I'd disagree till they outright make a press release stating as such.
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Nier Automata PC Release Date Confusion By Square Enix
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I'd disagree till they outright make a press release stating as such.
I don't really see how it's different from this, or even FFVIIR. Sony bets a lot on timed exclusive (dunno why, it might be cheaper and they probably think consumers are dumb enough to be unable to wait a few months to buy the game on their machine, and they wouldn't be wrong) these last few years. Even Lost Soul Aside, that indie project, is now a timed exclusive when Sony approached the guy. It's a commercial strategy, nothing else. But in the end, nothing is exclusive. Death Stranding won't be either.
If Kojima announced the PC version a year ago, that's because he knew Sony will allow him to do so once the deal will be over.
Kenzodielocke
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And for this game? Sony did not give a fuck about this game, I doubt they pay for having it off the PC for a while longer.
This is Square Enix, based on their release pattern for their Japanese games.
Drakengard 3 was PS3 exclusive as well, highly doubt Sony paid for it.
Sony owns the Ip to Death Stranding. When they announced the pc version they were going to be the publishers of said version. Theres no checks being written to themselves to keep it off pc.
If they decided to not do the pc release for whatever reason, thats all there is to it.
Wait, am I missing something? Why are people doubting a PC release when it's right on SE's store?
Sure, the release date is still "Early 2017", but it's not like it's not anything short of confirmed?
Source: https://store.na.square-enix.com/product/418950/nier-automata-pc-download
Sure, the release date is still "Early 2017", but it's not like it's not anything short of confirmed?
Source: https://store.na.square-enix.com/product/418950/nier-automata-pc-download
Drakengarsd 3 was playstation exclusive because the devs literally couldnt afford any other devkits
Abilidebob
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Come on, I'd love that but even I can't fool myself. It's using a 1st party engine, published by Sony, completely funded by Sony, with Sony architects helping development.
Lost Soul Aside is a UE4 game made by one guy, the timed exclusivity makes sense.
SquareEnix doesn't really like complete exclusivity these days. FFXV also came to X1, it'll obviously come to PC. Same with FFVII-R. Sony can throw money at those big companies for some timed exclusivity. But in Kojima's case they pretty much "own" everything.
I sincerely hope that I'm proven wrong, but until 2019 when the game is finally out(if that) we won't have much to go on.
I don't think anyone is seriously doubting that a PC release will happen. Or at least no one should.
What's very confused is their messaging about release dates. So far, chronologically, it's
No PC version -> PC release "early 2017" -> day-and-date PC release -> no information about PC release -> day-and-date PC release -> no information about PC release other than "2017"
And that's not an exaggeration -- it's the exact timeline of information coming from official sources at either the publisher or developer.
Crimsonclaw111
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Pretty much. Sick of Square.
May have also been my misinterpretation regarding Death Stranding too, but I can't really tell at this point. :C
Microsoft owns Quantum Break, yet I can buy it on Steam. Sony published Everybody's Gone to the Rapture on Steam. There's nothing that is stopping publishers to put their games on Steam.
I'm pretty sure Sony and Kojima both already knew they were going to use a Sony engine, that they were going to be completely funded by Sony and that some Sony guys will help with the development when they announced the PC version a year ago. These are the basic things that are discussed even before the early works start.
Besides, remember that recently Lego City Undercover, a game made with the help of Nintendo devs and published by Nintendo, was announced to come on PS4, One and Steam in addition to the Switch. It's another case of exclusive deal over.
NeoRaider
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For this game? I was giving my opinion like everyone else is doing in this thread.
Source for what?? lol
ShockingAlberto
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I have been sitting with my finger on the button for a few days now.
Jimmyfenix
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Grim Patron
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Sony would sell more consoles by paying activision for another COD map early access thing than NieR: Automata. There's no chance they paid to delay the PC version
I'm glad I got my black box order in. Now to wait for the proper OST preorder. Getting a standard copy as well.
I'm glad I got my black box order in. Now to wait for the proper OST preorder. Getting a standard copy as well.
Clear
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Considering the mad rush they've clearly been in to hit the Xbone/PS4 release date for XV, I think its entirely unsurprising that the inevitable PC version isn't announced yet.
PC is simply not their primary market, particularly for their Japan-centric developed titles.
Lets be honest, a Nier sequel was a pretty "out-of-left-field" announcement in the first place, that it was PS4 only initially made sense given the majority of the original game's sales and fanbase were on Playstation in Japan.
NeoRaider
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And??
AcceptableGhost
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I understand they make their games for the Japanese audience but
wut. That's a Sony 1st Party game.
S-E's internal track record doesn't really matter for this release -- Platinum's does.
I have no worries about the ports' quality or even the developers' ability to release it on time.
Just about S-E's competence as a publisher.
Lanrutcon
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Whoa there.
FFXIII runs like ass if you don't run at it at the base resolution. Random stutters, shitty asset loading, random framedrops.
Still not fixed, but they released the sequels! Guess how they run?
AcceptableGhost
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I understand they make their games for the Japanese audience first but still. I don't think a day and date PC release of FFXV was because of any sort of technical issue (like, an XONE version exists lol), it is probably because some guy at Square thinks it is a sound business strategy to have a delayed release (despite companies like Bandai Namco backing away from that method). They paid to have a bad CGI movie made and they couldn't afford to hire some extra staff for a day and date Steam release? Please.
Jimmyfenix
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You don't see the issue posting "I am 99% sure that they have some kind of deal with Sony" without backing that statement up ? its okay to assume or question this but saying you are 99% sure sounds crazy to be honest
ShadowSoldier89
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I'd gladly buy it, if I could get it with a PC copy
Yes and Microsoft publishing games on PC is a known business relationship. Can you point to the same for Sony? I sure can't.
If what you're pointing to me is the fact that Death Stranding is owned by Sony, read my previous post.
NeoRaider
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Yes, i am 99% sure that they have some kind of deal with Sony. And that is my opinion. What exactly is wrong with that? What do you think why i wrote 99% and not 100%?
If you have a source to prove me wrong, i will delete my post.
Actually, FF13's performance is completely independent of resolution (as long as your GPU keeps up). The framerate stability issues at 60 FPS have non-GPU reasons. As for the sequels, FF13-2 has a similarly wonky perfromance profile, LR is a significant improvement.
Anyway, as I said above, S-E's internal ports have no bearing on this really -- it's a Platinum game.
AcceptableGhost
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Yes and Microsoft publishing games on PC is a known business relationship. Can you point to the same for Sony? I sure can't.
Please point out which first party Playstation IPs which are owned by Sony are published on PC either by Sony or by another publisher with permission from Sony.
Edit: Damn. Wow. I got owned. I guess Death Stranding is coming to PC after all.
Same for Everybody's Gone To the Rapture (even with Santa Monica involvement) and Helldivers. Obviously still very different issues and depth of help / support / funding. I'd take the guess that Kojima mandates a PC version at a much later date, and until that and the original press release are challenged by a new press release, I think it will be a similar situation to the former games but a much much longer wait
That seems overly snarky for this discussion but okay. My point is KojiPro is not first party, if the original two QA are to be believed.
Bravo, to be honest.
Tip of the hat, and all. I haven't seen an argument so swiftly knocked out in a while.
Mister Wolf
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I could get it on the pro but I'm gonna wait till the pc release because I want that 120hz gameplay. Besides there will be a wealth of other good games to play around that time new and backlog.
Lanrutcon
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To be fair to this actual debate, Death Stranding did in fact have a PC announcement by the developer specifically stating their intent to release on the platform. Bloodborne didn't.
AcceptableGhost
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I think it was said that this game was made on Platinum's own engine, so chances are it will be locked to 60FPS.
Performance was pretty much always excellent. They did the 1080p resolution lock thing, but it has already been confirmed that this won't be an issue for Nier Automata.Ah. Framerate is pretty wild on my 1070
How's Platinum for PC ports these days?
The "worst" I can see potentially happening is a 60 FPS lock. Which would honestly be fine with me, then I'll just render it at 5k
To be fair to this actual debate, Death Stranding did in fact have a PC announcement by the developer specifically stating their intent to release on the platform. Bloodborne didn't.
Kojima also announced that we would regret our words and deeds about Quiet. I am not sure if I take his word completely at face value. However since he stated it would come to PC that should be the default unless they announce a change to his publishing relationship with Sony.
There is not much to discuss about Nier. It is still coming to PC it's just whether it's on the same day or not. I would assume the sudden quiet has to do with the PS4 exclusive Black Box Edition. I wouldn't be surprised if they have made a marketing deal with Sony and that was one of the included things.
HerroRygar
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Hm that's a good point. I was having the same debate, but it's not like we are going to be starved of games in early 2017.
To be fair to this actual debate, Death Stranding did in fact have a PC announcement by the developer specifically stating their intent to release on the platform. Bloodborne didn't.
That's fair but at the same time things seem more stacked in favor of it being exclusive compared to back then.
If Sony money, Sony IP, Sony engine etc. don't mean an exclusive then it will be an interesting situation for sure.
I knew there was a game that was first-party and published on Steam but I just couldn't remember which one it was. Good job.
I don't like Quiet too but I don't think it should really matter when we're talking about commercial decisions lol.
Ah. Framerate is pretty wild on my 1070
How's Platinum for PC ports these days?
Well the latest seems to be great as far as I can remember. I think only the first game MGS Rising was a bit wobbly with resolution cap. Can't remember the interview but Platinum seem quite confident in doing more PC stuff in future, but it seems much of their work with publishers leads to lack of PC games, till now and hopefully forever more