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Nintendo announces 3DS Control Expansion Pack, details in OP, STOP POSTING SCANS

Travado said:
And 99,9% of Nintendo fans were saying recently: "stop posting bullshit found in 01.net, when we are banning this site from Neogaf, more lulz from that site, blah blah blah".

lol Iwata *laughs*
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DoctorWho said:
Designing for a nub versus touch screen seems like too entirely different things. When the DS was used in that fashion I always had issues with the functionality.
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I don't see the problem. Camera movement is certainly no different.
 
So now it's all but given that most action games or anything with camera control will use the second analog what is the point of the original 3DS? I'm not strapping that fucking tumor onto it, and I shouldn't have to. But obviously I want the superior control scheme so what do I have to do? Buy ANOTHER 3DS(when it eventually gets remade with 2 analogs)?

This is so dumb.
 
DoctorWho said:
I knew I was getting a system with very little game support, I even knew there would probably be a revision in a year and a half. I didn't expect the revision to potentially have an extra analog nub though. There's a big difference between a redesign for asthetic and one that completely changes the core functionality of the system. If that is what is coming down the pipe - I'm done with Nintendo.
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point taken. &, yes, if my ds'd broken, & i'd gotten a ($250) 3ds as a replacement, i'd be pissed off at this particular type of 'redesign' too...

otoh, of course, nothing nintendo does surprises me anymore :) ...
 
The 3DS is a nightmare. I haven't regretted a Nintendo hardware purchase this much since the Wii.

Trading the system in for money off the new version at Gamestop is going to be a nightmare now that we have to buy the new system before we can clumsily transfer games to it, like cavemen would.

Why do I keep supporting Nintendo's incredible VC fail?
 
I'll reserve final judgement until I actually see the thing in action but at this point I do not like where the 3DS is headed. This is two pretty big "oops" from Nintendo in a row if you include the price drop. What's next, a portable generator that fits on your back to make up for the poorer than expected battery life?
 
DoctorWho said:
I'm waiting to hear more on this but I'm not entirely convinced at how well this will work. Designing for a nub versus touch screen seems like too entirely different things. When the DS was used in that fashion I always had issues with the functionality.
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It means it's not even a mandatory accesory for the only game we know it's going to use it (MH). I doubt more than a dozen of games in the whole console life will use it, probably mandatory on a couple a la Motion+.

While there's most likely a Lite/XL/Sleek/Extra-battery/Better3D revision in the works (even probably TBA on September 13th conference) I doubt dual analog will be part of it.
 
Mechanized said:
So now it's all but given that most action games or anything with camera control will use the second analog what is the point of the original 3DS? I'm not strapping that fucking tumor onto it, and I shouldn't have to. But obviously I want the superior control scheme so what do I have to do? Buy ANOTHER 3DS(when it eventually gets remade with 2 analogs)?

This is so dumb.
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I won't be getting the add on or another 3DS. The touch screen is the superior control scheme.
 
probably would have made more sense to wait until the spring, announce the redesign that includes the second analogue stick, and then say "if you don't want to upgrade, great, we've got you covered" and announce this thing.
 
Stumpokapow said:
probably would have made more sense to wait until the spring, announce the redesign that includes the second analogue stick, and then say "if you don't want to upgrade, great, we've got you covered" and announce this thing.
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And spend these months into making the attachment not ugly...
 
beje said:
It means it's not even a mandatory accesory for the only game we know it's going to use it (MH). I doubt more than a dozen of games in the whole console life will use it, probably mandatory on a couple a la Motion+.

While there's most likely a Lite/XL/Sleek/Extra-battery/Better3D revision in the works (even probably TBA on September 13th conference) I doubt dual analog will be part of it.
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I'm hoping it won't be. I've still got a bad feeling though.
 
Is this going to be like Wii Motion Plus (and every other add-on peripheral) where devs don't use it because you can't count on everybody owning one and they don't want to alienate an audience?
 
I need to take a break from reading this thread.

Also I find it funny how 01net is apparently redeemed for their whole week of Nintendo is Doomed news because this one rumour turned out true. If they stuck to one article it would be okay, but once they starting spewing statements along the lines of the moon being made of cheese it came of no surprise that many became suspect.

I'll just wait and see how this turns out.
 
Stumpokapow said:
probably would have made more sense to wait until the spring, announce the redesign that includes the second analogue stick, and then say "if you don't want to upgrade, great, we've got you covered" and announce this thing.
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True.

But then we wouldn't have this thread.

SmokyDave said:
First time I've ever read that in a handheld topic. My mind is blown.
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If I had to choose playing Metroid Prime Hunters with the touchscreen or with an analog stick (for camera movement), the superior control method would be the touch screen. It's the same difference between using a Wii remote and an analog stick on the console side of things. The Wii remote is the superior control scheme.
 
Alextended said:
And spend these months into making the attachment not ugly...
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i kinda feel like that's impossible given that

1) it had to connect to the microphoneheadphone port

2) it had to be thick enough to be sturdy enough to support the analogue stick and whatever underlying ball mechanism they use for it, so the stick couldn't have gone "over" the system

i mean, i agree that it's ugly and everything, i'm just saying i don't think it could have been less ugly. this is clearly a hacked on stopgap, so to me it would have made more sense to announce it as a hacked on stopgap.
 
Good.

God.

When the dust settles and history is written, the 3DS is going to go down as one of the worst abortions ever released on the gaming scene by a major market leader.
 
dragonfart28 said:
I won't be getting the add on or another 3DS. The touch screen is the superior control scheme.
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I think it's inferior for the type of games you would use with a second analog stick. Zelda seems to work well as a 3D adventure game on the 3DS, they should focus on making games that utilize a similar control scheme instead of releasing an ugly ass peripheral and a potential redisign that could split the market.
 
if it's for MH3, will the biggest chunk of portable MH fanbase be willing to lug this thing around? the 3DS is already a wee bit heavy compared to the DSL/DSi. compared to a PSP? maybe a tiny bit more. pocketable? where are all the "handhelds must pass the pocket test" people? if/when Vita's MH game is announced and no battle station add-on is required, will MH fans forgo the high price of entry for the system on account of convenience?

if it's not JUST for MH, how many regular ass users are going to buy this thing? and what for? what is worth making your 3DS a giant hunk of whatthefuck?

i mean i think the PSV is a bit on the big side, and i feel like 3DS is a little too weighty as it is, but this thing flies in the face of portability. it's only going to fuel the 'tablets are the future' crowd's fire. buttons are superior and now this is making it look bad. :P
 
So, this thing uses the IR port to communicate with the 3DS? That seems to be the only port it could be using since it doesn't hook into any of the other two ports.

Anyway, I hope this is only for Monster Hunter 3G, and that it comes with the game for free.
 
So is it confirmed or commonly expected this is the dummy for current 3DS owners to suck on when they announce the new 3DSi next week? Coz that's what it seems like.
 
dragonfart28 said:
It's the same difference between using a Wii remote and an analog stick on the console side of things. The Wii remote is the superior control scheme.
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Not really. In fact the "wiimote" control scheme will be all but dead in a couple years.
 
Stumpokapow said:
probably would have made more sense to wait until the spring, announce the redesign that includes the second analogue stick, and then say "if you don't want to upgrade, great, we've got you covered" and announce this thing.
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The expansion is primarly made for Monster Hunter -- and Monster Hunter is going to be released this year in Japan.
 
I'm shocked by the look of this thing. It's as if Nintendo believed that only way to pull this off was to go back in time and abduct the SEGA employee who designed the 32X. Not that that person isn't still alive today, it's just that they needed a truly authentic mid 90's aesthetic that couldn't be reproduced today.
 
DoctorWho said:
I think it's inferior for the type of games you would use with a second analog stick. Zelda seems to work well as a 3D adventure game on the 3DS, they should focus on making games that utilize a similar control scheme instead of releasing an ugly ass peripheral and a potential redisign that could split the market.
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Fair enough.

I think a second slidepad would be more comfortable, and it would be nice to have the option to switch it up.

The worst part about this (aside from how fugly it is), is that it won't be supported much until a complete hardware revision. Until then, this will be treated as the "monster hunter controller".
 
Didn't Nintendo learn anything from the Wii U. Just because someone (?Ubisoft?) leaked vauge info to a site doesn't mean you have to jump out from behind the curtain and go "wahahah, this is really what it is an looks like" before running off stage begofe anyone can ask any questions.

This currently, will either be yet another Nintendo peripheral used by 6.25 games (e.g. Wii Spreak, Wii MotionPlus, DK Bongos,Gamecube Mic etc...) or actuall will be the way forward. Even if its the former expect it to be standard with a future revision (as the "3DS slide sitck custom frame and battery boost power 3.10" wouldn't fit a redesigned form factor)

I guess they've got MotionPlus in mind (people didn't stop uying Wii Remotes thinking "I'll wait for one with it bulit in" which took 2 years) but the rumor mill (and Nintendos portable history) do point towards; hardware revision eta in...don't buy this current prototype.
 
pharmboy044 said:
And, LOL AT 01net HATERZ. Eating crow yet?
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While 01net may have some credit for some random stuff that actually became true, they're the typical site that throws a lot of shit at the wall to see if it sticks to drive traffic in and say "told ya" when they're lucky.
 
I'm in utter disbelief. I can't believe they went and created this thing.

Surely this means a redesign is coming along? I have to say, this is NOT was I want for my 3DS.
 
beje said:
While 01net may have some credit for some random stuff that actually became true, they're the typical site that throws a lot of shit at the wall to see if it sticks to drive traffic in and say "told ya" when they're lucky.
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... random, right...
 
I continue to be very happy with my decision to delay purchasing a 3DS. Why wouldn't Nintendo wait on this announcement until after they'd seen the holiday sales from the price drop? That way they could have seen if the stop-gap before a true redesign was necessary.
 
POWERSPHERE said:
So is it confirmed or commonly expected this is the dummy for current 3DS owners to suck on when they announce the new 3DSi next week? Coz that's what it seems like.
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Yup. Surprising number of people in denial about the fact that dual analog not only will, but must become standard for the platform to survive. The sooner that change happens the better. It means fewer people will be stuck with their OG 3DS+analog 'tardpack. Not that I understand why anyone bought a 3DS in its current form in the first place.
 
wrowa said:
The expansion is primarly made for Monster Hunter -- and Monster Hunter is going to be released this year in Japan.
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What if the new model 3DS is also released this year in Japan, launching with MH?
 
gkryhewy said:
What if the new model 3DS is also released this year in Japan, launching with MH?
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If they released the revision this year, I would travel back in time and ensure my past self never bought a Nintendo product - ever.

Overkill? Probably.
 
The_Darkest_Red said:
What really scares me about all of this is how much Nintendo is panicking. It's like they have no faith in their own products anymore.
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Nah, they've done this before. This is similar to the original release of motion plus.

DoctorWho said:
If they released the revision this year, I would travel back in time and ensure my past self never bought a Nintendo product - ever.

Overkill? Probably.
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Yea, it is pretty shocking to get such an influx of news about this thing only 3 months after launch. I have to admit I am pretty miffed as well, but I guess I'm just taking it better than most (read: jaded).

That said, "dead", "3rd party" and "fail" should always be laughed at.
 
pharmboy044 said:
How the fuck do you hold that thing?
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I would say this of all things seems to be the smallest concern. From the way it looks in those scans it seems like the shell is actually trying to replicate the shape of a more regular controller, which in the end may make this more comfortable to hold than the regular 3DS.
 
decoyplatypus said:
I continue to be very happy with my decision to delay purchasing a 3DS. Why wouldn't Nintendo wait on this announcement until after they'd seen the holiday sales from the price drop? That way they could have seen if the stop-gap before a true redesign was necessary.
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well technically at this point this is nothing more than a peripheral for one game at this point, a game launching in japan. I'm not even sure this will have much of a further impact on public perception beyond us people who are avid "in-the-know" gamers.
 
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