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NGSB (No Girlfriend Since Birth)

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Gurthang said:
Its not really about standards or anything.

There are tons of Alpha males that are not willing to settle down. These men only care about raising their sexual partners count and will have sex with any average looking girl that shows any slight interest in them.

If a girl can be with an alpha guy, even for a week, then why on earth would she have to settle down for less? That's the reality. Its simple as that. You can blame it on confidence or whatever everyone else tells you. But its not the truth. The truth is there are alpha males who have lots of sexual partners and they are the reason you don't have a girlfriend.
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Bruh I got standards, would be considered an alpha male, have a high number of sexual partners but wouldn't lower my standards in order to achieve an even higher number. The reality is for some people it's not that difficult, infact it's incredibly easy to connect with the opposite sex/same sex.
 
Gurthang said:
Its not really about standards or anything.

There are tons of Alpha males that are not willing to settle down. These men only care about raising their sexual partners count and will have sex with any average looking girl that shows any slight interest in them.

If a girl can be with an alpha guy, even for a week, then why on earth would she have to settle down for less? That's the reality. Its simple as that. You can blame it on confidence or whatever everyone else tells you. But its not the truth. The truth is there are alpha males who have lots of sexual partners and they are the reason you don't have a girlfriend.
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Wat

No it's not

You've got to be kidding. He's kidding. Oh, OK. He's kidding, right?
 
I know I'm breaking code here by talking about it but there is a good book (it being helpful depends on the reader) called the Mystery Method. I'm not the biggest fan of the author but he does have some really good points.

You don't have to follow his pointers word by word, just use it as a guideline.
 
Kaizer said:
I'm in the same situation OP, currently 24, will turn 25 next March and have never had a girlfriend.
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Which day in March? We're the same age

Kaizer said:
I'm no longer wallowing in a pity party - I haven't been happy with my appearance in years & I've finally decided to make a permanent change about it.

Started by drastically cutting down the amount of porn I watch so I don't always wake up so tired in the morning. Also I've been hitting the gym pretty consistently (4 to 5 days out of the week) & watching my diet for the past 3 weeks. I feel SUPER TIRED lol, but I'm also happy with the fact that I feel like I'm starting to gain a little more confidence in myself. Gonna be finding a job around here pretty soon, which will force me to be more social with a lot people and I'm looking forward to growing as individual.
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Cheers, man. Those are some awesome steps. I'm actually following the exact opposite trajectory lol. (I need to start working out again. Caught my wife's eye with nothin but abs and I'm starting to let her down...)
 
inked_illusion said:
I know I'm breaking code here by talking about it but there is a good book (it being helpful depends on the reader) called the Mystery Method. I'm not the biggest fan of the author but he does have some really good points.

You don't have to follow his pointers word by word, just use it as a guideline.
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Wait, are you freenudemacusers alt?
 
inked_illusion said:
I know I'm breaking code here by talking about it but there is a good book (it being helpful depends on the reader) called the Mystery Method. I'm not the biggest fan of the author but he does have some really good points.

You don't have to follow his pointers word by word, just use it as a guideline.
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OP NO
 
inked_illusion said:
Am I suppose to know that account. No, a friend of mine just gave me a pdf of it and gave it a read... it's honestly too much but the author's reasoning have some sense to them.
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He's a big proponent of pick up artistry, oddly enough he's also a 40 year old virgin although that may just be a coincidence.
 
I speak with no hesitation to say that your mom pointing this out in that way is a terrible thing.

It also makes me think she's responsible in some major way for your status.
 
inked_illusion said:
So tomorrow's my birthday and as always, my mom posts her usual birthday greetings on her Facebook account. Sure enough, she jokes about me having no girlfriend since birth (which I didn't know 'til googling it). I know it's a joke but it did sting a little bit or maybe my mom's giving me a hint.

I'll take the L, but for now I'll celebrate tomorrow like any other day.

I don't even know why I made this thread, just doing something I guess.

GAF, what say you?

Edit: My mom just replied back that it meant "Nicest Good Son & Brother"
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the last person you should ever feel that sort of pressure from is your mom or dad. That's unfair. If you meet someone and you're ready it'll happen. There isn't any timetable for love or compatibility. And if it never happens that's fine too, there's nothing worse than hooking up with someone you end up hating and regretting everything you ever did with them.
 
LyleLanley said:
He's a big proponent of pick up artistry, oddly enough he's also a 40 year old virgin although that may just be a coincidence.
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Ah I see, honestly it's too much work for little pay off. Probably the best time I had was with a coworker and his chick friends. I was super hungry and instead had a drink (I was lightweight) and boy did that make the night that much better. I kinda had no shame so I mostly danced like a dumbass but made a good impression on his friends.
 
inked_illusion said:
Am I suppose to know that account. No, a friend of mine just gave me a pdf of it and gave it a read... it's honestly too much but the author's reasoning have some sense to them.
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I'm gonna quote myself:

Not said:
The whole concept of following specific steps to artificially alter your personal behavior and thereby tricking other humans into liking you is kinda repulsive to me. You reach the point of objectification and dehumanization towards the people in the group you're attracted to really quickly.
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Kaizer said:
March 8th to exact, my mom always says I was like an early birthday present for her since she was born on March 20th.
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That's sweet. You are 21 days older than moi
 
Boem said:
I do think that feeling is normal. I've had that feeling. I'm not saying anyone needs to go out tonight and find their one true love - stuff like that needs time. My comments were aimed more at those who never/rarely actually try/have given up. As sappy as it sounds, I just honestly believe there are multiple possible someone's out there for everyone. It's not like women are a different species, they're only human and come in just as many different personalities as us. Finding the right one can take time, sure, but I hope you won't give up forever just because you've been turned down. It hurts, but it happens to everyone.

Also, nothing wrong with devoting more time to yourself with work/studies right now. Just as important.



I don't believe anybody is 'not cut out for it'. I felt like that, and I'm really not some sort of modern casanova or anything. I'm a skinny white guy who likes reading and nerdy, boozy conversations about nothing with friends. I'm not trying to paint myself as some beach hunk with great abs or anything. And, as soon as I realized that I was done being by myself and put some effort in putting myself out there, I realized that there were plenty of girls willing to hang out, have a great time, and in some cases develop something (although I'm out of the dating game now, living together with my almost 3-year girlfriend now).

I know it's hard to take those first steps, but don't think of it as 'fighting' or 'wasting time'. Don't see a date as a possible first step to sex/a wedding. Just think of it as getting to know someone and having some fun conversations, and just see what happens after that. I know rejection can hurt, badly, but if you're going to ignore that completely and focus entirely on video games/tv shows/whatever - that kind of happiness just doesn't last.

Again, some people are apparently happier alone. That's totally fine. Nobody needs a girlfriend, but I do think that anybody can have a girlfriend. No matter how undateable they might think they are (and I used to be extremely undateable).

Even if it means you need to work on yourself a little bit (not change who you are, just making yourself slightly more presentable/comfortable/happy with yourself), I'd say it's worth it.
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I understand where you're coming from but I have always been considered to be a great "friend" when it comes to the opposite sex (at least I used to be a decade ago). Thus as far as "fun conversations" go, I don't think I am quite lacking in that department.

Furthermore, there are only so many hours in a day and I am not even an occasional gambler; i.e., I perceive the pursuit of relationship via dates just that (from my previous limited experience). In my life when I put effort into something, I expect it to produce favourable result. However, human relationship involving potential intimacy and two people don't work that way and looking at it from an investment POV (a costly mistake that taught me valuable life lesson) and consequently expecting ROI is disservice to both parties the idea of relationship.

For me, relationship is what I consign to the "to be jealous" and "for other people only" categories. At 29, I am certain that it's not for me and given one can truly never miss what one never experienced/possessed, I have begrudgingly and finally moved on to other things/experiences that encompass more than tv and vg.

Also, my height has been a large contributing factor in my decision.
 
There's no shame in being single. Unless you think it sucks. In which case you should do something about it.
 
We really gotta do something about the stigma around short men, too. It shouldn't be used as an end-all excuse for not being in a relationship, but it certainly removes you from some people's crosshairs.
 
Gurthang said:
Its not really about standards or anything.

There are tons of Alpha males that are not willing to settle down. These men only care about raising their sexual partners count and will have sex with any average looking girl that shows any slight interest in them.

If a girl can be with an alpha guy, even for a week, then why on earth would she have to settle down for less? That's the reality. Its simple as that. You can blame it on confidence or whatever everyone else tells you. But its not the truth. The truth is there are alpha males who have lots of sexual partners and they are the reason you don't have a girlfriend.
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dude

Many women see all kinds non alpha males as totally datable, even sexy as fuck, as it includes a broad spectrum of men. What I can guarantee is that 99% of women will reject melancholy men who feel entitled to make bitter proclamations based off sexist generalizations.
 
My sister was like this (well NBSB version) until she was 24. What helped was moving to a city with a lot of single people, being realistic about her standards and not expecting guys to meet a laundry list of expectations, and consistently putting herself out there romantically/sexually (offline and online) even if she wasn't always successful, and just trying new experiences unrelated to dating but that involved meeting new people.
 
Will I be a wizard in two years if i had bjs, fingered a gf multiple times, and licked a vagina? Technically I will won't I? Damn it.
 
HotHamBoy said:
You don't need to be in shape to get a GF, you just need an outgoing and charismatic personality and the confidence to put yourself out there.
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There actually is no secret. I mean, besides resisting the urge to feel sorry for yourself.
 
GraveRobberX said:
By the way I'm 36, never had a date or kisses a girl...

Some people are here to suffer through life alone
Thank fuck I was born in the technology era

At least video games, tech give me reason to live on, no joke...
Just to see what the future brings

If any other era, I'd be 6 feet under way long ago...
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Don't take this the wrong way, but it's the technology and escapism that allows people to become so introverted and isolated instead of dealing with their relationships (or lack there of) head on.

I used to be like a lot of you guys. Never dated in highschool, never thought I would get laid. I was a sad, sorry sack. Not really a looker, nerdy, fat. Those things are still true, but I forced myself to get out there, get comfortable with myself, talk to women, be funny.

I'm 31 now and have had multiple girlfriends, two of which I was engaged to, one of which I married and divorced! You can get divorced, too!

inked_illusion said:
Am I sensing some hostility?
I do me, you do you. Thanks for your advice though.
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He's right, though. That's fine if you wanna "do you" but don't be surprised when it's not working out.
 
As long as you still go out and hook up every now and then I guess it's fine, I mean, I've probably only been in 2 serious relationships if I had to be honest, and I'm 25.
 
If it's any consolation, I've had enough girlfriends for those posters in this thread that haven't. I'll humbly continue making this sacrifice and bear this burden for all of ya'll.
 
lightskintwin said:
Nah bro. Plenty of fishies in the sea. Don't hate the fisherman, hate the fish game.
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True but in this game number of fishes is equal to the number of fishermen. So those with plenty of fishes cause other fishermen to not have any fishes at all.

But that's just life.
 
lightskintwin said:
If it's any consolation, I've had enough girlfriends for those posters in this thread that haven't. I'll humbly continue making this sacrifice and bear this burden for all of ya'll.
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Gurthang said:
Nice job bro. Make sure these losers don't get any girls in their lifetime.
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This is not going to go well

Lightskintwin, the goal is to make these people stop feeling bad about themselves and resenting women and men who are in relationships. That's not helping.

Gurthang, women are 52% of the population. Your argument makes no sense.
 
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