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NFL Week 9 2010|OT| - Did we step into a time warp?

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Nelo Ice said:
the refs this season have reached nba levels of bad =(
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Nah, refereeing has reached a new level of hilarity in all sports. (Except maybe Hockey, I don't watch enough to form an opinion about NHL refs.)
 
Nelo Ice said:
the refs this season have reached nba levels of bad =(
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Almost. Let's not get crazy. :P

So wait, since when can Ref's go back and change the ruling of a previous play and make it 1st and 11 instead of 4th and 11? Since when can they just nullify a complete play like that?
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Making shit up as they go along. The snapping of the ball should have killed the chance of that. And if they did change it, it should have been 2nd and 11.
 
Dirtbag said:
WTF Refs :lol

That's the worst I've EVER seen. And that's coming from a SEC fan
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SEC refs are NBA-level good. They can intentionally change the outcome of a game, and make you think it was incompetence.

OTOH, NFL refs are just bad.
 
Rorschach said:
Almost. Let's not get crazy. :P

Making shit up as they go along. The snapping of the ball should have killed the chance of that. And if they did change it, it should have been 2nd and 11.
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Thats exactly what I thought. I mean don't get me wrong, the refs fucked up the call the first time, but that doesn't mean they can go back and change the call after the balls been snapped.
 
Drakeon said:
So wait, since when can Ref's go back and change the ruling of a previous play and make it 1st and 11 instead of 4th and 11? Since when can they just nullify a complete play like that?
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Because the Chiefs were over the marker when he went down. It was never supposed to be 4th and anything. It was supposed to be 1st.
 
Bullshit. His knee hit, but it was out of bounds. Oh well. Game over.

Drakeon said:
Thats exactly what I thought. I mean don't get me wrong, the refs fucked up the call the first time, but that doesn't mean they can go back and change the call after the balls been snapped.
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Correct.
 
Two timeouts in two plays. Good ol' Andy Reid.

:lol Eagles D just had to turn around for an int, instead an easy PI call.
 
UltimaPooh said:
Because the Chiefs were over the marker when he went down. It was never supposed to be 4th and anything. It was supposed to be 1st.
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I'm aware, but big fucking deal, they already snapped the ball, end of story. Now Raiders got screwed out of 1 challenge and Cable pissed away the other one.
 
Raiders already out of challenges. :lol

...which is completely understandable, considering how bad these refs are. I expect fictional rules to be enforced over the course of this game.
 
Drakeon said:
So wait, since when can Ref's go back and change the ruling of a previous play and make it 1st and 11 instead of 4th and 11? Since when can they just nullify a complete play like that?
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The Chiefs player caught the ball passed the first down marker, making it a first down. Even though the refs thought it was 4th, it was still first. A holding penalty is a loss of 10 yds and replay the down, thus making it 1st and goal from the 11.

They didn't nullify the play. If they did, it would have been 1st and goal from the 1.
 
linkboy said:
The Chiefs player caught the ball passed the first down marker, making it a first down. Even though the refs thought it was 4th, it was still first. A holding penalty is a loss of 10 yds and replay the down, thus making it 1st and goal from the 11.

They didn't nullify the play. If they did, it would have been 1st and goal from the 1.
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They snapped the ball and had another play AFTER and then they went back and changed the ruling of that play they had reviewed. They should not be able to do that, the ball had been snapped again. They can't go back a play and change it and then nullify that 4th and 1, even though it should have been 1st and 1. Then they go ahead and make it 1st and 11 (a holding call on a play that was completely nullfied makes not sense either, btw).
 
Drakeon said:
I'm aware, but big fucking deal, they already snapped the ball, end of story. Now Raiders got screwed out of 1 challenge and Cable pissed away the other one.
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The play was originally called a TD, Cable challenged to overturn the TD. Since the challenge was overturned, the player was down at the 1. It was a first down, thus making it first and goal on the one (the refs forgot where the marker was, but its still first down).

The next play, Cassell bootlegs it to the corner and the holding penalty occurs. Since holding is a 10yd loss and replay the down, the next play is 1st and goal from the 11.
 
Drakeon said:
They snapped the ball and had another play AFTER and then they went back and changed the ruling of that play they had reviewed. They should not be able to do that, the ball had been snapped again. They can't go back a play and change it and then nullify that 4th and 1, even though it should have been 1st and 1. Then they go ahead and make it 1st and 11 (a holding call on a play that was completely nullfied makes not sense either, btw).
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The challenge was before the Cassell bootleg, not after. They corrected what down it was after.
 
I hate fans that wear stupid team colored Rey Mysterio masks. Probably just because I hate Rey Mysterio.
 
linkboy said:
The play was originally called a TD, Cable challenged to overturn the TD. Since the challenge was overturned, the player was down at the 1. It was a first down, thus making it first and goal on the one (the refs forgot where the marker was, but its still first down).

The next play, Cassell bootlegs it to the corner and the holding penalty occurs. Since holding is a 10yd loss and replay the down, the next play is 1st and goal from the 11.
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It was not a first down, it was ruled a fourth down and they RAN a play trying to get in from the 1. Then Todd Haley through a shit fit and got them to review the play to change it to a first down when they had already ran a play after they had declared it 4th and 1, therefore, it shouldn't matter. It should've been 4th and 11. I don't know how to make it any clearer, the Raiders got fucking screwed on that (to be fair, the Chiefs almost got screwed too... Refs are just extremely bad in this game)
 
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