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Nintendo Classic Mini - NES Coming on November 11th (30 NES games)
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SpiceMelange
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Well they certainly accounted for the overscan, why wouldn't they have accounted for how the pixels are actually displayed too?
Actually it does look like that on an rgb modded nes which displays the pure output that the NES renders.
So let's not bring up the "nah, shitty RF is how it was supposed to look" debate.
KojiKnight
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If you open the can of worms...
Kirby is looking rather anorexic in that "pure" output... Almost like he want designed to be viewed as straight pixel art. He's out of proportion since he's not stretched to a proper 4:3 aspect ratio.
Well that's not really my argument. My CRT displays games in 4:3 and it still looks crystal clear. It certainly doesn't add a shitload of blur like Nintendo does.
Cucurbitacée
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It will be the US versions, Final Fantasy never came out in Europe, Super C and Ninja Gaiden are Probotector II and Shadow Warrior here.
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Deleted member 10571
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I can imagine it being a legal thing, since it's transformed to "Probotector" in Europe, and Super C is not (I don'T think it even came out over here). With SC, they just can sell the thing "as is" everywhere without any need to adapt the content, with Contra it wouldn't be that easy I'd imagine.
Edit: Super C was Probotector II? Well there goes my theory then
Cucurbitacée
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All the games on the list are already available on Virtual Console. If one is missing, it must be the same reasons it's missing on the Virtual Console too.
Panajev2001a
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I am a bit worried that seeing the extra cash potential of selling a limited catalogue together with hardware they make a good profit on that the VC initiative on their consoles will wither and be taken out. I am worried Nintendo will think "why selling the ROM's when I can also sell them HW". They will expect you to buy NX for NX only titles then a plethora of consoles to play SNES, NES, and N64 titles.
I would like VC and a software based approach to be part of NX too and not replaced by an array of boxes.
SinCityAssassin
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The thing is, which would make them more money. Selling both a Virtual Console catalogue and a line of plug and play classics.
Or just the plug and play classics.
lifeexpectancy
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Holy hell why am I considering getting this? There are a million ways for me to play old NES games via emulation and/or on other Nintendo consoles like the gameboy advance SP, yet I'm totally gonna get wooed into buying this just for the nostalgia of the way it looks!
Well played, Nintendo, well played.
Well played, Nintendo, well played.
Fredrik
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Nice it seems like you're right! Nintendo uk website actually have links to all the games included with the mini and the games I checked at least said that the Wii U Virtual Console games was the US version of the games, so hopefully they're using those versions for the mini too.Cucurbitacée;210170163 said:
https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Misc-/Ni...ni-Nintendo-Entertainment-System-1124287.html
-shadow-
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The only reason they should even release a 50hz ROM right here people! This game is so much better with the robots. I just love it!
Which is weird because the input lag seems to be a case by case situation. Many complain about terrible lag, while many others including me don't have any input lag. It's really odd and I honestly have no idea what could be the problem.
Though that filter. Just give me the damn option to get rid of it already!
Notorious_Roy
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Do we know how long the controller cable will be ?
NoHeDidn't
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No KUNG-FU MASTER NO BUY!!
Who am I kidding I'll cave now we need SNES do it Nintendo.
Who am I kidding I'll cave now we need SNES do it Nintendo.
You can remove the blur filter on NES WII U VC games by going into the systems menu and selecting a resolution other than 1080p. For whatever reason, only outputting in 1080p results in the blur, at least on my tv where it is removed entirely and the games look noticeably sharper at 1080i or 720p. Don't know how to remove the darkness filter, though.
The darkness filter can be removed...but it requires unpacking the game, editing the parameters using a dev program and then repacking it with the correct xorpads (the Wii U equivalent of them, I don't recall the proper term). Which is a huge pain in the ass and too much effort really.
It's significantly easier in the DS VC though on the Wii U where all it takes is a simple change in the config file (which is brilliantly laid out for easy editing) and the game is just a dumped DS ROM in a zip file that you can replace with any other.
Caddyshack
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Great idea, but tbh, I feel like most NES games have aged pretty horribly (Only games on this thing that'd hold up well would be the 4 Mario Bros games imo), and there's a lot of the good NES titles missing from the list there on top of that, so I'm gonna pass I think.
They ever release a SNES equivalent of this though I am in day one.
They ever release a SNES equivalent of this though I am in day one.
I don't worry too much about the darkness filter since I play my games on vivid mode (sacrilege for some, I know, but I like it) so I never notice it. But the blur filter was annoying me and found the solution that I posted.
Nothing its driving me crazy
With a vaseline smear look all over it. Yikes! But then again, this thing will have HDMI input so hoping for the best. Especially if those 30 games are going to be the only ones available for this device wich it seems like it.
Wii U has HDMI output and nes games look like shit on it.
test_account
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Thats hyperbole. But concidering that this is HDMI only, i dont see why they would release a different version.
OrbitalBeard
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This is either a placebo effect or it really is just your TV, because this doesn't work for me at all.
blu
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Not necessarily, if the picture is vertically spanning the entire frame:
240 * 3 = 720 <- integer multiplier
240 * 4.5 = 1080 <- non-integer multiplier
There is definitely a difference on my tv. I wouldn't think it would be unique to my tv as its a system setting, but maybe it is.
Yeah, I actually dislike the super sharp pixel look. It just didn't look that pixelated on standard definition CRTs.
But hopefully this comes with some image options so that everyone is happy.
OrbitalBeard
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It's probably not unique to your TV but it's certainly not a universal fix.
Chip N Chance
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no one knows why it's there, but it's likely due to that.
on the left = images taken directly from a real NES via composite out to a capture card
on the right = Wii U NES VC
There's a horrible blur filter too:
N64 games are the real travesty though, compounded with the absolute worst input lag I've ever encountered in an official release. It's shockingly bad.
and what's worse is that this is a one-catch all parameter in the emulator config file to enable the darkening/fucking up filter thats turned on for every game. Nintendo are sabotaging their own games and it's fucking baffling. Absolutely everything points to the NES Mini being the same.
I had no idea that this was a thing. In person i never noticed a thing, so i guess it doesn't really bother me that much. The only thing i've noticed is just that the colors are a little washed out. Same on Wii.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I did remember hearing that NES games don't get a blur filter on interlaced output resolutions....?
Lupin the Third
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Sorry, redundant post.
MyNameIsRye
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Dude. This is gonna be a stand alone device with 30 games for 60 bucks. Nothing more, nothing less.
Gamecocks625
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Lol.
I think there's also the idea of reducing burn-in risk.
There's still a lot of unanswered questions surrounding this device, so for you to speak to its feature set with such authority is impressing everyone. Does your uncle work for Nintendo?
But you're probably right, it would't be like Nintendo at all to have synergy between it's various product lines...
SinCityAssassin
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What are you on about? This is literally just a plug and play system. There's no real need to add amiibo functionality to it.
OrbitalBeard
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This plug-and-play stocking stuffer aimed at lapsed players in their 30's and 40's doesn't really need synergy with products like Amiibo. It'd be a complete waste of time and resources to add that type of functionality.
That being said, I do hope they throw in an NX ad in the box, alongside a coupon for a discount off the system and maybe even a code for VC versions of all 30 NES games form this package on NX, to encourage some people to check out that system when it launches. Not that I think they'll do something like this, but it'd be pretty smart and a type of product synergy that would make sense.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Why add amiibo to anything? They want to sell their dumb toys at $12.99 a pop, don't they?
As long as an NFC reader is cheap, of course it's feasible to add it. I see no reason why not.
But I don't think they have with this NES mini, or they'd have said so.
As long as an NFC reader is cheap, of course it's feasible to add it. I see no reason why not.
But I don't think they have with this NES mini, or they'd have said so.
OrbitalBeard
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Probably because the average lapsed NES fan in their 40's has absolutely zero interest in buying a Nintendo figure for $13?
Amiibo doesn't need to be shoehorned into every single Nintendo product.
And it's not just about adding an NFC reader. Nintendo would also be spending time and resources on creating Amiibo functionality that would be completely ignored by 99% of consumers purchasing this device.
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