ElectricBlanketFire
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You're talking about GAF right?
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Nintendo "human resources" must approve your Miiverse posts (30 mins delay)
- Thread starter mocoworm
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You're talking about GAF right?
AgentChris
Member
This seems really stupid. Just have some sort of report system and ban accounts that send inappropriate messages/pictures.
Yes, have it parental controlled. Parents can turn it off for little ones and leave it open for themselves. Could also mix both together. If current user is flagged a minor then they only get the moderated comments. If not a minor they get anything instantly.
Nintendo truly are unbelievable sometimes. It could take an hour to get a reply if you're using it to ask a question. But I guess that's not what it's for??
All I can suggest is that we just spam the hell out of it ( not necessarily with rude stuff) and hopefully they will get the idea.
sakipon
Member
As long as it's a permaban per system, not just on those upcoming player profiles. That would probably slow down the offensiveness... and fill the used market with banned Wii U's.
What statements are indicative that they might? Both articles specifically mention the feed/desktop content in the same breath as the delay from human filtering.
The L.A. Times article mentions three types of gatekeeping for public messages: a pattern filter, human review, and community flagging. Community flagging makes a lot more sense if there are areas where posts don't go through human review.
For the desktop feed, too many messages isn't actually a significant failure mode. The "human resources" will be able to approve enough messages to make everybody's desktop and games look nice and active with lots of players. This will appear to work just as well even if they get totally overloaded and can't keep up with the message input. All they have to do is program the console OS to display any messages the local user posts immediately on the local machine. Most people probably will see their post amidst the others and just assume that it's been published to the cloud instantly.
base shagohod
Member
edit: dumb question, read article and answered it myself lol.
Finally, an answer to this. I was wondering how they were going to keep Miiverse clean. Now will Nintendo's HR department also correct people's atrocious spelling and grammar? I don't want to see my glorious World-style map in NSMBU polluted by cognitively challenged kids vomiting nonsense. Capitalize those proper names, kids! Punctuation marks inside quotes ("unless inside parentheses, like so")! C'mon Nintendo, make it work!
Risk Breaker
Member
Holy shit hahaha. PSN's swear filter sucks sometimes but this is an entirely new level of suckage haha.
creid
Member
This seems smart, but I don't think it'll work exactly like this. They seemed to imply that people could use this to give each other tips on tough parts of the game, and that would be pretty pointless if you could never see anything written by someone farther in the game than you. And if you think about it, whoever's farthest in the game would never have their messages seen by anyone until their friends catch up. Kind of pointless, don't you think?
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
See, it's not, though, which is why they're doing what they're doing to combat this stuff.
FrozenCell
Member
sounds like an april fools joke - oh wow nintendo..
..so this is where the savings from multitouch go
..so this is where the savings from multitouch go
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
The people suggesting "ban accounts and that will take care of it" are ridiculous.
Someone from Nintendo said the system was to allow for a large number (12?) separate accounts. Banning one of those isn't going to do anything. They'll just start another.
Someone from Nintendo said the system was to allow for a large number (12?) separate accounts. Banning one of those isn't going to do anything. They'll just start another.
Federico_612
Banned
Do you WANT to make the poor, unfortunate souls that have to work as "human resources" suffer?
The internet is the living proof that nothing omniscent can exist, it is an endless black hole of porrly drawn phalusses, grade school level spelling/grammar, and idiocy, and you want THAT to happen to them?
(lol)
Mushroomer25
Member
I understand it, but I really hope Nintendo offers an option for instant communication. Say you do want to find the answer to a puzzle on the public boards - ask the question, then have somebody add you to their friends list and immediately post the answer.
For things like the public messages on the game over screen, it's going to need censoring. That's just blatant fact. Those elements don't even really need to be 100% live anyways.
For things like the public messages on the game over screen, it's going to need censoring. That's just blatant fact. Those elements don't even really need to be 100% live anyways.
Boombloxer
Member
Think of it like a Facebook page. How much of their audience uses Facebook? You have total control over your page.
So yes, they still don't get that having a human hit "Approve" for you for millions of potential posts is a bad idea.
Karsticles
Member
Nintendo has a family-friendly image. All it needs is one dick image to get out there for 10 minutes for it to go up to news media.
storafötter
Member
Pretty much, but I somehow doubt they will go this far as they have to have people all over the world doing this and the different languages will pose a problem.
There's no way this can scale. Having done community management on a number of projects, attempts like this to moderate always fail. It's time intensive and because of that it's not good for the corporate bottom line, since it requires an ungodly amount of man hours. It also alienates you from your users and inhibits organic discussion.
I bet they drop that policy or the feature in no time.
I bet they drop that policy or the feature in no time.
Napoleonthechimp
Member
I want some degree of freedom and not to have everything I say vetted by some committee in Japan. Nintendo seems to love imposing their own morals on everyone else and it frustrates me.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
The only reason you'd be complaining right now is if you wanted the "degree of freedom" to post crudely-drawn penises and profanity, which adds nothing to the discussion about a game.
Allan Holdsworth
Member
Hope all this Miiverse crap can be turned off anyway.
Banana Kid
Member
Well, if I wanna draw penises and profanity to fuck with my friends, I should be able to. This is America, goddammit.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
Jest aside, I think you'll still be able to do this.
Haven't heard anything about friend-to-friend communication being censored and vetted.
I think Nintendo has done a lot of stupid things lately, but this is really not one of them.
BlackGhost
Banned
Nintendo sure knows how to hype down there own systems :/. This better change
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
But you WILL be able to do that to your friends. Nobody said you couldn't.
This entire moderation thing is for the public-view portions.
Let's think about what they want to do here: Create a family-friendly discussion focused on the games themselves. Without moderation, that will end up absolute chaos. It won't happen. It's a necessary evil in this case.
As long as they aren't messing with private friend-to-friend communication (and the 3DS doesn't, so I can't imagine why the Wii U would) it should be fine.
It would be great to turn on the machine to show it to my parents/girlfriend/sons and be welcomed with a wall of penises...
And even better to read a spoiler while I'm just starting the game and a lot of messages telling you what to do, how to do.... geez.
Of course it needs moderation. Oh and the second one phrase is approved it won't appear for approval again most probably
And even better to read a spoiler while I'm just starting the game and a lot of messages telling you what to do, how to do.... geez.
Of course it needs moderation. Oh and the second one phrase is approved it won't appear for approval again most probably
Jake Tower
Banned
XeroSauce
Member
Man I'd totally love to spend my day doing that. Laughing at inane jokes and banning people because they are a threat the the children
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
I wish NeoGAF offered a similar service
I'm ready to get banned
mariosbrother
Member
lol. parental controls. i would love to see a study on how much these are actually used in any context.
Edit:
I should clarify: the option should definitely exist.
We just can't help it.
dark_quota
Banned
Yay for more jobs!
Iwata was reading all the penis comments.
bodyboarder
Member
They must be hiring a hell of a lot of people for
this.
As mentioned before, a filter would be a much better idea in comparison to reading every single post.
this.
As mentioned before, a filter would be a much better idea in comparison to reading every single post.
Jake Tower
Banned
Hey, they can't be clueless for everything ^_^
Dude Abides
Banned
I was wondering how they'd deal with that issue when I saw that stuff at the conference. This doesn't seem like a very good way. Seems pretty labor-intensive for a pretty worthless feature.