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Nintendo & Sony : next gen console together - just do it
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TheKaeptain
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Isn't this why we have monopoly laws? Not only would a product like this dominate the market but it would put the xbox or other competitors out of business.
For me it's more because I'm worried at the state of Japanese gaming. Going from consoles to handhelds, and then to mobile. By fighting for support with each other they are wasting not only their own resources, but also those of several Japan devs who are bouncing around supporting several platforms. In a turn to make up their lost revenue, 3rd parties are eyeing mobile quite heavily which has impacted the quality of certain franchises..
Even if it did create a monopoly in Japan, if something like a partnership or merger would allow the devs and games to flourish and minimise wasted resources, and give me more of the types of games I enjoy I'd be all for it. The fact that I'd have to buy one less handheld and one less console is a bonus.
Not that this is anything but a pipe dream
Mauricio_Magus
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Seriously? Nintendo wants to sell the hardware, if you don't want to buy it then don't(like you just said you've been doing). But don't expect them to change their ways after 30 years just to win some quick cash.
I don't think it really works that way. The only way you could call it a monopoly is if Sonytendo buy up all the patents necessary to construct a competitor. Otherwise, they're simply offering a better product that people want to buy.
They're a business. That's sort of what they're supposed to be doing. If that isn't their focus, I'm sure their shareholders will have something to say.
It's why I wonder why anyone buys any console...
Oh yeah, I'd buy a console because there are a few games I want to play. That's why you buy a console.
It would be monopoly if Nintendo and Sony went through a fusion as companies. I don't think monopoly laws say anything against two (even dominant) companies making one product. Or maybe they do? I'm not an expert.
At least I do know they can't force them to competete which essentially would mean the same thing as two companies making one product.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Doing what? giving up on consoles over one flop? They'd just focus on the 3DS in a worst case scenario(which they probably won't), they aren't going 3rd party.
Also, ignoring some of the best games of the system and calling the best ones "decent" really shows how much you really want to play the games.
Nightstick11
Banned
I don't know if I would like this simply because I love the way these two corporations compete against each other. They are like the San Antonio Spurs and the Los Angeles Lakers. Sony has won some wars (PS, PS2) while Nintendo has won others (Wii, DS, 3DS).
Also, the only way this would work is if Sony was subordinate to Nintendo (which they would never accept) because Nintendo pulls in a lot more profit than Sony.
Also, the only way this would work is if Sony was subordinate to Nintendo (which they would never accept) because Nintendo pulls in a lot more profit than Sony.
You don't buy PS4 or Xbone for a "few" games, you buy them for a lot of games that are on a platform that has features that make it worth the asking price.
Not at all, but at least acknowledge that it is a flop by cutting the price to something more appropriate. Case in point: The premium Wii U is still worth 428 dollars in Australia.
I don't understand what people have against Nintendo controllers?
They actually have 3 different choices atm:
- A classic controller
- The GamePad
- The Wiimote
Choice is good, everyone can choose what they like
Then again, while I'd like to see that console, it's probably never going to become real.
I agree with the control options. The Wiimote + nunchuck being my fave controller (I'm serious).
A console gamer has no right to complain about spending money. The Wii U is as expensive as 4 games combined at this point. Games are freaking 60-100 dollars these days, so whining about a 250 dollar console makes no sense.
Mauricio_Magus
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I live in Mexico, the Wii U is 450 bucks here, I know how much it sucks. What have they sold, 3-4 million? It's certainly going to sell Game Cube numbers and I fully blame the name and marketing for it.
I have crazy standards when it comes to games because of my limited cash and money, and I've decided to buy a Wii U instead of a PS4, it just felt right.(of course, this is just my opinion, I fucking love Sony since the PS2 and I know I'll get a PS4 someday)
Im kinda suprised you say SONY would never do it. I would have said Nintendo rather !
WrathEater
Banned
There would only have to be one system designed by Sony with Nintendo developing a controller and Sony using the Dualshock just like on the Wii U with the gamepad tablet and pro controllers.
This would be incredible. The system could dual boot operating systems or run a hypervisor and virtual machine setup like the x1.
This would allow Nintendo to focus on games which is what they are good at. Sony and Nintendo first parties would be a thing to behold. Not to mention the marketshare they would no doubt attain. Probably like 80%. Domination.
This would be incredible. The system could dual boot operating systems or run a hypervisor and virtual machine setup like the x1.
This would allow Nintendo to focus on games which is what they are good at. Sony and Nintendo first parties would be a thing to behold. Not to mention the marketshare they would no doubt attain. Probably like 80%. Domination.
"I'd personally would like less competition because of my brand loyalty" is what I read here. Either this or serious ignorance of the current state of SEGA and what they became after they stopped producing hardware, and the reasons for that.
LOL at people wanting ANY of the three big console manufacture out of the race. Competition is good and is what drives innovation. Had Nintendo and MS dropped out last generation PS4 would be US$599 again and probably would be less desirable in regards to hardware than it actually is (it would most certainly still have 4GB GDDR5). The same would be true for Nintendo or Microsoft if they were playing this game alone in the market. No price drops, no better deals, no bundles.
I'm sorry, but anyone referring to Nintendo as legitimate competition this coming generation is sticking their neck out pretty far. Next gen will be a 2 horse race unless Nintendo do something fast.
I fully expect Nintendo to team up next generation with someone, but I have my doubts it'll be Sony or Microsoft even.
This is because Nintendo wants to be different, but 3rd parties are wanting power that you see in other systems. In order to get them on Nintendo, it seems to be smart to go that route and strike a deal for hardware development from a bigger company that wants to join the console race but not fully enter it alone.
It will allow Nintendo to package a peripheral (or at least offer one) but still creating a place for 3rd party titles. But how do you get the crowd away from Sony/MS? You go ballsy, give gamers what they wanted for years, and you make a FPS by Miyamoto that trumps all other FPS games.
Done deal.
This is because Nintendo wants to be different, but 3rd parties are wanting power that you see in other systems. In order to get them on Nintendo, it seems to be smart to go that route and strike a deal for hardware development from a bigger company that wants to join the console race but not fully enter it alone.
It will allow Nintendo to package a peripheral (or at least offer one) but still creating a place for 3rd party titles. But how do you get the crowd away from Sony/MS? You go ballsy, give gamers what they wanted for years, and you make a FPS by Miyamoto that trumps all other FPS games.
Done deal.
Damn, this stuff about "Mario games," as if they were all the same thing. Time to quote Miyamoto:
Super Mario 3D World =/= Mario & Luigi Dream Team =/= Mario Kart =/= Luigi's Mansion etc.
Mario is a universe. It has different IPs within that universe and with those characters. With many other franchises that don't generally release more than one game per year, like Call of Duty, every one of their installments sticks to the same general formula. This is not a bad thing, but "a Call of Duty game" only encompasses one genre, one formula, one gameplay type. "A Mario game" encompasses platforming, sports, racing, RPGs, party games etc. and within those, there are also different types of gameplay styles, as the Paper Mario series is different from the Mario & Luigi series, for example, despite belonging to the same genre.
Super Mario 3D World =/= Mario & Luigi Dream Team =/= Mario Kart =/= Luigi's Mansion etc.
Mario is a universe. It has different IPs within that universe and with those characters. With many other franchises that don't generally release more than one game per year, like Call of Duty, every one of their installments sticks to the same general formula. This is not a bad thing, but "a Call of Duty game" only encompasses one genre, one formula, one gameplay type. "A Mario game" encompasses platforming, sports, racing, RPGs, party games etc. and within those, there are also different types of gameplay styles, as the Paper Mario series is different from the Mario & Luigi series, for example, despite belonging to the same genre.
I dont thinks its going to happen, Nintendo are probably still bitter towards Sony because of the past and Nintendo are to stubborn to become 3rd party.
If there were to be a collaboration between Sony and Nintendo I think the two would clash.There philosophies and business practices are just too different.
I find it very hard to predict what the future is for Nintendo, but one thing I'am pretty certain of is, if they continue to not keep 3rd parties happy and not get there games, Nintendo will struggle.
Nintendo needs more balance.
If there were to be a collaboration between Sony and Nintendo I think the two would clash.There philosophies and business practices are just too different.
I find it very hard to predict what the future is for Nintendo, but one thing I'am pretty certain of is, if they continue to not keep 3rd parties happy and not get there games, Nintendo will struggle.
Nintendo needs more balance.
Same story of last gen when they were not competition but manage to sell 100mi Wii, right?
They might not be going for the same crowd head to head, but somewhere those ellipses overlap and they fight for the same money, regardless of you acknowledging it or not.
Your mistake was suggesting that next gen will be anything like the last. That box seat that Nintendo was sitting in with the Wii, the appealing price point one, that seat belongs to Sony now, but they also have the advantage of having the superior console and again, I repeat, not just in the form of raw power.
That, coupled with the third parties leaving the Wii U for dead and the list of things Nintendo have to sell their console on grows thin. I love Nintendo's I.Ps as much as the next person, but my wallet is not bottomless, and neither is my perception of value.
Well clearly I'm not just "one person" because the PS4 just outsold the Wii U in one geographic location in 2 days.
HovaHovito
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Lol, youre one person
Im sure theyll be fine without your money
True, but this time the Next gen HD twins also have motion/tablet/ casual draw.
The only thing Nintendo has going for it is exclusives + price, and that didnt work out to well for the gamecube.
Hyperactivity
Banned
And what happened to SEGA. Look at the Dreamcast games. That was SEGA going all out. Have they ever done so much since.
Canis lupus
Member
Nope. It would basically be a PS5 with Sony and Nintendo games on it, nothing on the hardware side would be influenced by Nintendo's small/cheap/family design philosphies.
Handheld is what I'd like to see. 3DS software on Vita would be the ultimate gaming handheld. _O_
Handheld is what I'd like to see. 3DS software on Vita would be the ultimate gaming handheld. _O_
HovaHovito
Banned
Not sure how thats relevant to you not buying a wii u because you think the cost isnt worth it
Nintendo has been operating at a profit for years
Sony on the other hand..
What does sony have?
Hyperactivity
Banned
When this happens you'll get severe domination. Look what happened to Sony when it had that. If M$ and Nintendo weren't there to check it's power, Sony would have got away with their ps3 price. Or look at the way the es treated 3rd parties. Or the crappy decisions Atari made
Domination isn't good.
Domination isn't good.
Sony have been running at a loss because of their stubborn refusal to dump their black hole divisions, those being Televisions and Music.
If they were nothing but gaming, they would probably be running big profits.
Otakumegane
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They lost 4+billion on the PS3 so yeah. Have then made profit in 2012?
Sony will one day exact sweet, cold revenge on Nintendo's betrayal and purchase the company outright.
I hear Sony and Nintendo are in fact an elaborate front for Yakuza rival gangs.
Yes I made this up.
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
Sony wouldn't let Nintendo do anything about the hardware. The only thing that Sony would allow would be Nintendos software exclusively on their plattform.
But they would never build a plattform together.
But they would never build a plattform together.
test_account
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Sony did actually came out with rumble only some days or weeks within when Nintendo came out with their rumble pack. It was this controller: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_Analog_Controller. These things were probably announced earlier, but its hard to say if anyone copied eachother on that.
If they were to share a console they would probably design it together and make something that has features they both want.
KnockOneOff
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What Nintendo need to do is create a more "powerful" console and get some good backers!!
There marketing sucks, and that WiiU name didn't help!
I remember watching E3 and was like where is the dam console? Is it just a tablet!?!?
Nintendo and sega have always been about innovation and the others have followed down the line (analog sticks, online gaming, VMU etc etc)
And there games over the last few generations just have stuck the same, there innovation seems to have gone or maybe we have simply just grown up?
There marketing sucks, and that WiiU name didn't help!
I remember watching E3 and was like where is the dam console? Is it just a tablet!?!?
Nintendo and sega have always been about innovation and the others have followed down the line (analog sticks, online gaming, VMU etc etc)
And there games over the last few generations just have stuck the same, there innovation seems to have gone or maybe we have simply just grown up?
we.are.the.armada
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Didn't Nint bone Sony at some point, leading them into developing the PlayStation?
In terms of both hardware and software, they are headed in two different directions. Anyway, nah, I think that if anything Nintendo should just make games for everybody so people that only afford or be bothered to get one console or w/e can play a Mariokart.
In terms of both hardware and software, they are headed in two different directions. Anyway, nah, I think that if anything Nintendo should just make games for everybody so people that only afford or be bothered to get one console or w/e can play a Mariokart.
Maybe you just forgot to look at said games. Happens.
1.21Gigawatts
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I don't think that Nintendo can offer anything to Sony that Sony can't do on its own, except software.
And if Nintendo had anything great(hardware) they would build their own console, like they did with the Wii.
But what they did with the WiiU controller wasn't great. Sony wouldn't want that.
Otakumegane
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