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Nintendo still taking down youtube content with copyright claims?
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Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
I saw someone on twitter (a fan or viewer of his stuff) explaining to him that it's YouTube with their rubbish system that does stuff like this, and his response was pretty much "DON'T TELL ME HOW TO DO MY JOB, I'LL BE MAD AT WHO I WANT."
Came off as a giant asshole, never heard of the guy but I'll certainly stay away from his work if that's how he treats fans.
Because they are in talks about it early and going through the right channels instead of how Evo did it last time.
There is a process and people need to respect that. This is a corporation not some company ran from your bedroom.
CaptainTiptop
Member
The dude refers to himself as a Nintendo fanboy on his profile.
That's not true at all. Where did you get this from?
I am well aware of that and I agree with it. Alright, Evo apparently screwed up their production, but the bottom line is Nintendo wants more of it, just done better.
I must be missing the logic here. What do non-competitive players gain from the game not being featured on stage? How does it affect them?
w1gglyjones
Member
I think it's more of how YT's content/copyright management is set up and NOA just being inept and careless about it. Not anything intentional on their part... NOA just isn't good at this shit.
Meh, this isn't new behavior from him. He's already boycotting Sega due to their whole Youtube Shining Force video takedown earlier this year and he was bitching about Square-Enix trying to claim all the ad revenue from a podcast earlier this month because it had a Final Fantasy trailer included. Surprisingly, in that case he just edited out the trailer and didn't "boycott" them, likely because they release a lot of PC stuff he's interested in.
I'm not sure where things are at right now, I mostly responding to the title: They're not taking down footage "again" if they weren't taking down footage in the first place.
Why would he do that? He'll just edit the trailer out of the video and re-upload it.
Setvan2734
Member
But then he wouldn't get all that sweet youtube money
There was one poster here saying "they should have allowed it only if they turned items on because items off goes against the spirit of the game" or something like that. It was pretty sad
Dosen't really excuse him for calling one of his fans a moron tho.
ridethepiggy
Banned
Nintendo being anti-consumer? Who'd thunk it. They sure to have great leadership there.
I used to hang around /v/ during the years of 06/07. They took every opportunity to laugh at SmashBoard and then there were people like Dylan Tnga who would then taunt back (and lead to the whole fox only joke)
Nothing. They just want to be arseholes.
w1gglyjones
Member
if he is making money off the video, he shouldn't be bitching and moaning about how much effort it takes to reupload it. that comes with the territory. i could be more sympathetic if it wasn't monetized.
"TotalBOOscuit ‏@Totalbiscuit 1h
It'll probably take at least half a day to replace the footage, encode and reupload, so don't expect it anytime soon"
"TotalBOOscuit ‏@Totalbiscuit 18m
@JimSterling @NintendoAmerica we'll have the thing sorted out but it'll take maybe a day to edit that out, reencode, upload and process"
"TotalBOOscuit ‏@Totalbiscuit 10m
@LeAwesomeRohan this comment brought to you by someone whose livelihood is not dependent on shitty companies so has little perspective"
boo hoo
"TotalBOOscuit ‏@Totalbiscuit 1h
It'll probably take at least half a day to replace the footage, encode and reupload, so don't expect it anytime soon"
"TotalBOOscuit ‏@Totalbiscuit 18m
@JimSterling @NintendoAmerica we'll have the thing sorted out but it'll take maybe a day to edit that out, reencode, upload and process"
"TotalBOOscuit ‏@Totalbiscuit 10m
@LeAwesomeRohan this comment brought to you by someone whose livelihood is not dependent on shitty companies so has little perspective"
boo hoo
Yes because Nintendo letting someone who calls people "Nintendo fanboys" and "morons" on twitter use their IPs is exactly a pro consumer move.
ridethepiggy
Banned
Oh please. So now they're going to restrict what people post on Youtube based on calling others fanboys? Oh, well, that does sound like Nintendo. Truly the company of the people.
I agree.
They're restricting what people monetize on YouTube, and plenty of other publishers do the same.
Setvan2734
Member
Well theres the problem right there.
Bulbagarden
Member
Plenty of people here clearly not bothering to read the thread before posting.
More than likely, Nintendo has had no direct involvement in this video being flagged whatsoever. As pointed out by Orayn earlier, YouTube uses an automated system to match content. Things like trailers and music which have been uploaded on official YouTube channels, such as this Pokémon triler, are more likely to be recognized by those systems and lead to videos being flagged for a content match. Especially if you use a single big unedited chunk of the original video, rather than short clips separated by your own original content.
But having said that.....YouTube isn't at fault either. Because while their content matching system is most certainly overzealous in flagging videos, it's only like that because they've basically been forced to do that because of lobbying and legal threats from the music and film industries.
More than likely, Nintendo has had no direct involvement in this video being flagged whatsoever. As pointed out by Orayn earlier, YouTube uses an automated system to match content. Things like trailers and music which have been uploaded on official YouTube channels, such as this Pokémon triler, are more likely to be recognized by those systems and lead to videos being flagged for a content match. Especially if you use a single big unedited chunk of the original video, rather than short clips separated by your own original content.
But having said that.....YouTube isn't at fault either. Because while their content matching system is most certainly overzealous in flagging videos, it's only like that because they've basically been forced to do that because of lobbying and legal threats from the music and film industries.
*shrug* it's probably youtube automated content checker. But if I were Nintendo I am not sure I'd want this guy reuploading my pokemon trailer.
Playthroughs aren't the problem here
Nintendo's policy is only for current gen systems. They don't care from Wii era on consoles and DS on handhelds.
Same. A minute of hearing him talk was enough for me.
I don't get why they would put part of the trailer in a podcast.
I don't really see how this is anti consumer.
I don't really see how this is anti consumer.
Haunted
Member
But you can't use /v/ to define casual players, I mean we're talking about 4chan during 06/07, I didn't even know it existed back then (4chan vs SmashBoards = few hardcore nerds vs few hardcore nerds). The "true" casual players have zero problems with competitive players, why would they care? They sure do enjoy watching competitive Smash, Melee had 120,000 plus viewers this year at Evo, those were mostly casual viewers since it's impossible to reach such high numbers without them.
Just to move it away from just Nintendo fans:
He's pretty much being rude to anyone.
I knew this dude was a douchebag, but jesus. Way to ignore potentially valid claims and go for petty potshots.
No wonder nobody really takes TB seriously. Only his buddy buddies do.
You forgot to mention the other publishers who do this as well.
Haunted
Member
Sure, they should all stop that bs if they are.
Showing a minute of a trailer on an hour long podcast discussing the game shown in the trailer prevents the video upload, fucking ridiculous. Sterling and Totalbiscuit are totally in the right here. At the end of the day, it's Nintendo shooting themselves in the foot. (I'm an expert on Youtube video uploads...)
Now Jim Sterling joins in, I thought gaf likes Jim, but stills doesn't like TB. mmm
Except Jim isn't voicing his displeasure like a petulant child.
Like it or not, trailers are part of their copyright. All it would have taken for total biscuit was to take 30 seconds of capture video or permission to use the video from Nintendo.
I don't really like either. I don't see what's the harm with someone reuploading parts of your trailer but whatever. They're still just advertising in the end.
He's less bitching about having to do the work, and more bitching about Nintendo copyright claiming what is probably a 3 hour video that has a minute of a Pokemon advertisement.
He has about the same opinion for anyone who calls themselves a fanboy of anything, as fans are by definition fanatical, and don't tend to handle criticism or differing opinions very well.
Jim Sterling was in the show that got copyright claimed. "GAF" doesn't like or dislike anyone. Don't join in with this hive mind crap.
Square Enix did the same thing a different week as Nintendo is doing now. You'd think companies would love for their trailer and games to be freely advertised on a widely viewed show. Apparently not. Though TB's threat/action of no more Nintendo talk won't hurt either one of them much.
MisterHero
Super Member
You're right! YouTube should put an end to the abuse of YouTube's copyrighting rules if it's hated so much.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
These things are automatic. Do you think they have a team of thousands monitoring the Internet and reviewing all instances of usage on a case by case basis and manually submitting take down requests to YouTube?