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Nintendo should retire Mario, Zelda and Metroid
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Yeah, I would say so:
Wii sports is iirc the best selling game of all time, and even in Japan (where it was never bundled) it had very impressive sales, so that's definitely a 'big hitter' from a sales perspective
From a critical perspective, Xenoblade Chronicles is a 'big hitter'. It's technically a new IP as the 'xeno' prefix was just added to honour Takahashi iirc.
What genre of game is Nintendo unable to make due not having a broad enough library of characters to fill it with? How will retiring the Mario, Zelda and Metroid brands help them make different titles than they're making now? And how does Nintendo's use of the same characters have any bearing on what your stereotypical "Nintendo fans on this forum" want?
They've got a new Pikmin coming out for WiiU.
Hellsing321
Member
This is the only image that can adequately describe my reaction to reading the OP.
anotherVegan
Member
This.
Look OP !
They like should ... like ... RETIRE MARIO AND ALL !
And then ... they should like .... wait for it ..... GO THIRD PARTY ON MOBILE !!!!!
YES !!!!
Ice Climber, F-Zero, Game & Watch and the likes will sell like HOTCAKES on IOS !!!!
They can turn Gourmet Race into a Temple Run clone, Ice Climber into those auto jumper games and ....
Nintendo will totaly NOT be doomed after this !!!!!!!!1111one =D
OMFG CAN YOU IMAGE THE SALES OF A BIT GENERATIONS PORT FOR ANDROID ???? =O
and ... STARFY FOR IOS !!!!
EVERYONE loves a good water stage ... so a game FULL of then for a device EVERYONE has is PERFECT !!!!
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They like should ... like ... RETIRE MARIO AND ALL !
And then ... they should like .... wait for it ..... GO THIRD PARTY ON MOBILE !!!!!
YES !!!!
Ice Climber, F-Zero, Game & Watch and the likes will sell like HOTCAKES on IOS !!!!
They can turn Gourmet Race into a Temple Run clone, Ice Climber into those auto jumper games and ....
Nintendo will totaly NOT be doomed after this !!!!!!!!1111one =D
OMFG CAN YOU IMAGE THE SALES OF A BIT GENERATIONS PORT FOR ANDROID ???? =O
and ... STARFY FOR IOS !!!!
EVERYONE loves a good water stage ... so a game FULL of then for a device EVERYONE has is PERFECT !!!!
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MiamiWesker
Member
Zelda dungeons?????? What??? You mean the absolute best aspect. The areas where no other action adventure game even comes close to the expert level design of these dungeons. The dungeons showcase the best gameplay in a Zelda game, seriously what is wrong with you.
Wiz
Member
And ask OP how many of them he bought.
Holy crap. A thoughtful response. Thank you!
I would argue that these characters still make it easier to sort of "tune out" the company though. I.e., here's another Mario game, here's another Zelda game. Whether by the press or the gaming public. A reinvented character lineup (putting Mario, Zelda and Metriod on the backburner for at least a few years) challenges both the company and it's public perception. It's the shakeup the company needs.
ShockingAlberto
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vagabondarts
Member
change for changes sake doesn't make it a badge of honor.
Get over yourself. What did you think was going to happen when you started this thread?
Obviously not as many people as you thought agree with you, so now we are all ultra conservative traditionalists facing down your enlightened liberalism?
Get out of here.
Meccanical
Member
Retire Metroid?
FOOL THEY ALREADY KILLED IT WITH OTHER M
THERE IS NO RETIRE
IT'S GONE
DEAD
KAPUT
FOOL THEY ALREADY KILLED IT WITH OTHER M
THERE IS NO RETIRE
IT'S GONE
DEAD
KAPUT
I just felt like hyperbolizing for a while, but seriously, leave Metroid out of this
Pachterballs
Banned
EPIC BOMBAMICKEY
yeah, probably never see another fzero.
another code is probably done+dusted forever. It was never a tentpole
not retired. megaman 10, 9.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I'd argue the opposite. The only way Nintendo gets anyone to pay attention is by putting their biggest characters in games. The press will basically ignore any IP from Nintendo that is not something they are known for.
yep seems so
grimshawish
Banned
Nintendo goes through a period of resurgence for the Mario IP and now OP wants to murder the man?
shinobi602
Member
Yes? Nintendo shouldn't just keep rehashing the same IPs, even though each entry is a great game by any measure.
They should strive to put out new, heavy duty IPs. These little bite-size IPs can only go so far. They need to keep adding to their roster, imo.
Gully State
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Nintendo should retire Mario/Zelda/Metro and go back to making hand made Hanafuda cards and opening Love Hotels..
And there's only been one on each console, they aren't flooding the market with a new release every year. Also, the game has continued to improve and shown remarkable chance taking from Nintendo (Double Kart).
Nemesis121
Member
Those games are still printing money...WTF is wrong with you OP?
megabytecr
Member
New IPs, I am in. I would love a Miyamoto produced FPS.
Retiring those IPs, Hell no!!!
Retiring those IPs, Hell no!!!
ThatObviousUser
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I don't see why they're mutually exclusive. Nintendo is still putting out new IPs (Dillon's Rolling Western, HarmoKnight, and Crashmo immediately come to mind after today's ND.) I can see your point about them making a big tentpole new IP (maybe on something the level of The Last of Us?) but Nintendo's already hurting right now, and relying on an IP allows them to focus their creativity a little better. For instance, instead of making an entirely new cast of characters, setting, story, and mechanics for a new platformer, they can use Mario -- it won't be as fresh feeling, but it allows them to focus on making creative level designs. There's actually at least some creative value in using a template.
I NEED SCISSORS
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Metroid maybe - if they are not gonna make Dread, if Retro aren't making any more Prime games, and if Other M is what's gonna become of the series going forward.
I thought you made a serious post then I saw this.
Barry Burton
Member
Not retire, but I'm absolutely in favor of scaling way back on them, particularly Mario. I mean, they've always whored Mario, but it seems more glaring now than it ever was before, because they are leaving several of their other IPs on the backburner at the same time.
Holy Order Sol
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The sad thing is that you believe you deserve something else.
Nintendo should not retire the IPs mentioned. However I would like Nintendo to make a lot of new characters/IPs in the vein of Kirby, Mario, Fox, Link, Sonic, Olimar etc.
It seems videogame companies have given up on cartoony 90's style characters but instead trying to make Hollywood movies as games that take itself too seriously.
Edit to add: Nintendo should buy the Banjo Kazooie IP and take a shot at reviving it or have Retro take a shot.
It seems videogame companies have given up on cartoony 90's style characters but instead trying to make Hollywood movies as games that take itself too seriously.
Edit to add: Nintendo should buy the Banjo Kazooie IP and take a shot at reviving it or have Retro take a shot.
brandonh83
Banned
These things are more than games, they're historical icons within the entertainment medium. I look forward to Zelda games, not just for the awesome gameplay and exploration, but because it means a lot to me and has for over 20 years. I get damn near teary eyed every time I read Miyamoto's introductory in Hyrule Historia. Reading through that and looking at all the work that goes into any given Zelda title is nothing short of bizarre. Nintendo's developers see games as more than just sales tools. A lot of heart and care go into them. Just because they don't sell as much as other braindead stupid shit games or lack the textures of a Naughty Dog game doesn't mean they don't need to exist. There will always be an audience and Nintendo will always do well to keep them around. If these franchises were ever laid to rest I would lose about 85% of the interest I have in playing videogames, period.
This exactly
If the people who constantly bitch for new ip's supported them then maybe we would get more but as it is they ignore them then complain about anything that comes out from a more established ip .
Cant believe this took two pages.
Kickass667
Banned
Only if they want the company to die.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Nintendo did create a huge new leading IP this past generation.
It became enormous.
It had no connection to their previous characters or even their previous gaming image.
Almost every individual game release branded with this new IP became a huge seller or at least did very respectably well and even grew a new market.
This new IP was so profound that they even branded a game console after it.
The problem of course, is that it was an IP a lot of conservative, traditional game fans didn't care to accept as even being legitimate for gaming. And so it is typically ignored when people get together to gripe about how Nintendo is old and moldy, and never reinvents themselves.
Which is the problem isn't it? Nintendo makes Mario, someone says they're old and boring. Nintendo goes out on a limb, and someone says they're just wasting time with gimmicks.
It became enormous.
It had no connection to their previous characters or even their previous gaming image.
Almost every individual game release branded with this new IP became a huge seller or at least did very respectably well and even grew a new market.
This new IP was so profound that they even branded a game console after it.
The problem of course, is that it was an IP a lot of conservative, traditional game fans didn't care to accept as even being legitimate for gaming. And so it is typically ignored when people get together to gripe about how Nintendo is old and moldy, and never reinvents themselves.
Which is the problem isn't it? Nintendo makes Mario, someone says they're old and boring. Nintendo goes out on a limb, and someone says they're just wasting time with gimmicks.
Meccanical
Member
They should at least put Mickey in more things like Runaway Brain.
When's the last time Mickey was in a movie that wasn't direct-to-video or TV only?
Or at least a short...something.
phosphor112
Banned
No, but they need new IPs.