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DY_nasty said:
Huh?

This ain't your dad's internet.

And your whole championing of nerds is hypocritical as fuck because you couldn't go 3 posts without calling me a douche because I wouldn't "reach out and help them" lol
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What the fuck? I never said you should help them. I said laugh at them if you want, just be honest about it.

Brush up on your reading comprehension skills.
 
TUROK said:
Because it's a dating site, a magnet to those who are socially inept?

You know, this would have been easier if Devo had just said, "yeah, we're picking on them, so what?" Of course, it can never be that simple.
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So it's not about "judging" them, it's about you wanting to feel morally superior. Okay. Keep going, keep talking.

I'm quietly judging you.
 
Friendzone is a sexist concept. At least as far as I can tell.

It can't help but evoke creepy dudes who are friends with women only to get close enough to tr and trick them into sex.
 
DY_nasty said:
Huh?

This ain't your dad's internet.

And your whole championing of nerds is hypocritical as fuck because you couldn't go 3 posts without calling me a douche because I wouldn't "reach out and help them" lol
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I help people in the OKC thread so this whole conversation is pretty hilarious.
 
TUROK said:
What the fuck? I never said you should help them. I said laugh at them if you want, just be honest about it.

Brush up on your reading comprehension skills.
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I WAS being honest about it.

motherfucking lulz are being had all through this thread and they're plain and right out in the open. Then you wan to say "Go for it, just don't pretend you're only doing these guys a favor." and I'm like what in the fuck are you on and how mad are you? hahaha

so stop making me fun of me
 
IAmtheFMan said:
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Aside from the several glaring flaws hitting you over the head in this one, (the procreation thing just fills my head full of fuck) I don't get why they're highlighting the abortion issue. The question is asking that if you were personally in a position where you're having an unexpected child, would you abort it, not "is abortion right?" Sure, others may disagree and choose to abort but that shouldn't be a bullet point in the whole "he says he's a nice guy but he's actually a dick!" column.
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I don't completely agree with that. Even though I'd have a hard time with an abortion if I'd get my girl pregnant, it's an issue that you've got to work out with the girl herself, so it's always an option imo.

But I do agree that using that answer to show someone is a dick is stupid.
 
DY_nasty said:
I WAS being honest about it.

motherfucking lulz are being had all through this thread and they're plain and right out in the open. Then you wan to say "Go for it, just don't pretend you're only doing these guys a favor." and I'm like what in the fuck are you on and how mad are you? hahaha

so stop making me fun of me
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i think the frustration most people have with this thread is that the people making fun of others are the same people in many cases who will cry offense when people say things they don't like.

they speak uninhibited about how lame these dudes are, but expect these dudes to inhibit themselves from saying things like, 'women should shave their legs.'
 
OttomanScribe said:
Turok, I'm right to mock men that say things like 'no is just a yes in disguise' yeah?
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when you get into the business of criticising others, don't be surpried when people start criticsing you.

'right' implies you're contributing or helping in some way. you may be shaming views you find to be repugnant, but there's probably a better way than mocking some socially stunted loser behind his back.

and for the nth time, i care very little about the mocking, just annyoed by the hypocrisy.
 
BobbyRobby said:
when you get into the business of criticising others, don't be surpried when people start criticsing you.

'right' implies you're contributing or helping in some way. you may be shaming views you find to be repugnant, but there's probably a better way than mocking some socially stunted loser behind his back.

and for the nth time, i care very little about the mocking, just annyoed by the hypocrisy.
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LOL, right implies what? the hypocrisy? Hahahahahahahha, keep talking please. My entertainment for the night depends on it.
 
BobbyRobby said:
when you get into the business of criticising others, don't be surpried when people start criticsing you.

'right' implies you're contributing or helping in some way. you may be shaming views you find to be repugnant, but there's probably a better way than mocking some socially stunted loser behind his back.

and for the nth time, i care very little about the mocking, just annyoed by the hypocrisy.
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There are socially stunted people who don't act this way. You pretty much insult them by lumping them in with these dudes.
 
timedog said:
LOL, right implies what? the hypocrisy? Hahahahahahahha, keep talking please. My entertainment for the night depends on it.
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alright dude, but it's a two-way street. you have to say things that are worth responding to.

Devolution said:
There are socially stunted people who don't act this way. You pretty much insult them by lumping them in with these dudes.
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i didn't say that all socially stunted people acted this way, nor did i suggest that. no lumping took place.

do you disagree that most of the people featured in this thread seem socially inept?
 
BobbyRobby said:
when you get into the business of criticising others, don't be surpried when people start criticsing you.

'right' implies you're contributing or helping in some way. you may be shaming views you find to be repugnant, but there's probably a better way than mocking some socially stunted loser behind his back.

and for the nth time, i care very little about the mocking, just annyoed by the hypocrisy.
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So I get the socially stunted thing. Some people are awkward.

However, 'socially stunted' and 'someone who has problematic ideas about consent'/'are into racism and eugenics' are two distinct things.

If I'm being racist or sexist or whatever, and people want to criticise me for it, then good! If it stops me being those things, then I am better for it. In this case, we have a Tumblr that addresses a number of cogent points. The link between people who talk about 'being friendzoned' and sexism for example... the link between fedoras and problematic ideas about women... the way that 'nice guy' is thrown around by men who apparently aren't aware that being 'nice' should be a given, and does not automatically qualify them to deserve a woman's attention etc. etc. humour is sometimes a good way to get at truth. I do feel bad for these dudes, especially because this will lead them to probably become more cemented in their convictions... then again I don't feel bad for them for the aforementioned reasons.

What hypocrisy are you talking about? Be specific and outline what I am doing that is hypocritical. Show me some contradictions in my thoughts. Make an argument.
 
BobbyRobby said:
you'd have more of a point if they were present and able to receive your criticism.

seems weak to take a moral high ground behind someone's back.
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So do you talk like this in every thread where someone takes the moral high ground behind someone's back (which is a large percentage of GAF threads)? Or did this thread just hit a weak point for massive damage? X0
 
timedog said:
So do you talk like this in every thread where someone takes the moral high ground behind someone's back (which is a large percentage of GAF threads)? Or did this thread just hit a weak point for massive damage? X0
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you are suggesting that i am a ugly loser that cannot have sex with girls because i have been friend-zoned.

OttomanScribe said:
So I get the socially stunted thing. Some people are awkward.

However, socially stunted and problematic ideas about consent are two distinct things.

If I'm being racist or sexist or whatever, and people want to criticise me for it, then good! If it stops me being those things, then I am better for it.

What hypocrisy are you talking about? Be specific and outline what I am doing that is hypocritical. Show me some contradictions in my thoughts. Make an argument.
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i would prefer that if someone had a problem with something i said that they confront me about it directly. that way, i could receive the criticism and become enlightened, or state my rebuttal if for some reason i have been misunderstood.

am i right in assuming you would prefer the same?

i think it's very admirable that you welcome criticism, but don't see how making a tumblr and posting something you said without your knowledge would be conducive to that end.

what are the chances you'd even see it? and what are the chances that it would enlighten you if you did?

you find the views they are espousing morally wrong. as a general rule, i find talking about people behind their back to be morally questionable.

if you want to complain to complain about people saying mean things, you shouldn't employ a mean means.
 
BobbyRobby said:
you are suggesting that i am a ugly loser that cannot have sex with girls because i have been friend-zoned.
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So do you talk like this in every thread where someone takes the moral high ground behind someone's back (which is a large percentage of GAF threads)? Or did this thread just hit a weak point for massive damage? X0
 
BobbyRobby said:
you are suggesting that i am a ugly loser that cannot have sex with girls because i have been friend-zoned.
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If you're someone who whines and complains about being friendzoned maybe you should take a long look at yourself. We're not really implying anything unless you really believe that it's the fault of every woman you've encountered.
 
BobbyRobby said:
i would prefer that if someone had a problem with something i said that they confront me about it directly. that way, i could receive the criticism and become enlightened, or state my rebuttal if for some reason i have been misunderstood.


am i right in assuming you would prefer the same?
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Moving beyond the fact that the first paragraph seems to imply that the tumblr is about you. The question is an interesting one, the impression I got from the tumblr was more about social trends and prevalent ideas than it was problematic individuals. As a poster above points out, were it to be about that, the contact details of the people in question could be given out.

If I formed part of a trend of misogyny and racism, then I would see no wrong in being labelled as such. If I am putting myself out there in a public forum with such views (I have no problem putting my own face to my posts here for example, see that guy to the left of my post, that is me) then I should be capable of dealing with the consequences when the response is within reason. If, in some GAF meta thread, someone took a bunch of my posts and, say, got me to argue with myself, then I might be a little hurt, but it would be only my pride. I would be wrong to respond to it with offence, simply because I should not get upset about my own views, my own inconsistencies. If you feel that I am a hypocrite, you are welcome to take my photo and do exactly that. Even make a OS tumblr if you want :P

As the tumblr does not post pictures of these men with captions that imply any more than what they have said themselves, I don't see the problem with it. These pictures are accompanied with their real opinions, if it were 'I like to murder people' on a picture of someone that had no homicidal inclinations, then it would be a different matter.
i think it's very admirable that you welcome criticism, but don't see how making a tumblr and posting something you said without your knowledge would be conducive to that end.
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As I said, it relates to social trends, rather than individuals.

you find the views they are espousing morally wrong. as a general rule, i find talking about people behind their back to be morally questionable.
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I concur on the moral problem with backbiting. However I do not think that this necessarily falls under that umbrella.
if you want to complain to complain about people saying mean things, you shouldn't employ a mean means.
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In general, the main form that the tumblr takes is of juxtaposing the assertions of individuals with their own perception of themselves as 'nice guys'. I do not think that this is any great moral wrong. It is a situation where one must weigh up possible harm (people getting their feelings hurt) with possible benefit (problematic trends highlighted and critiqued).

Considering the subject matter of some (rape, eugenics etc.) the possibility of people getting their feelings hurt for holding offensive views comes off second to the importance of highlighting the problems with said views.
 
Devolution said:
If you're someone who whines and complains about being friendzoned maybe you should take a long look at yourself. We're not really implying anything unless you really believe that it's the fault of every woman you've encountered.
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yeah, i don't know what to tell you. i haven't done any complaining about being friend-zoned. i haven't brought my personal life into this.

you and timedog seem very intent on doing so. i understand why, trying to make me feel insecure , asking me to 'take a long look at myself, (lol)

it's lame.

Timedog said:
So do you talk like this in every thread where someone takes the moral high ground behind someone's back (which is a large percentage of GAF threads)? Or did this thread just hit a weak point for massive damage? X0
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no, i am unable to monitor neogaf constantly. so i cannot reply in every thread. seems like an unreasonable thing to expect of someone.

when i do reply to threads, i feel that i do so consistently.

and no, the thread has not hit a weak point for massive damage.

what's with the inquisition? think i'll buckle if you repeat yourself in bold? it's kind of lame.
 
OttomanScribe said:
Moving beyond the fact that the first paragraph seems to imply that the tumblr is about you. The question is an interesting one, the impression I got from the tumblr was more about social trends and prevalent ideas than it was problematic individuals. As a poster above points out, were it to be about that, the contact details of the people in question could be given out.

If I formed part of a trend of misogyny and racism, then I would see no wrong in being labelled as such. If I am putting myself out there in a public forum with such views (I have no problem putting my own face to my posts here for example, see that guy to the left of my post, that is me) then I should be capable of dealing with the consequences when the response is within reason. If, in some GAF meta thread, someone took a bunch of my posts and, say, got me to argue with myself, then I might be a little hurt, but it would be only my pride. I would be wrong to respond to it with offence, simply because I should not get upset about my own views, my own inconsistencies. If you feel that I am a hypocrite, you are welcome to take my photo and do exactly that. Even make a OS tumblr if you want :P

As the tumblr does not post pictures of these men with captions that imply any more than what they have said themselves, I don't see the problem with it. These pictures are accompanied with their real opinions, if it were 'I like to murder people' on a picture of someone that had no homicidal inclinations, then it would be a different matter.

As I said, it relates to social trends, rather than individuals.


I concur on the moral problem with backbiting. However I do not think that this necessarily falls under that umbrella.

In general, the main form that the tumblr takes is of juxtaposing the assertions of individuals with their own perception of themselves as 'nice guys'. I do not think that this is any great moral wrong. It is a situation where one must weigh up possible harm (people getting their feelings hurt) with possible benefit (problematic trends highlighted and critiqued).

Considering the subject matter of some (rape, eugenics etc.) the possibility of people getting their feelings hurt for holding offensive views comes off second to the importance of highlighting the problems with said views.
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i was just using myself just as an example to explain my thought process.

i agree that addressing a trend is problematic. you can't talk to each person individually. there are other venues though. it may be about trends, but the tumblr targets individuals.

you could make a fiction that satirizes the offending parties, or just message an offender when you notice it and encourage others to do the same.

public humiliation may be just as likely to hurt your cause, rather then help.

that said, i completely agree this tumblr is not a great moral wrong. i err on the side of free discourse, and hope that people become less sensitive to insults. people should feel free to make fun, but open to being told they come off as a little mean-spirited.

though i do feel that the tumblr does imply more than what's said in the profiles. it is lumping together racists with people who prefer a girl shave her legs. it's implying through juxtaposition that having a preference is not nice.
 
I think my problem with that Tumblr is that while I agree with the majority of submissions, some of the guys really don't deserve to be on there. It's one thing to make fun of a guy for being a misogynistic and entitled asshole, it's a completely different thing to make fun of someone because he's socially awkward. Screams of bullying to me, and reminds me unpleasantly of middle/high school where the popular kids made fun of the nerds.
 
So is the friendzone the definition that SIMPs use to describe their actions to themselves? Or is it the cop out excuse used when it all goes wrong?
 
please everybody stop criticising everything please! we're all unique and right in our own ways, as taught by butter fly in my my little pony: friendship is magic™.
 
Zeus Molecules said:
So is the friendzone the definition that SIMPs use to describe their actions to themselves? Or is it the cop out excuse used when it all goes wrong?
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The way I've taken to mean is that its a form of denial, rooted in selfish entitlements, that places the blame of the individual's failings to be in a relationship entirely on women. The "nice guy" is someone who takes that form of denial and transfers it from a specific woman to a general outlook on women as a whole. The fedora is the alien parasitic lifeform which feeds off of the beta-brainwaves which these individuals exhibit.

I am not too familiar with simping, but I wouldn't be surprised if the above is not one of the tactics found in the simp's toolbelt.
 
Photosynthesis said:
I think my problem with that Tumblr is that while I agree with the majority of submissions, some of the guys really don't deserve to be on there. It's one thing to make fun of a guy for being a misogynistic and entitled asshole, it's a completely different thing to make fun of someone because he's socially awkward. Screams of bullying to me, and reminds me unpleasantly of middle/high school where the popular kids made fun of the nerds.
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The problem with it is it includes some guys who aren't that bad in the same place as total assholes. So it makes them look even worse just by association.

For example, that shaving the legs question should not warrant inclusion on that list. I've seen many women say "yes" to that in their profiles, haha! Should they be included on that tumblr too?
 
I bet that most of the 'assholes' these guys complain about are actually not that bad either, just as the 'nice guys' aren't really that nice. In my experience, the 'nice guy' types will pick at tenuous reasons to brand a guy an asshole, to try and justify their jealousy and bitterness. It's douchery for a start to claim that the only quality that men in relationships have is that they act like assholes.

These guys aren't shy about calling the majority of men 'assholes' (which sort of makes them misandrists as well as misogynists, really...), so it only seems fair to call them out on their bullshit, no?

Doctor West said:
For example, that shaving the legs question should not warrant inclusion on that list. I've seen many women say "yes" to that in their profiles, haha! Should they be included on that tumblr too?
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If they were calling themselves feminists or whatever, then yes, they'd also be hypocrites for saying that all women are obliged to shave their legs. How would you feel about a woman who answered yes to, for example, "do you think men have an obligation to pay for every date?", if her profile was going on about how exceptionally man-friendly she was and how other women are just using men, etc.?
 
BobbyRobby said:
yeah, i don't know what to tell you. i haven't done any complaining about being friend-zoned. i haven't brought my personal life into this.

you and timedog seem very intent on doing so. i understand why, trying to make me feel insecure , asking me to 'take a long look at myself, (lol)

it's lame.



no, i am unable to monitor neogaf constantly. so i cannot reply in every thread. seems like an unreasonable thing to expect of someone.

when i do reply to threads, i feel that i do so consistently.

and no, the thread has not hit a weak point for massive damage.

what's with the inquisition? think i'll buckle if you repeat yourself in bold? it's kind of lame.
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You made a thread that's entire purpose was to make fun of something someone else posted on another forum, "behind their back", and inviting others to make fun of it behind that person's back too.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=441614

I'm sorry, but you don't get to do it, then call other people out for doing it. Right now I'm laughing at you way more than I'm laughing at the OKCupid guys in this thread.
 
Timedog said:
You made a thread that's entire purpose was to make fun of something someone else posted on another forum, "behind their back", and inviting others to make fun of it behind that person's back too.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=441614

I'm sorry, but you don't get to do it, then call other people out for doing it. Right now I'm laughing at you way more than I'm laughing at the OKCupid guys in this thread.
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i've also made fun of that band directly.

more importantly, i don't have a tumblr complaining about people being mean.

feel free to keep on creepin on me. you and devolution can take shifts scrubbing my post history.
 
BobbyRobby said:
i've also made fun of that band directly.

more importantly, i don't have a tumblr complaining about people being mean.

feel free to keep on creepin on me. you and devolution can take shifts scrubbing my post history.
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AKA you're full of shit and you have no comeback. Gotcha.

I'm gonna go ahead and just keep on laughing at your ridiculous posts, have a nice day.
 
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