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Nintendo should retire Mario, Zelda and Metroid
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CoffeeJanitor
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They do need to expand their 'big' franchises. While the games are great they haven't done anything new at Pikmins level in a while. Or at least not often.
Peter Bazooka
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CaptainTiptop
Member
They should just make a new freaking F-Zero game already. C'mon.
evilromero
Member
How is this trolling when the OP wants Nintendo to grow and diversify?
MikeE21286
Member
What else do they have?
I am OK with discussing this premise, but they make up their core business.
Seems unreasonable without other proven hits.
I am OK with discussing this premise, but they make up their core business.
Seems unreasonable without other proven hits.
Pachterballs
Banned
I would buy animal crossing if it lost all the animals and had mario/nintendo characters in it.
Glass Rebel
Member
Do they need to be?
Well that's where Metroid seems to be.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
Because its stupid to completely retire the franchises that make them money while totally banking their future on IPs that they don't know if people will respond well to.
Its a good thing you don't run a business.
I never understand why NIntendo is constantly requested to put their franchices to rest when the rest of the industry and first parties usually stop only when they burn into the ground? vWhy dont they make Socom games anymore? or Resistance? Or Viva Piñata?. NIntendo has done an amazing job keeping these franchises alive and profitable for 25+ years with a good mix of innovation, tradition, marketing and timing. Why stop?
because you totally weren't aiming for it. Yeah.
dreamer3kx
Member
Mario Kart Wii is the best selling racing game of all time.
Zelda Twilight Princess (both Wii and GCN) is the second best selling Zelda ever (after Ocarina of Time).
And both NSMB DS and NSMB Wii have both passed the 20 million sales mark, each.
These past 10 years have not been a decline at all. It was a rebirth.
We dont get a lot of Metroid and new Console Metroids are like every 5 years.
Why do people like these always conveniently forget that Nintendo does put out new IPs consistently, but they all bomb?
VeryGooster
Banned
I didn't really expect a sequel to Dillon's Rolling Western. I didn't give the game much of a chance and might do that eventually. Maybe Nintendo has plans for that as a franchise.
stopped reading here
Interceptor
Banned
Mario Kart came out more than 20 years ago.
The Nintendo fans on this forum are a perfect reflection of the company itself, dogmatic, conservative, and absolutely resistant to change.
MARRY ME!
That Snes translated one was one of the best adventure games i have ever played. Infact t is number one!
Nocturnowl
Member
I've said it before and i'll say it again, i'll never understand why Metroid of all things gets grouped in with Mario and Zelda in the overly used Nintendo franchise department.
It's never held the same levels of sale success, it was dormant for an entire generation with far less titles overall.
Meanwhile Pokemon is still a juggernaut that Nintendo do rely a lot on, hell Kirby gets more use than Metroid these days.
It's never held the same levels of sale success, it was dormant for an entire generation with far less titles overall.
Meanwhile Pokemon is still a juggernaut that Nintendo do rely a lot on, hell Kirby gets more use than Metroid these days.
Snegurochka
Neo Member
op are u high rn?
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I was just using that as an example. I was playing the NES version earlier today so the name is still in my head.
Regulus Tera
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olimpia84
Member
I could care less. I play games to have fun.
Shadow Hog
Member
All I have to say.
(They should definitely try to make more original character-based titles, of course.)
(They should definitely try to make more original character-based titles, of course.)
doniewhalberg
Member
I love that OP's slant on this is, declining sales, should retire games. Even if we accept up front that sales have been going down for ten years without questioning that for a minute, I like that it's not "These well loved, critically acclaimed games have declining sales, more people should try them out and/or buy them". No, we fly past objectivism, or as an example plenty think NSMBU is a really good fun engaging game, albeit a little too soon after the last installment, and land straight on "If sales go down, it should die." I'd love to see how OP won't contradict this in the future with one of their favourites.
The Lamonster
Member
But those are the only reasons I still care about Nintendo.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
It was fucking amazing. Too bad that all of Nintendo's current writers are shite.
heh, yeah Metroid doesn't really fit with the other two too much
but of course Mario is the one people mean when they say this...
The Wheel of Fortune
Member
Me. I'm an Ice Climber fanboy.
On topic, retire Metroid? lol retire from what? We want more Metroid games, not less;
No need to mess with Zelda,
And it would be cool if Nintendo would give a vacation to the NSMB series. I'd be OK with that.
Brainiac 8
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Nope...three of the best franchises in gaming.
ThatObviousUser
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Well, Metroid has probably been retired, at least for the foreseeable future.
Not many of your other points make very much sense, though. It's like complaining every James Bond movie has him smanging women and shooting bad guys.
Also, Galaxy is the best Mario game, SM3DL is the best handheld Mario, and NSMBU has great level design. Mario's definitely not on a decline. What did we get in the N64 and GC eras? A good open world first-attempt 3D Mario, a lackluster followup, and a bunch of ports for the GBA. Lame.
Zelda's a harder case to argue against, though. But they do change things up each game, in SS most of all. And they're supposedly going to go even further in the next game if Aonuma is to be believed (I'm not sure I do, but some of what he's said about making dungeon progression nonlinear is enticing.)
ThatStupidLion
Member
no. but i do think they should slow down the whoring of those franchises and develope some new stuff/ revive some others...
perfectchaos007
Member
Has Disney ditched Mickey Mouse?
Has DC gotten rid of Batman?
Has Coca-Cola canned Santa Clause?
These are company staples that still work, and they are all much much older than Mario/Zelda/Metroid.
Has DC gotten rid of Batman?
Has Coca-Cola canned Santa Clause?
These are company staples that still work, and they are all much much older than Mario/Zelda/Metroid.
So first the OP says that sales dictate that they should kill of those franchises, and when that was debunked he pulls out the tired old 'everybody who doesn't agree with me is just a Nintendo fanboy'.
It's also strange that whenever Nintendo does something to separate itself from the competition, they're dismissed as gimmicks, but somehow that shit all goes out the window when it's time to complain about them.
Nintendo have their faults - massive faults but this shit is getting old. There's plenty of valid points to complain about when it comes to Nintendo. Why complain in a way that doesn't make sense?
Chuckpebble
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I love NeoGAF so much. I can't quit you baby, no matter how hard I try.
OP, Nintendo does create new IP's such as Style Savy. However, for many people on this board, games of that variety do not fall within their target audience. That's why you appear so jaded.
Plus this is a Nintendo Direct, and I expect E3 with the Wii U will be the time/system of focus for more "hardcore" game reveals.
Plus this is a Nintendo Direct, and I expect E3 with the Wii U will be the time/system of focus for more "hardcore" game reveals.
Do we really need another Other M?
I prefer Metroid to stay dead if that's the alternative.
This topic is supremely dumb though
