This isn't about a console war at all. I came across someone mentioning Nintendo supporting them. Looked it up and found that so I thought I'd post it. I don't give a shit about what consoles best, I grew out of that when I was 16.
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Nintendo America shows how clueless they are about internet things. Supports SOPA.
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This isn't about a console war at all. I came across someone mentioning Nintendo supporting them. Looked it up and found that so I thought I'd post it. I don't give a shit about what consoles best, I grew out of that when I was 16.
yea, that's good
Rahxephon91
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Wouldn't the automated response made by the company itself be it's actual stance? If they didn't want people to think this is their stance, why make this automatic response.
This is their stance.
graywolf323
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sorry about that, I had quote and was typing up my post before you edited
also I feel everyone should read this great FAQ that CNET made last week about SOPA and how it effects you
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57329001-281/how-sopa-would-affect-you-faq/?tag=mncol;txt
That should be enough. I would much rather corporations listen to consumers than stay in rigid beliefs that might be wrong.
Sure, but there are actual human beings making the decision to endorse this bill and it would effect them just as much as anybody else. It just bewilders me as to how anyone can actually support something so incredibly detrimental. Perhaps they just don't understand the full extent of the bill; it goes way beyond piracy. I completely understand why they would want to rid piracy, but this isn't the way to go about doing it.
Zoramon089
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This topic is the result of some pretty extreme misinformation and jumps to conclusions...
graywolf323
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I think that's part of the problem with the bill is a lot of people in Congress probably don't even realize (or think about) what it's really going to do
I don't believe they are just in the pockets of the media companies but instead are just ignorant so that's why we need to keep up this public outcry and contact your senators and representative in Congress
is this what you're talking about? http://www.petzl.com/us/outdoor/news-2/2011/12/22/petzl-americas-stance-sopa-and-protect-ip
But it doesn't give their reason or how. They could be supporting it becuase their in an association that does. They could support it becuase there honestly is no better legislation out there that deals with piracy.
If u feel that the email is enogh to convince you to leave the company, that's fine but I highly doubt Nntendo is seeing SOPA as some type of endgame they have been working towards.
RustyNails
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_/¯Yes looks like it.
Reddit has a habit of getting angry over what people with no authority or clue say.
Even if Nintendo does support SOPA, would anyone be remotely surprised? Like every other company that deals with a lot of piracy, they desperately want to protect their content. While the idea that one pirated game = one lost sale is complete ignorance, SOPA (in the minds of execs, at least) would deter more casual piracy and that would have a positive effect on sales. That's all a for-profit company that trades primarily in content cares about, potential horrible ramifications for the internet aside.
Zoramon089
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LOL
Were you here around E3? Going by this logic we know a lot more about the Wii U than was actually confirmed. Service rep replies don't count for anything, especially with regards to major topics.
The concern of the bill, and of the companies, is unifying internet protections and in some cases drawing real-life analogies to online interactions; being able to obtain the same court order to shut down che4psunglasssssses.info that they can to deal with the guy in the mall flogging fake Oakleys, seize his paypal and adsense accounts the same way as they can his bank account, and-reaching into unreasonabilty but codifying existing case law rather than creating a new banned act-preventing linking to the site. There are also clauses making the offering of streaming pirated versions just as illegal as downloadable ones.
The concern of civil libertarians is that the formalization of a process to request warrants for this rather than the current piecemeal lawsuits against infringers will create a system biased against the defendant, and a new category of things to accuse politically inconvenient sites of.
The concern of legitimate media sites is that there is no explicit line drawn in determining what constitutes rogue users on a legit site as opposed to a rogue site, thus exposing them to costly legal defenses.
The concern of network admins is that several of the technical details of the bill, written to require action by the ISPs rather than ICANN (for domain revocations) or the sites themselves, break several major security protocols.
In other words, it's a bad law, written to deal with a very bad situation. Hence the broad-based support; its vagueness and technical iffiness shit all over one sector if the courts don't do their job (they won't) but a dozen other sectors are screaming for it.
Yup, guess I'll just keep giving my money to valve and the indie developers.
Haunted
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Well, not everyone. Google, most notably.
Also Yahoo! Facebook Twitter AOL (lol) LinkedIn eBay Mozilla Wikimedia.
*salutes*
Haunted
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Fuck, just admit that your snarkiness (harhar they have no clue about the internet) backfired because a lot of big companies who obviously have expertise in the online space are also supporting it.
This SOPA thing is bad enough without you colouring your OP in rather embarassing fashion.
Also, fuck Nintendo for supporting this bill.
ShockingAlberto
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I feel like SOPA support (not just from Nintendo, but companies like Sony and Apple as well) are to cover their asses for investors.
Unless they're actually financially supporting the bill, they're probably just making symbolic gestures to keep their investors from complaining that they're doing nothing to fight piracy.
If they are financially supporting it, fuck 'em.
Unless they're actually financially supporting the bill, they're probably just making symbolic gestures to keep their investors from complaining that they're doing nothing to fight piracy.
If they are financially supporting it, fuck 'em.
Some of you take GAF fucking serious I swear. Alright, my stab at Nintendo's shit online services backfired. Because, you know, no one has ever mentioned anything about that before. It's still true what I said in that post you quoted though. But no, it must be because I'm secretly pushing my PS360 agenda that MUST be it!
Haunted
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I didn't even say that you were wrong about Nintendo. It was just a misplaced and unnecessary dig taking away from the thing you actually wanted this thread to focus on (I assume).
Also, fuck everyone supporting this bill. Speaking about public image, I can tolerate Sony and Nintendo, but knowing they support SOPA doesn't improve their image. Don't ask what I think of Apple, Activision and EA. >_>
This post sounds pretty reasonable, and therefore sticks out like a sore thumb in this angry thread.
Sorry you dont get to ruin the internet over that.
Zoramon089
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http://www.joystiq.com/2011/11/18/nintendo-ea-sony-sponsor-internet-censorship-bill/
According to that a large list of companies asked for legislation addressing copyright issues. This lead to some lawmaker drafting up SOPA in response.
This does not mean they support SOPA
I can't believe that had to be explicitly stated for people to understand. Only a fraction of those companies have come out, since SOPA was drafted, stating they support it. Using that list as a list of "companies in support of SOPA" is stupid
According to that a large list of companies asked for legislation addressing copyright issues. This lead to some lawmaker drafting up SOPA in response.
This does not mean they support SOPA
I can't believe that had to be explicitly stated for people to understand. Only a fraction of those companies have come out, since SOPA was drafted, stating they support it. Using that list as a list of "companies in support of SOPA" is stupid
Rahxephon91
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Well then that just speaks of crappy organization in their own company.
I didn't say it did, but I would hope that when it comes to serious issues like this,, a company would make sure that those who are supposed to respond to public questions are on the same page with what the companies stance is. Regardless of why.
I really don't care that much. It's not like this will stop me from buying the few Nintendo products I purchase. I'm not sure why this thread has to turn into a thread where Nintendo fans have to play damage control as well.
Why?
This is what corporations have wanted since forever.
It's basically why it even exists in the first place.
Anticitizen One
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2011 was not a good year for Nintendo. They went from top dog to laughing stock
So the automated response came from the automated response factory? Is that next to the fortune cookie fortune factory?
To top dog again?
jim-jam bongs
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hahaha wat
Dynamite Shikoku
Congratulations, you really deserve it!
Fuck nintendo
AceBandage
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Oh GAF.
Typical overreactionary posts...
Typical overreactionary posts...
jim-jam bongs
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Do you have any idea what SOPA is? As a Nintendo fan I assume you've only just learned how to go online so perhaps it's over your head, but effectively it's giving power to corporations to request internet censorship at a level only seen in China right now. What would be an appropriate reaction to that?
Because that is all SOPA is about. Get a clue.
Zoramon089
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Can't beat em with logic, beat em with ad hominem!
jim-jam bongs
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Why not do both?
Ignis Fatuus
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Uh huh.
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