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Nintendo Co. announced today its consolidated results for the first quarter.


Consolidated Results For the Three Months Ended June 2012 (Million Yen)

Net Sales ---> 84,813

Operating loss ---> 10,331

Net loss ---> 17,231


1 US $ = 79.31 Yen (as of June 30, 2012)

1 Euro = 98.74 Yen (as of June 30, 2012)

NDS Worldwide Unit Sales (Unit:Million)

Hardware       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY      LTD

FY 2004/05       -        -      2.84     2.43      5.27     5.27

FY 2005/06     1.38     2.19     5.59     2.30      11.46    16.73

FY 2006/07     4.54     5.55     8.79     4.68      23.56    40.29

FY 2007/08     6.98     6.37     11.15    5.81      30.31    70.60   

FY 2008/09     6.94     6.79     11.89    5.56      31.18    101.78

FY 2009/10     5.97     5.73     11.65    3.76      27.11    128.89

FY 2010/11     3.15     3.54     9.01     1.82      17.52    146.42

FY 2011/12     1.44     1.14     2.06     0.46      5.10     151.52

FY 2012/13     0.54      -        -        -        0.54     152.05



Software       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY       LTD

FY 2004/05       -        -      5.01     5.48      10.49    10.49

FY 2005/06     5.32     7.98     22.60    14.05     49.95    60.44

FY 2006/07     18.35    24.81    50.64    29.75     123.55   183.98

FY 2007/08     34.26    41.24    71.39    38.73     185.62   369.61   

FY 2008/09     36.59    48.43    78.76    33.53     197.31   566.92

FY 2009/10     29.09    42.06    50.23    30.21     151.59   718.5

FY 2010/11     22.42    32.42    44.15    21.99     120.98   839.48

FY 2011/12     12.13    16.86    22.21    9.62      60.82    900.31

FY 2012/13     8.48      -        -        -        8.48     908.79

Wii Worldwide Unit Sales (Unit:Million)

Hardware       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY      LTD

FY 2006/07       -        -      3.19     2.65      5.84     5.84

FY 2007/08     3.43     3.90     6.96     4.32      18.61    24.45   

FY 2008/09     5.17     4.93     10.42    5.43      25.95    50.39

FY 2009/10     2.23     3.53     11.30    3.48      20.53    70.93

FY 2010/11     3.04     1.93     8.75     1.36      15.08    86.01

FY 2011/12     1.56     1.79     5.61     0.88      9.84     95.85

FY 2012/13     0.71      -        -        -        0.71     96.56

                 

Software       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY       LTD

FY 2006/07       -        -      17.51    11.33     28.84    28.84

FY 2007/08     15.98    20.99    47.38    35.25     119.60   148.44  

FY 2008/09     40.41    41.00    82.37    40.80     204.58   353.02

FY 2009/10     31.07    45.14    80.43    35.17     191.81   544.83 

FY 2010/11     28.17    37.04    85.33    20.72     171.26   716.09

FY 2011/12     13.44    23.01    52.61    13.31     102.37   818.46 

FY 2012/13     8.47      -        -        -        8.47     826.93

3DS Worldwide Unit Sales (Unit:Million)

Hardware       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY     LTD

FY 2010/11       -        -        -      3.61      3.61    3.61

FY 2011/12     0.71     2.36      8.36    2.10      13.53   17.13       

FY 2012/13     1.86       -        -       -        1.86    19.00



Software       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY     LTD

FY 2010/11       -        -        -      9.43      9.43    9.43

FY 2011/12     4.53     3.60     19.91    7.96      36.00   45.42    

FY 2012/13     7.39       -        -       -        7.39    52.81

FY 2012/13 Nintendo Forecast (Unit:Million)

               3DS       NDS      (Wii + Wii U)      
	
Hardware       18.5      2.5          10.5               

Software       73.0      37.0         70.0

 

[Thoraxes]

Sounds like everything seems to be going according to Iwata's schedule.

 

[Dragoon En Regalia]

Looking good so far. 3DS unit sales up from last Q1!

 

[ShockingAlberto]

3DS really needs a boffo Christmas this year.

It's in in no danger of selling worse, I think, but it could certainly be selling better, especially in America.

 

[AniHawk]

Sounds like everything seems to be going according to Iwata's schedule.

 

[Pureauthor]

Welp. Those are some numbers all right.

 

[AniHawk]

3DS really needs a boffo Christmas this year.

It's in in no danger of selling worse, I think, but it could certainly be selling better, especially in America.

if nsmb2 can't do anything, then all the pokemon in the world won't help it out whenever it comes along. the 3ds might actually signal the slow death for the series in the us if the 3ds doesn't start doing significantly better.

 

[BrokenEchelon]

Looking good so far. 3DS unit sales up from last Q1!

Or: The worst quarter since last year's quarter, which was the worst quarter until this one.

 

[Zombie James]

They only moved 1.59M Wii's worldwide in the last six months? I don't usually follow sales threads, but that's sounds like a massive slowdown

 

[Majine]

Wii vs. 100 million mark.

 

[Bruno MB]

3DS sales in this last quarter for region:

Japan - 920,000
The Americas - 420,000
Other - 530,000

Total - 1,860,000

 

[Visualante2]

Makes you wonder if they dropped the price on the DS, if they could break into emerging markets, like Sony did with the PS2 in India.

 

[AniHawk]

3DS sales in this last quarter for region:

Japan - 920,000
The Americas - 420,000
Other - 530,000

Total - 1,860,000

the 'other' region is surprisingly high. i thought the machine was doing worse in pal regions than it was in north america.

 

[Yagharek]

DS tops 150 million. How is PS2 standing now? Interesting to see both of the two top selling systems of all time exhausted their sales base at around the same number.

 

[Last Hearth]

$220 million loss in one quarter, ouch.

 

[Kazerei]

3DS sales in this last quarter for region:

Japan - 920,000
The Americas - 420,000
Other - 530,000

Total - 1,860,000

LMAO. The 3DS software release schedule has been great in Japan. I'm not surprised the region accounted for almost half of worldwide shipments.

Anyways, it was another negative quarter, which isn't a surprise, but it wasn't nearly as bad as last year's. Will be interesting to see how the Wii U launch goes, and whether the hoiiday quarter can save Nintendo's fiscal year.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

Dedicated gaming handhelds seem to be becoming solely a "big winter holiday" gift. Your daily handheld gaming seems to be on phones.

Seriously though... the western dedicated handheld market is contracting very quickly. Not an unforeseen development, but still a little jarring to see it happening.

I could be wrong, and both the 3DS and Vita could have bright futures... but there's something in the air at Nintendo and Sony offices.

Fear.

the 'other' region is surprisingly high. i thought the machine was doing worse in pal regions than it was in north america.

That "other" covers a lot of ground I'd wager.

 

[AniHawk]

DS tops 150 million. How is PS2 standing now? Interesting to see both of the two top selling systems of all time exhausted their sales base at around the same number.

the ps2's around 155m and outselling the ds. the ds won't catch the ps2 unless sony stops now and nintendo keeps selling it for 4 more years.

 

[cw_sasuke]

LMAO. The 3DS software release schedule has been great in Japan. I'm not surprised the region accounted for almost half of worldwide shipments.

This + there is way less competition for it in Japan. Especially in the US the DS is still selling rather well since its price drop.

 

[Instro]

When did Iwata say he expected the company to be profitable again anyway? Q3 or something was it?

 

[AniHawk]

Fear.

i thought it was love. man, that explains a lot.

 

[Majine]

the ps2's around 155m and outselling the ds. the ds won't catch the ps2 unless sony stops now and nintendo keeps selling it for 4 more years.

Man, the PS2. It will probably never be beaten.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

i thought it was love. man, that explains a lot.

Could be pot smoke.

 

[Yagharek]

the ps2's around 155m and outselling the ds. the ds won't catch the ps2 unless sony stops now and nintendo keeps selling it for 4 more years.

Yeah, seems that way based on pretty low sales. Unless there is a glut of unsold units cleared out at a cheap price it would appear the gap will remain around the 2-3m mark.

 

[electroplankton]

Dedicated gaming handhelds seem to be becoming solely a "big winter holiday" gift. Your daily handheld gaming seems to be on phones.

Seriously though... the western dedicated handheld market is contracting very quickly. Not an unforeseen development, but still a little jarring to see it happening.

I could be wrong, and both the 3DS and Vita could have bright futures... but there's something in the air at Nintendo and Sony offices.

Actually, if you look all other platforms sales, in the last couple of years, they all sold really well only during holiday season. Video game sector doomed? No.

 

[walking fiend]

what's really alarming, is the software sales;

although 3DS is tracking ahead of the DS, but it's attach ratio is noticeably lower

 

[bigtroyjon]

Only real surprising thing to me is that they didn't change any of their forecasts despite the situation in Europe getting really bad over the last 3 months.

They pegged the Euro at 105 Yen and it averaged 98.74 for the quarter. Considering it's sitting under 95 at the moment, 105 is looking like a pipe dream.

 

[Nibel]

NSMB2 and Pokémon can't come soon enough

 

[electroplankton]

what's really alarming, is the software sales;

although 3DS is tracking ahead of the DS, but it's attach ratio is noticeably lower

In the same span of time?
Given the really bad economic situation, I'd say that more than hardware, it's software to be affected. People buy the system, but less games on it.

 

[AniHawk]

Man, the PS2. It will probably never be beaten.

yeah, and the thing about the ps2 is that it was on average more expensive than the ds and a home console- so none of that 'getting one each for the kids' and while i'm sure there were replacements, especially when the slim came out, the ds had far more revisions to boost sales numbers.

the ps2 reached way more people than any other video game console ever, and it'll probably stay that way unless one of the ps4/720 set-top boxes really takes off.

 

[guit3457]

Things are looking good for Nintendo. They lose less money than last year and they will be profitable again at the end of this fiscal year.

It could have been better but the yen/$ and yen/€ currency are really hurting japanese companies.

I go every year to Japan for 4 years and I remember that the yen/€ currency was 1€=116 yen and right now is 1€=94 yen. The Japanese government has to do something.

 

[BrokenEchelon]

Actually, if you look all other platforms sales, in the last couple of years, they all sold really well only during holiday season. Video game sector doomed? No.

There's a reason other console generations lasted about five years: Marketshare gets exhausted.

Handhelds are very clearly feeling the pain from smartphones and tablets. Most children I know who have owned handhelds at some point had the attention spans of goldfish, so I can totally see how five minutes of Angry Birds > 2 hours of Pokemon for many of them. I wasn't in that camp myself (obviously, I'm posting on GAF at 2AM) but the desire for instant gratification in our society has only increased over the last decade.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

Actually, if you look all other platforms sales, in the last couple of years, they all sold really well only during holiday season. Video game sector doomed? No.

Actually, that's pretty much the standard.

Some consoles can achieve almost half their yearly sales in two months. A few have seen even higher ratios. I'm more worried about how low they've been in non-holiday months. Now for older consoles this makes sense. The market willing to buy has bought. Vita floundering is of course scary. But to see a Nintendo handheld barely treading water?

That's showing signs of a large change in buying habits and public perception.

 

[Hero]

If the 3DS XL and NSMB2 doesn't boost the 3DS outside of Japan this holiday season then the future might not be so hot for dedicated systems. We'll see.

 

[jakncoke]

They only moved 1.59M Wii's worldwide in the last six months? I don't usually follow sales threads, but that's sounds like a massive slowdown

Pretty sure its been under 100k in America for a couple months now, Japan its been under 10k a week more times than not. So yeah its been a rough for Wii sales as of late.

 

[AniHawk]

what's really alarming, is the software sales;

although 3DS is tracking ahead of the DS, but it's attach ratio is noticeably lower

yeah well there are probably a good 60-80 million more ds users than there are 3ds users. attach ratios are usually pretty low at the start, and historically low on handhelds versus consoles.

gb/c: 4.25
gba: 4.6
ds: 5.97
3ds: 2.77

psp: 4.34
vita: ??? (1.8m systems sold, but no software numbers)

 

[Thunder Monkey]

Pretty sure its been under 100k in America for a couple months now, Japan its been under 10k a week more times than not. So yeah its been a rough for Wii sales as of late.

It's been rough for the Wii since Nintendo (and then everyone else) stopped making games for it.

Two years now?

 

[AOC83]

Dedicated gaming handhelds seem to be becoming solely a "big winter holiday" gift. Your daily handheld gaming seems to be on phones.

Seriously though... the western dedicated handheld market is contracting very quickly. Not an unforeseen development, but still a little jarring to see it happening.

I could be wrong, and both the 3DS and Vita could have bright futures... but there's something in the air at Nintendo and Sony offices.

Fear.

That´s pretty much Nintendos own fault, they have almost no software for the west and the software prices are way to high, especially when you consider that when of their main target groups is children below 14 an you can´t expect them to pay 40+ €/$ on new titles.

Bring the software prices down to 30€/$ max and start to actually release software for the western audience and everything will be fine.

 

[SmokyDave]

I wonder if there's anyone left in the 'smartphones don't affect dedicated handhelds' camp?

 

[ohlawd]

If the 3DS XL/NSMB2 combo don't light up the charts or NoA fail to keep the momentum if they DO make an initial killing on the charts.... I don't even wanna think about it.

The yen conversion rate is soooooooo bad, though.

 

[samman6]

Not to worried about the numbers, 3ds looks like it will be fine, and saw quite a rise in this quarter from last year, I think the holiday will be really big for it. Wiiu is the dark horse here if that thing tanks, it could be bad news for nintendo.

 

[Nibel]

I wonder if there's anyone left in the 'smartphones don't affect dedicated handhelds' camp?

They'll come back when the 3DS is profitable again.

 

[StreetsAhead]

That´s pretty much Nintendos own fault, they have almost no software for the west and the software prices are way to high, especially when you consider that when of their main target groups is children below 14 an you can´t expect them to pay 40+ €/$ on new titles.

Bring the software prices down to 30€/$ max and start to actually release software for the western audience and everything will be fine.

Second half of this year looks better.

Also, $60 Pokemon games on Gameboy Advance in Australia, so excuse me if I have no sympathy for for 14 y/o in other countries.

 

[Kazerei]

Wii vs. 100 million mark.

It's gonna be close, but Wii seriously needs a price cut. First quarter shipment was down a whopping 55% YOY. As long as the drop is below 58% YOY over the fiscal year, it'll make it.

 

[NateDrake]

What do people feel Nintendo has to sell of 3DS in North America for it to light the charts on fire? I don't think we'll be seeing 500k a month figures like we saw of the DS, but 250-300k or something?

 

[cw_sasuke]

I wonder if there's anyone left in the 'smartphones don't affect dedicated handhelds' camp?

They pretty much kept all the bigger games for the holiday season, i dont see how this has anything to do with smartphones when they dont release shit for the system. Every console has its weaker spring/summer months....

 

[electroplankton]

There's a reason other console generations lasted about five years: Marketshare gets exhausted.

Handhelds are very clearly feeling the pain from smartphones and tablets. Most children I know who have owned handhelds at some point had the attention spans of goldfish, so I can totally see how five minutes of Angry Birds > 2 hours of Pokemon for many of them. I wasn't in that camp myself (obviously, I'm posting on GAF at 2AM) but the desire for instant gratification in our society has only increased over the last decade.

Anecdotal evidence.
Most kids I know do want 3DS, and still play a lot with DS because of Pokémon, Inazuma Eleven and stuffs, that are something you cannot find elsewhere. But still, anecdotal evidence.

3DS needs to take off in the West, as well as DS needed at the time. In Japan, both became really popular in the first year or so, while in North America and Europe the latter started to become a thing only after DS Lite and Mario were released.

Actually, that's pretty much the standard.

Some consoles can achieve almost half their yearly sales in two months. A few have seen even higher ratios. I'm more worried about how low they've been in non-holiday months. Now for older consoles this makes sense. The market willing to buy has bought. Vita floundering is of course scary. But to see a Nintendo handheld barely treading water?

That's showing signs of a large change in buying habits and public perception.

It's also a standard that an handheld needs time to carburate. We have seen this with DS, and 3DS in Japan.

 

[bigtroyjon]

yeah well there are probably a good 60-80 million more ds users than there are 3ds users. attach ratios are usually pretty low at the start, and historically low on handhelds versus consoles.

gb/c: 4.25
gba: 4.6
ds: 5.97
3ds: 2.77

psp: 4.34
vita: ??? (1.8m systems sold, but no software numbers)

Through 6 quarters the DS was at 3.61 while the 3DS is at 2.78. 3DS attach rate is going to suck as long as hardware sales are weak in the US which historically has the best software sales.

 

[AniHawk]

What do people feel Nintendo has to sell of 3DS in North America for it to light the charts on fire? I don't think we'll be seeing 500k a month figures like we saw of the DS, but 250-300k or something?

the 250k-300k mark would mean it's doing ps2 levels in the us. that would be doing well. not ds well, not even gba well, but well enough. the system and its games are just too fucking expensive.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

cool.