in 2005 and technically this gives him the opportunity to do so.

But the commitment (and $21 million paycheck) is entirely dependent upon Gore and his ability to be an effective NFL runner for another four years. If he's not, it's no skin off the Niners' back. The risk for San Francisco with this deal is almost non-existent.

As we've seen with the Michael Vick deal and plenty of other big money contracts, the numbers are never what they seem. (Unlike Gore, Vick can't even reach his advertised selling price of $100M.)

But trying telling that to the agent who wants to brag about the big money they earn for their clients.
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Wow, that has to be the worst contract ever. Why the fuck would be sign that? He would have been way better off playing out the year and hoping he stayed healhty. That looks more like an insurance policy then a contract.
 
Yeah, he really got fucked. I think it was because he wants to end his career in SF and he knows that he probably won't be healthy for a full season again. Hell, he's only been healthy for one full season and its all been downhill since then. Plus he's coming off of a hip fracture and now has a bum ankle. He knows the end of the road is near.
 
Doomsayer said:
Titans, easily.

If we cut Gore after this season he will not be owed any extra money. His contract is entirely non-guaranteed.
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I don't think it's that cut and dry. At least Johnson plays. Gore always seems to be injured. However, everyone is saying Johnson is having a shitty year because he missed training camp and I don't buy that for one second.
 
yankeehater said:
Has Gore ever played in a playoff game? It would be kinda sad if he never gets to.
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Sadly, no.

I hope we can get him in this year. 6-10 Division Chumps!

ThisWreckage said:
I don't think it's that cut and dry. At least Johnson plays. Gore always seems to be injured. However, everyone is saying Johnson is having a shitty year because he missed training camp and I don't buy that for one second.
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Well, to be fair; DeAngelo Williams, Gore, and Johnson all look like shit and signed extensions in the off season. Hopefully they pick their game up. This new passing NFL isn't doing it for me.
 
Futurevoid said:
Gilbride isn't nearly as bad as Shotty Not even close.
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No doubt.

I think Plax made him look good to be honest. You could argue that he hasn't had the best personnel but that's a stretch there has been some pretty good WR talent.
And regardless of stats when you need a good call from him for a big down he typically calls the dumbest thing possible.
 
Buckethead said:
And regardless of stats when you need a good call from him for a big down he typically calls the dumbest thing possible.
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Eh, depends...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWtXPsjbk-A

That's just a beautiful call exposing a big fat weakness on the defense.

Other times you'll get the stretch play with Jacobs on 4th and 1 and I'll want to fly through the TV screen and strangle him. There's plenty of occasions where he earns the "Killdrive" moniker for sure.
 
Brian Orakpo
"To me they blown it way out of proportion," the linebacker said on ESPN 980's John Thompson Show on Tuesday, via DC Sports Bog. "I mean, they tried to make it seem like the guy was hospitalized the night before the game, just so we could build it up if they was to win the game - oh he's a courageous player to go out there and play. The guy was playing just like Tony Romo, running around, making throws. He got hit throughout the whole game and still getting up. I mean, it was blown way out of proportion, but it is what it is."
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that whole team are bunch salty bitches my god
 
Doomsayer said:
Yeah, he really got fucked. I think it was because he wants to end his career in SF and he knows that he probably won't be healthy for a full season again. Hell, he's only been healthy for one full season and its all been downhill since then. Plus he's coming off of a hip fracture and now has a bum ankle. He knows the end of the road is near.
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Doomsayer, I like you as a fellow 49ers fan, but every time I see your avatar I have to do a double take because I think I see the Tron Guy and it makes me laugh.

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yankeehater said:
I picked the Giants to beat the Eagles last week, and I picked Arizona this week.
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Potentially because the Giants' secondary is awful and Arizona has OPI Fitzgerald.

The rest of the Cardinals however, are terrible.
 
I am not saying the Cards are good or anything, but they have been in every game so far. If not for their D fucking up they would have beat the Skins in Washington.
 
yankeehater said:
I am not saying the Cards are good or anything, but they have been in every game so far. If not for their D fucking up they would have beat the Skins in Washington.
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Didn't they just lose to the Seahawks who only scored 13 on them? That doesn't seem like the D shit the bed on that one.
 
meljeff said:
Doomsayer, I like you as a fellow 49ers fan, but every time I see your avatar I have to do a double take because I think I see the Tron Guy and it makes me laugh.
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That sucks. I like this avatar, too. Haha.

Maybe I'll bust out my Crabtree floating head.
 
from espn superblogger Mike Sando:

2011 Alex Smith vs. the Rush
Number of rushers NFL rating Total QBR
Four or fewer 81.2 43.7
Five or more 115.0 80.1
1+ DBs 158.3 100.0
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So Alex has actually been amazing versus the blitz, but subpar against a front four rush, and he has taking many bad sacks he should have avoided. If he reads blitz and it comes, he does well. It seems like if you just beat the niners crap OLine with a four man then he isn't ready.
 
All of y'all need to have team specific avatars. I'm getting Niner fans mixed up with Patriot fans and what the heck ever.
 
Drakeon said:
Didn't they just lose to the Seahawks who only scored 13 on them? That doesn't seem like the D shit the bed on that one.
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Yeah last week their offense was horrible. But the week before it played well enough to win. I think their D looked okay last week because the Seahawks O is beyond terrible.




etiolate said:
from espn superblogger Mike Sando:




So Alex has actually been amazing versus the blitz, but subpar against a front four rush, and he has taking many bad sacks he should have avoided. If he reads blitz and it comes, he does well. It seems like if you just beat the niners crap OLine with a four man then he isn't ready.
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That is great news. It is time for the wide 9 to actually pay off.
 
The first winning September of the Norv Turner era has not inspired Chargers fans to suddenly start buying tickets.

The Chargers announced that Sunday’s game against the Dolphins will not be televised in the San Diego market. More than 6,500 tickets remain available.

Los Angeles football fans may be happy about the development. They get to watch the far more intriguing Raiders-Patriots matchup instead now.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/29/chargers-dolphins-blacked-out-in-san-diego/




Oakland will have back-to-back sellouts for the first time since 2008:


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/29/back-to-back-sellouts-in-the-black-hole/
 
etiolate said:
from espn superblogger Mike Sando:




So Alex has actually been amazing versus the blitz, but subpar against a front four rush, and he has taking many bad sacks he should have avoided. If he reads blitz and it comes, he does well. It seems like if you just beat the niners crap OLine with a four man then he isn't ready.
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And that is exactly what lions do best.

BTW, how do people feel about Harbaugh?
 
beast786 said:
And that is exactly what lions do best.

BTW, how do people feel about Harbaugh?
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I like what I've seen so far, minus not taking that penalty in the Dallas game. Too early to tell though.
 
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