Banjo64
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The Wii launched at £179 with a game, the DS £99 - the Switch truly is a beast.
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Nintendo Q1 FY 23/24 Earnings Report: Hardware 3.91M LTD 129.53M, Zelda TotK 18.51M
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zeldaring
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I really doubt it. I feel ninetndo made a mistake with releasing mario wonder and totk for switch. I don't see anything coming close to those games.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I am talking about MS and Sony. Where does it say MS and Sony claim 100% revenue instead of the 30% cut on their financial earnings reports? That does not seem kosher.
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Thirty7ven
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Nintendo should buy Sega, and I’m not even joking.
Yea that's totally true afaik (a lot of sales outside of primary markets in final years) - developing markets were big for these consoles as they came down in price all the way to 99$ (and even lower for PSOne).
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
By bunching Sony with MS and elevating Nintendo (even though they are third place in revenue every year), it minimizes how bad MS looks compared to PS/Nintendo.
Revenue’s one thing, profits are another.
There’s no denying Sony and Microsoft spend way more than Nintendo does on services, game budgets, timed exclusives, etc.
Woopah
Member
It's only for digital sales. Because if someone downloads a FIFA game on the PS Store, all the revenue goes to Sony first and then most of it gets sent to EA.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
A mistake for Nintendo would be only 20
Million units sold instead of thirty.
Zelda they could rerelease with some enhancements, and an added piece of content and sell millions.
They could master Wind Waker again and make a boatload.
They have so many monster, evergreen franchises that they can get by without a new Zelda or Mario at launch. Something like Smash Bros would easily be a killer app for them. Especially with their rabid fanbase.
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zeldaring
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I'm just not sure what's the incentive of gonna be of picking up switch 2 but
Well I was replying to the poster saying they will steam roll the competition with switch 2. with them releasing zelda and 2d mario which are now there biggest franchises, its not likely to happen they do good regardless though.
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kazuyamishima
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I don’t think this is true. Sony/MS gets 30% of the price and the publisher the other 70% simple as that.
UltimaKilo
Gold Member
They have had their best year in software, with that, it will continue drive hardware sales. Next quarter will likely surpass this one before they start to lose steam. The numbers show that their sales are picking up, rather than slowing down.
Woopah
Member
Sony counts 100% of the digital sale as revenue, and their 30% cut as profit.
Whereas Nintendo counts their 30% cut as revenue and profit.
So in terms of profit they count it the same. The only difference is in revenue.
Kataploom
Gold Member
You pay taxes over profits instead of revenues iirc
Victor Omega
Member
How does Microsoft and Sony fight over Call of duty while Nintendo dominates
Deerock71
Member
TotK 3D. Exclusive 1st person mode. DLSS for 4K. Oh. The possibilities are there.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
The incentive is to play Nintendo first party games.
Also, Zelda and Mario aren’t the biggest…
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe: 55.46m + 1.67m
Animal Crossing NH: 42.79m + 580k
Smash Bros Ultimate: 31.77m + 680k
Zelda BOTW: 30.65m + 840k
Super Mario Odyssey: 26.44m + 680k
Pokémon Sword/Shield: 25.92m + 100k
Pokémon Scarlet/Violet: 22.66m + 560k
Super Mario Party: 19.39m + 250k
Zelda TOTK: 18.51m NEW
New Super Mario Bros. U DX: 16.17m + 760k
A new Smash is all they’d need.
zeldaring
Banned
I think every one who a wanted totk would have picked it up, and remaster won't be a system seller imo. it's a massive single player that game that will burn most people out by the end of it.
zeldaring
Banned
the creator of smash said a new one wont be coming out for a long time. animal crossing won't coming near launch as well for switch 2 and that leaves mario kart which will probably cross gen IDK well see.
I do think that launching with Animal Crossing + Metroid Prime 4 is gonna be huge. Than later that launch window a 3D mario.
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JordiENP
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Mario kart 9, new 3d Mario with beautiful visuals. They'll be fine.
zeldaring
Banned
Will be interesting to see if they will be cross gen or only on Switch 2
cartman414
Member
How did DS fare following the 3DS launch? (I know this is bearing in mind the slow start of the latter.)
Fatal Fury Neo Geo, not sure which installment. Geese Howard is great.
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
nordique
Member
Crazy zelda sales only comparison is RDR2 and GTA5.
RDR2 23 million in 2 months.
GTA5 still in a league of it's own with 29 million in 6 weeks.
Although saying that has outsold Hogwarts Legacy yet.Interesting to see how that plays out the rest of the year.
Yes, let’s downplay the success of one game on one platform by making a comparison that misses the point
zeldaring
Banned
I don't mean they won't be fine but i feel zelda is there biggest strongest ip in terms of moving consoles I think they will do great just wont be steam rolling playstation 5 sales.
fatal fury 3,m.bison,shoa khan, Rugal, Seth, judgment, you know they might be your final opponent, but only Geese Howard is the BOSS.
Handel
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Is your name zeldaring because Zelda lives rent free in your head?
Switched topped NPD for most of it's lifespan, it's successor is likely to be at the top for most months as well when it launches and has a new 3D Mario day one. Just something people are going to have to accept, all the while they cry about how it "doesn't count".
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there is a good chance Nintendo will fuck it up. They've done it before.
I would wait to see what is the Switch 2 before making predictions.
zeldaring
Banned
Yea wii did the same and wiiu failed bombed. not saying this will happen with switch 2 but predicting a generation to pan out just like the previous is hit ot miss especiallywith Nintendo. GTA6 might come out and blow everything away and give massive boost to current and take the spot light away from switch 2 many scenarios are possible
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Alan Wake
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I'll crawl in the dust once again admitting how wrong I was about this system. Looking back at GAF in early 2017 I wasn't alone, though. The system felt overpriced and unappealing to me at the time. I finally bought one and have 10-15 games for it, and it's fine. But not more than that. And then after traveling by car with my 5 year old son I get it.
James Sawyer Ford
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Nintendo literally carries their own consoles, is this surprising? There’s no competition on switch lol
They’re monstrous sales for sure, but Sony ain’t a slouch with SM selling 30M+ and other titles hitting high teens to 20M+
Boy bawang
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It's already the most successful console of all times, considering that there never was a price cut; and arguably a price increase even as the OLED is the most sold SKU since its release.
The DS and PS2 were practically gifted in cereal boxes towards the end of their lives.
The DS and PS2 were practically gifted in cereal boxes towards the end of their lives.
Robb
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Feels like Sony is already there both in terms of unit sales and the fact that the games keep selling over time imo.
Next step would “just” be to keep those titles full price throughout I guess. And to make them for less than 1/3 of their current budget (both of which I hope don’t happen).
Banjo64
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Agreed, but never to this extent. These figures are unprecedented.
That’s true but the comment was that Sony and Microsoft can’t compete, and when you look at the sheer volume of 30m and 20m plus sellers on the Switch, with even their mid tier exclusives racking up 10m-15m sales, all at full price - I agree with the comment.
Luminoth-4545
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Hardware sales were actually better than the shipped numbers imply during this quarter. The sell-through of hardware was marginally higher than April to June 2021 (FY2022 below) even though the shipped (sell-in) numbers are 540k less (3.91m versus 4.45m), so the only reason shipments are not in the 4.5 million range this quarter must be because of excess stock from overshipping in previous quarters. Nintendo also states that the America's and Europe regions declined in shipments year over year but were up in sell-through.
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Luminoth-4545
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Sony state it in their report that revenue includes 100% of third party digital sales and Playstation 4 and 5 currently have a very high ratio of digital to physical sales. It's revenue in name only though, they are only paying tax on their 30% cut.
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The artful mincer
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That's one way to interpretate it.
Another way to interpretate it is showing how big it has truly become by comparing it too the 2 biggest single player games perhaps ever.
It's was meant as a compliment....
Luminoth-4545
Member
Regional hardware
Regional software
Hardware milestones: Japan passes 30 million and America's passes 50 million, Other passes 15 million and America's outshipped in a quarter for the first time ever.
Software milestones: highest ever global Q1, highest ever America's Q1 and highest ever Q1 and quarter in general by Other.
Regional software
Hardware milestones: Japan passes 30 million and America's passes 50 million, Other passes 15 million and America's outshipped in a quarter for the first time ever.
Software milestones: highest ever global Q1, highest ever America's Q1 and highest ever Q1 and quarter in general by Other.
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Woopah
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The Other software figure is shocking. TOTK must have been incredibly popular in the smaller markets.Regional hardware
Regional software
Hardware milestones: Japan passes 30 million and America's passes 50 million, America's outshipped in a quarter for the first time ever.
Software milestones: highest ever global Q1, highest ever America's Q1 and highest ever Q1 and quarter in general by Other.
Luminoth-4545
Member
Agree, to have your best quarter for software outside the holiday quarter is exceptional. Having said that the Other region had it's previous best software quarter in Q4 which was when Pokemon Legends Arceus launched.
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NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
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I was one of the few that thought it would do great the moment they showed the system for the first time
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MirageMew2
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Any particular reason Bayonetta, XBC, and Splatoon are all trailing behind their predecessors? Hell, even Legends Arceus just beneath BDSP is criminal.
Woopah
Member
Could that may be because of China, which doesn't have the usual Q3 Christmas boost other countries have?
Mostly because of time. The others have been out longer and benefitted from Switch's peak years.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Having a significant number of 20+M sellers is competing pretty well, especially when those titles also have to compete with third party
It’s kinda like saying Nintendo can’t compete with Take2 just because GTA sells 100M and Nintendo has nothing close, kind of an irrelevant comment lacking context