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[Mozza]

Yeah. The dream is definitely dead to surpass the PS2, unless Nintendo cuts the price and makes the remaining units $149 or something. But at this point, they'd rather you buy a Switch 2 instead.
Also, the Switch DID ultimately reach the PS2 sales that were taken for granted for a decade before Jim Ryan pulled the 160 million card. And it did so without any definitive price cut, and without multimedia capabilities.

I hope they cut the price lol....... the threads and meltdowns on here will be epic.

 

[TKOFromTokyo]

The sales are great. BUT I would have expected higher holidays sales considering the momentum it had built up.

Not beating the SW1 first year holiday is strange (and that was one of SW1's lowest holidays).

Possible causes:

demand had begun to saturate by holiday;

higher prices;

heavily-discounted PS5;

more competition (inc. Nex);

no Mario/Zelda;

(and Espana obviously).

I agree that the results compared to Switch's 1st holiday sales are disappointing. Keep in mind holiday sales in the US were the worst in decades. I'm curious to see if high console prices continue to tamp down console sales in general. If so, it's not good for the Switch 2 long term.

 

[Kerotan]

I always remember that legendary thread predicting if the Switch would be a success with most people saying "nah, it will bomba"

Seems the Switch 2 GAF predictions are going down a similar pat

I was one of the few who shit all over the Wii U and didn't say the Switch would bomb.

Anyway good numbers, it's absolutely insane that Japan is a bigger market for this then America and Europe.

Switch 1 is losing stream fast. Will it be able to sell another 5 or 6 million? It's looking harder.

 

[subzero83]

Holiday was slower than Switch 1's first holiday quarter as expected.

Good results regardless, but them not changing the forecast from 19m is strange.

That means they are only expecting to ship around 1.63m this quarter? The Switch 1 shipped 2.93m the same quarter in 2018.

Cleary they over shipped for the holidays. 15 million sold through and 2.5 million sitting on shelves. This quarter will show sales momentum really slowing down.

 

[LordOcidax]

Cleary they over shipped for the holidays. 15 million sold through and 2.5 million sitting on shelves. This quarter will show sales momentum really slowing down.

 

[videogamedude]

ok ok, but what about spain?

 

[Luminoth-4545]

Basically this shows the weakness of Q3

It was carried by Japan, when the rest of the world held back
LTD region split for Switch2 is roughly the same as Switch1 (America slightly behind)
But Q3 Japan is ahead of everyone, America continue to underperform, Europe fallen back by 30% and for rest of the world practically pulled out falling from 50% to 25% of Japan sales

Japan did some heavy lifting relative to the Americas which is usually far and away Nintendo's strongest region. A comparison to OG Switch's first holiday quarter below. Note: The Europe and Other regions weren't separated until 2018, so I grouped them together for Switch 2 for a like for like comparison.

Japan
Switch: 1.77m Switch 2: 2.43m
Americas
Switch: 2.82m Switch 2: 2.30m
Europe + Other
Switch: 2.64m Switch 2: 2.27m
Global
Switch: 7.23m Switch 2: 7.01m

 

[Sakura]

Sony has its results in 9 days, if it does more than 7 then Sony has outsole SW2 this holidays and the Spain sales are just a reflection of that.

Nintendo did a shit ton of sales in Japan though which Sony doesn't have, so I think it would be difficult for Sony to have outsold the SW2 for the holidays globally.

 

[touchfuzzy]

not surprised about Prime 4 underperforming but I am surprised about Hyrule Warriors

Koei Tecmo themselves said it sold over 1 million, which is decent for a $70 USD, Switch 2 exclusive musou. Not great for having the Zelda license but I'm guessing they didn't lose money.

Hyrule Warriors: Age of Imprisonment shipments and digital sales top one million

Total shipments and digital sales for Hyrule Warriors: Age of Imprisonment have surpassed one million units, Japanese publisher Koei Tecmo and developer AAA Games Studio announced.

www.gematsu.com

Metroid Prime 4 though, yikes.

 

[Luminoth-4545]

Did Hyrule Warriors underperform? It was announced as selling >1M in Koei Tecmo's FYQ3 results iirc. I'm not sure why Nintendo didn't include it here since they usually include all titles that sold at least 1M.

But maybe that's still worse than expected (?).

Hyrule Warriors Age of Calamity sold 4 million in it's first couple of months, so that's what i'm comparing it to.

 

[Baemono]

Nintendo did a shit ton of sales in Japan though which Sony doesn't have, so I think it would be difficult for Sony to have outsold the SW2 for the holidays globally.

I expect pretty much the same result for the PS5 (aka 7 million shipped)

 

[subzero83]

Japan did some heavy lifting relative to the Americas which is usually far and away Nintendo's strongest region. A comparison to OG Switch's first holiday quarter below. Note: The Europe and Other regions weren't separated until 2018, so I grouped them together for Switch 2 for a like for like comparison.

Japan
Switch: 1.77m Switch 2: 2.43m
Americas
Switch: 2.82m Switch 2: 2.30m
Europe + Other
Switch: 2.64m Switch 2: 2.27m
Global
Switch: 7.23m Switch 2: 7.01m

As we can see here, spain was right all along, massive slow down in western countries, if japan slows down a bit, mamma mia.

 

[Deerock71]

Let's see the spin doctors!

My 2 cents: For all of you doubters, there are still literally tens of millions of active Switch users that haven't made the jump yet. When they see the barrage of 3rd parties bringing games to the 2, making the jump seems all the more likely to them. That should give you night sweats if you hate Nintendo.

 

[Kilau]

Is it okay if I want all these companies to fail?

 

[TKOFromTokyo]

Japan did some heavy lifting relative to the Americas which is usually far and away Nintendo's strongest region. A comparison to OG Switch's first holiday quarter below. Note: The Europe and Other regions weren't separated until 2018, so I grouped them together for Switch 2 for a like for like comparison.

Japan
Switch: 1.77m Switch 2: 2.43m
Americas
Switch: 2.82m Switch 2: 2.30m
Europe + Other
Switch: 2.64m Switch 2: 2.27m
Global
Switch: 7.23m Switch 2: 7.01m

Honestly, the 50% increase in price vs Switch 1 is a lot to swallow for casuals.

 

[Mozza]

As we can see here, spain was right all along, massive slow down in western countries, if japan slows down a bit, mamma mia.

Like I keep saying......... take some time off lol.

 

[LordOcidax]

As we can see here, spain was right all along, massive slow down in western countries, if japan slows down a bit, mamma mia.

Keep trolling

 

[videogamedude]

As we can see here, spain was right all along, massive slow down in western countries, if japan slows down a bit, mamma mia.

thank you

 

[subzero83]

Keep trolling

Yea using factual numbers is trolling, its clearly slowing down in western countries and the numbers are there for you to look at.

 

[Baemono]

Yea using factual numbers is trolling, its clearly slowing down in western countries and the numbers are there for you to look at.

Gregg Easterbrook, a well-known journalist and author, is often credited with coining the phrase, "Torture numbers, and they'll confess to anything." This statement speaks to the idea that statistics and data can be manipulated or misrepresented to support a particular agenda or viewpoint

 

[LordOcidax]

Yea using factual numbers is trolling, its clearly slowing down and the numbers are there for you to look at.

 

[MisterXDTV]

As we can see here, spain was right all along, massive slow down in western countries, if japan slows down a bit, mamma mia.

They won't listen.

They are using "the fastest ever to sell X millions" when the original Switch was supply constrained in its first year, while the Switch 2 never has been since Day 1

Right now Switch 2 has great numbers in Japan, that's it

In the West PS5 is already outselling it despite having launched almost 5 years earlier

These are facts...

 

[Sakura]

I expect pretty much the same result for the PS5 (aka 7 million shipped)

Maybe with it being shipped and all, but the sales for the 3 months in the US are down about 1 million YoY according to the circana threads, I imagine Europe is similar, and Japan is down too. I would be surprised if the PS5 had outdone the Switch 2 in Q3.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Where are the graph comparisons to other top selling consoles?

 

[LordOcidax]

The amount of salt in this thread is epic, good for the skin

 

[Baemono]

Maybe with it being shipped and all, but the sales for the 3 months in the US are down about 1 million YoY according to the circana threads, I imagine Europe is similar, and Japan is down too. I would be surprised if the PS5 had outdone the Switch 2 in Q3.

It had huge sales for most of the quarter, so we'll see

 

[Mozza]

Yea using factual numbers is trolling, its clearly slowing down in western countries and the numbers are there for you to look at.

Well in the face of all the evidence to the contrary, the basic unwillingness to look at the facts will always be best lol..

 

[tkscz]

Switch 1 just needs 6 million more sales. Just 6 million more.

 

[Mozza]

The amount of salt in this thread is epic, good for the skin

I have gone to check the on the crows..

 

[Mozza]

They won't listen.

They are using "the fastest ever to sell X millions" when the original Switch was supply constrained in its first year, while the Switch 2 never has been since Day 1

Right now Switch 2 has great numbers in Japan, that's it

In the West PS5 is already outselling it despite having launched almost 5 years earlier

These are facts...

I am sure we have been here before. But please feel free to keep moving those goalposts lol...

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Yea using factual numbers is trolling, its clearly slowing down in western countries and the numbers are there for you to look at.

Which Western countries?

2025 PS5 12 month vs Switch 2 7 month NA sales?

2025 PS5 12 month vs Switch 2 7 month UK sales?

I'd like to see the numbers here.

 

[subzero83]

They won't listen.

They are using "the fastest ever to sell X millions" when the original Switch was supply constrained in its first year, while the Switch 2 never has been since Day 1

Right now Switch 2 has great numbers in Japan, that's it

In the West PS5 is already outselling it despite being launched almost 5 years earlier

These are facts...

Look at spain week 4 sales, its selling same number as switch 1 in its 8th year. look at november+ December NPD sold less then switch 1 last year, yet everything is fine. This is nothing against switch 2. consoles sales are going down and ps5 is only doing fine cause it lost its main competition xbox.

 

[Baemono]

Right now Switch 2 has great numbers in Japan, that's it

Selling almost 2/3 of the Xbox Series installed base in 10 months but that's basically a success in Japan, wow

In the West PS5 is already outselling it despite having launched almost 5 years earlier

These are facts...

Since you like to compare facts, the Switch 1 sold 15 million in 2017, the PS4, despite having launched almost 5 years earlier, sold 20 million in the same year.

That's a fact.

And what is also a fact: console sales follow a Bell's curve, they peak between year 3 and 5 and then go down.

 

[subzero83]

Which Western countries?

2025 PS5 12 month vs Switch 2 7 month NA sales?

2025 PS5 12 month vs Switch 2 7 month UK sales?

I'd like to see the numbers here.

comparing launches is meaningless when no one ever has enough stock at launch. we are comparing the holidays, and momentum going forward.

 

[Mozza]

Look at spain week 4 sales, its selling same number as switch 1 in its 8th year. look at november+ December NPD sold less then switch 1 last year, yet everything is fine. This is nothing against switch 2. consoles sales are going down and ps5 is only doing fine cause it lost its main competition xbox.

Spain hardly sells any consoles, so whoever wins is not gaining all that much lol..

 

[LakeOf9]

Numbers will slow down any day now, GAF assured me

 

[Baemono]

Numbers will slow down any day now, GAF assured me

Well the sales are already dead in Spain, and the console only sells in Japan apparently, so yeah pretty much dead

 

[Felessan]

Japan did some heavy lifting relative to the Americas which is usually far and away Nintendo's strongest region. A comparison to OG Switch's first holiday quarter below. Note: The Europe and Other regions weren't separated until 2018, so I grouped them together for Switch 2 for a like for like comparison.

Japan
Switch: 1.77m Switch 2: 2.43m
Americas
Switch: 2.82m Switch 2: 2.30m
Europe + Other
Switch: 2.64m Switch 2: 2.27m
Global
Switch: 7.23m Switch 2: 7.01m

Funny thing is that "Spain" (Europe) are more loyal to Switch than others

	Japan	America	Europe	Other
Switch Q3	24%	39%	37%	incl in Europe
Switch LTD	25%	38%	26%	12%
Switch2 LTD	28%	34%	24%	14%
Switch2 Q3	35%	33%	24%	8%

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

comparing launches is meaningless when no one ever has enough stock at launch. we are comparing the holidays, and momentum going forward.

I didn't say launch I said 2025 sales.
If you also want to compare PS5's 2020 NA and UK launch numbers vs SW 2 that won't help your spin either.

People still have to buy said product so Nintendo putting more on the shelves is a gamble that only works with a good product.
Obviously SW2 offers a more popular product.

 

[MisterXDTV]

Selling almost 2/3 of the Xbox Series installed base in 10 months but that's basically a success in Japan, wow

Xbox Series is one of the biggest failures of all-time and MS is leaving the console market because of it

How exactly is that impressive???

LOL

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Xbox Series is one of the biggest failures of all-time and MS is leaving the console market because of it

How exactly is that impressive???

LOL

It sold good initially.

 

[LordOcidax]

Xbox Series is one of the biggest failures of all-time and MS is leaving the console market because of it

How exactly is that impressive???

LOL

Agree with you, selling over 17 million of consoles in 7 months is not impressive at all…

 

[MisterXDTV]

It sold good initially.

Who cares about initially?

Series consoles sold like shit since PS5 became available on shelves

And like half of those sales are from the cheap-ass Series S that was available for $200 at some point

 

[subzero83]

I didn't say launch I said 2025 sales.
If you also want to compare PS5's 2020 NA and UK launch numbers vs SW 2 that won't help your spin either.

People still have to buy said product so Nintendo putting more on the shelves is a gamble that only works with a good product.
Obviously SW2 offers a more popular product.

Take out the launch and switch 2 is not selling much better then switch 1 in western countries last year if you think that's not momentum slowing down that's on you but its Cleary a valid opinion to have.

Americas 1.71m, Europe 1.48m, Other 430k 2024 Q3 switch 1 8 years in.
Americas 2.30m, Europe 1.70m, Other 0.57m Q3

And this is with Nintendo over stuffing the channels for its first holidays in western countries its cleary slowing down.

 

[Mozza]

"They are coming"

They are already here...... and as usual not covering themselves in glory lol..

 

[MisterXDTV]

Agree with you, selling over 17 million of consoles in 7 months is not impressive at all…

I would say it should be considered "normal", not a miracle, being the first Nintendo console released in 8+ fucking years

 

[Mozza]

Take out the launch and switch 2 is not selling much better then switch 1 in western countries last year if you think that's not momentum slowing down that's on you but its Cleary a valid opinion to have.

Americas 1.71m, Europe 1.48m, Other 430k 2024 Q3 switch 1 8 years in.
Americas 2.30m, Europe 1.70m, Other 0.57m Q3

And this is with Nintendo over stuffing the channels for its first holidays in western countries its cleary slowing down.

Just because you keep repeating things, does not make them any more true lol..

 

[RomanceDawn]

Am I reading right? Switch 1 sold 7.23M in its first holiday period versus Switch 2's 7.01M? Is that what all the hysteria is about? Subzero we gotta talk.

 

[mèx]

I was resigned to eat a bland dinner since I forgot to buy table salt yesterday, but thankfully this thread is overflowing with the much needed seasoning.

 

[LordOcidax]

Take out the launch and switch 2 is not selling much better then switch 1 in western countries last year if you think that's not momentum slowing down that's on you but its Cleary a valid opinion to have.

Americas 1.71m, Europe 1.48m, Other 430k 2024 Q3
Americas 2.30m, Europe 1.70m, Other 0.57m Q3 switch 1 8 years in

And this is with Nintendo over stuffing the channels for its first holidays in western countries its cleary slowing down.

You are going to end like the old Sweettooth if you continue that path… This thread is about global sells, ignoring that the Japanese market exists to fuel your argument is going to guide you to dark places.