knightfolk
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32gb cards cost 85 dollars? You must be out of your mind.
Pretty sure ha was including the cost of the game in that price.
32gb cards cost 85 dollars? You must be out of your mind.
There was a thread back in 2006 talking about the inevitability of consoles going to back cartridges. Hopefully the days of long load times are coming to an end.
I can imagine a Nintendo system where physical games are 100% amibo based. They'd sell a base package for like $50 (base game consisting of x3 amibo) with all added content for said game delivered via new amibo.
In a scenario like this the system(s) that make up the NX environment would share amibo for both home and portable consoles. Or the system could be the much rumored hybrid in which case the amibo would work at home/on the go by default.
I while back I suggested Nintendo should/would take this route. It would make sense for them because it offers something significantly different from their competitors and because it fits well with their brand.
Personally I'd like to see them to go a step farther and do something like this in tandem with offering an augmented reality focused machine. Not glasses (the tech is too expensive) but where the handheld/tablet would let each user see into the same shared augmented world. I believe a well done version of this, with a focus in local shared augmented gaming, would sell like hot cakes.
1. I'm 99.9% sure that amiibos can't hold nearly as much data as you would need so the only option is that scanning the amiibo unlocks the game on the eshop.
2. Stocking amiibos is more cumbersome for retail stores than game boxes.
3. Amiibos cost far more to make than a disc or cartridge.
I figured the system wouldn't use discs, but I didn't expect it to be like this. I wonder how they are going to achieve backwards compatibility though
I doubt they will. Unless, how powerful would the NX have to be to emulate the Wii U?
Nintendo mostly uses actual hardware for backwards compatibility. So the better question is how expensive would it have to be.
I can imagine a Nintendo system where physical games are 100% amibo based.
Thread is going a bit off the rails so I'm posting this shit again for people who honestly can't be bothered with reading the entire patent and I don't blame them
GAME CONSOLE NX
I simply "translated" the patent to the best of my ability, cutting out the fluff. There's a lot of fluff.
It's a game console! The example console has no disc drive. You connect it to a television and play video games.
The example is totally of a Digital-only console but this in no way restricts any other NX hardware to be exactly that, says patent. Digital-only can be made on the cheap tho, says patent.
Passage literally confirming NX device with disc drive (bolded is my notes):
Other hardware configs need not neccessarily include an HDD. (Like, say a portable device? Hmm?)
Has HDD, Internet, CPU, GPU, RAM, like a home console would
OS Kernel has it's own memory, and it's fast so the console can boot faster
Can check if the main OS has been tampered with by checking additional storage and restore corrupted high-security data
OS has full multitasking support
You can download games to the console
Games installed to HDD
Games have code for more than one hardware configuration and the hardware determines what code is the right one to run (NX is a platform like iOS, duh it has this)
External hard drives can be connected and you can install games to them
Can emulate different HDD read/write speeds primarily for games that have special code for external HDDs, can seemingly pretend that the HDD is an optical disc as well. SPEED CONTROL
Controller with rechargeable battery (Pro Controller?)
Interesting passages:
Controller with screen. GamePad support? Could be new controller, too. Will probably have at LEAST the functionality of the GamePad.
Can charge the GamePad equivalent by plugging it into the console.
Save files are stored on the HDD O_O OMG WOW
Bolded could be interpreted as being the oft-touted "high texture download" option.
Can read/write SD cards. This allows for retail distribution or OS updates using SD cards. Really any data that you can think of putting on an SD card, can be used. No confirmation of anything.
Digital only huh? Well I guess there's no Nintendo games in my future. I guess if they chop the price down to $2 I'll bite. Digital only to me is throwaway.
It's literally right at the end of the text you quoted that it could use carts/cards for physical retail games. Then offer digital too
I almost wonder if it could be a 3DSTV, haha. It'd be a stationary game console that doesn't use optical media that hooks up to a TV.
Would require a Wii U Tablet controller or something. Maybe a cheap SKU for people who already own a Wii U and don't need a tablet, and then one with both Tablet and Console.
It's literally right at the end of the text you quoted that it could use carts/cards for physical retail games. Then offer digital too
I almost wonder if it could be a 3DSTV, haha. It'd be a stationary game console that doesn't use optical media that hooks up to a TV.
Would require a Wii U Tablet controller or something. Maybe a cheap SKU for people who already own a Wii U and don't need a tablet, and then one with both Tablet and Console.
I can imagine a Nintendo system where physical games are 100% amibo based. They'd sell a base package for like $50 (base game consisting of x3 amibo) with all added content for said game delivered via new amibo.
In a scenario like this the system(s) that make up the NX environment would share amibo for both home and portable consoles. Or the system could be the much rumored hybrid in which case the amibo would work at home/on the go by default.
I while back I suggested Nintendo should/would take this route. It would make sense for them because it offers something significantly different from their competitors and because it fits well with their brand.
Personally I'd like to see them to go a step farther and do something like this in tandem with offering an augmented reality focused machine. Not glasses (the tech is too expensive) but where the handheld/tablet would let each user see into the same shared augmented world. I believe a well done version of this, with a focus in local shared augmented gaming, would sell like hot cakes.
If this is what Nintendo is cooking up next, you can expect it to fail miserably like the Wii U.
No disks or using proprietary carts will fail.
Yes and this is why I think they might not bother launching the console NX in Japan at all.I was just thinking about it, but didn't Iwata mention that they'd take into consideration different form factors for different regions? They could do that (I imagine that without a disc drive a system would cut down on energy usage as well)
If this is what Nintendo is cooking up next, you can expect it to fail miserably like the Wii U.
No disks or using proprietary carts will fail.
sörine;176282285 said:Yes and this is why I think they might not bother launching the console NX in Japan at all.
Why wouldn't they when Nintendo sells 70%+ of their hardware outside Japan?Then none of their games would take advantage of the extra horsepower of the NX Console, making it undesirable by consumers and developers.
If this is what Nintendo is cooking up next, you can expect it to fail miserably like the Wii U.
No disks or using proprietary carts will fail.
The only games we have slight confirmation on is SE games like DQX/XI and FF14. I don't think they'll skip Japan entirelysörine;176282285 said:Yes and this is why I think they might not bother launching the console NX in Japan at all.
sörine;176282285 said:Yes and this is why I think they might not bother launching the console NX in Japan at all.
The only games we have slight confirmation on is SE games like DQX/XI and FF14. I don't think they'll skip Japan entirely
First of all they only said they're open to the idea of porting FFXIV and second of all those games could easily be available on a handheld.
Saying that I'm not sure they would really not release the home console SKU even with Japan's depressed market.
You may not, but millions of others do.Nx console without disc and f2start (no f2p) system will be great.
I don't care disks anymore..
You really think FFXIV would be that easy for a handheld? Especially one made by Nintendo?
Yeah? FFXIV is on the PS3 too and DQX is on the 3DS(cloud based though).
I guess it's hard for me to believe that the NX Handheld will be even at PS3 levels of power, though I would love to be proven wrong
Yeah, if the handheld follows the current leaps it should be 360-level. At least between Vita and thatI don't see why it's that far fetched. It's standard gen leap from 3DS comparable to the leaps from GBA->DS->3DS. It won't match up in all aspects.
I guess it's hard for me to believe that the NX Handheld will be even at PS3 levels of power, though I would love to be proven wrong
I'm gonna go with a WiiU without a CD drive.
Digital only huh? Well I guess there's no Nintendo games in my future. I guess if they chop the price down to $2 I'll bite. Digital only to me is throwaway.
Using game cards is really smart and the perfect way to make the NX cross compatible with the portable, I'm liking this so far. I love my Gamepad so I'm happy the controller will have a screen but it also makes me nervous because they really need to be really careful to both name and brand this as differently as they can from Wii U. In line with that it'd be nice if they also make the system visually appealing and eye catching so it stands out better. Now, give me a solid launch with either enhanced Zelda U or SMG 3, a viable replacement for the VC, and some better Japanese third party (really hope DQ XI is localized) and I'm all set.
Edit: Also, I love the idea of "Nintendo Go" as a name. Dare I say it could be "the place you go" for great Nintendo content and updates straight from the source!