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Nintendo Storage solution partnership?
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Iced_Eagle
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I doubt this will be on the current Wii. Probably the Wii's successor.
I would imagine that in the meantime Nintendo will just allow us to put games on our SD Cards.
I would imagine that in the meantime Nintendo will just allow us to put games on our SD Cards.
I think with this paragraph it is safe to assume that this is NOT for the home market but for the new DS to be released in 2009:
The company expects to generate greater revenues with an upcoming product, a smaller holographic drive now in development with an investment partner and aimed at the portable consumer electronics market. "You could get like 4 gigabytes in something about the size of a postage stamp," said vice president of marketing Liz Murphy. That product will hit the market in the 2009 timeframe, she said. If successful, the volumes of the consumer electronics product could overshadow the sales of the archival storage system.
This screams new DS to me...
The company expects to generate greater revenues with an upcoming product, a smaller holographic drive now in development with an investment partner and aimed at the portable consumer electronics market. "You could get like 4 gigabytes in something about the size of a postage stamp," said vice president of marketing Liz Murphy. That product will hit the market in the 2009 timeframe, she said. If successful, the volumes of the consumer electronics product could overshadow the sales of the archival storage system.
This screams new DS to me...
lordfroakie
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Jumpman23 said:
Sounds like it to me too
Death_Born
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Jumpman23 said:
DS Holo confirmed.
gaheris said:
It's a Holographic Disc reader in the patent. So basically instead of the memory card games we would have 4GB holographic discs. They have to be totally redoing the specs of the DS etc for this to make any sense at all.
If nintendo is investing all this money into holographic dics I can see it being used for the Next Gen console too but the normal 300GB,800GB and 1.6TB disc
CamHostage
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Neomoto said:This reads as future onboard storage for their next-gen system, not the storage solution you probably meant in the topic title
Right. All this is is one form of data storage. The way they store the data on the medium is interesting, but there's nothing different or safer about this technology that would make Nintendo any more comfortable with this technology than any of the many, many other perfectly viable solutions available right now. They simply don't outweigh the possible security violations against offering external storage at this time, and unless they come up with something fully secure that connects via USB, I doubt they'll do anything in the future. It's possible new models of Wii will have more storage, and I'm sure they would liketo sell something for storage, but right now there's not enough value in it. They can't control it, they can't make a great deal of profit off of it, so they aren't doing anything about it.
Black-Wind
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So it has shorter loading times?Gozan said:
IDK much about this tech but it seems like something that Nintendo chould use for both their new console and new hand-helds.
I thought about this tech when I posted on the "Wii2" topic. Seems like a good way to side step Sony's Blu-Ray seeing as I believe that the next Wii will come out at a time where this tech is cheaper (2013-2016).
Mr. Pointy
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Just thinking.
The game storage units for the next Nintendo handheld won't be much smaller in size than the DS game cards. Maybe SD card size at most. Because once they get too small, they'd be very easy to lose. And, well, kids have a tendency to misplace things.
I'm thinking 8GB or greater discs/cards about the same size as the DS game cards, though probably thinner.
The game storage units for the next Nintendo handheld won't be much smaller in size than the DS game cards. Maybe SD card size at most. Because once they get too small, they'd be very easy to lose. And, well, kids have a tendency to misplace things.
I'm thinking 8GB or greater discs/cards about the same size as the DS game cards, though probably thinner.
Black-Wind
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Will there be large scale production of this?aeolist said:
I mean, it's been out for years and this thread is the first I have ever heard of it. Is this something thats inline to fight Blu-ray in the format wars or is it something completely different?
cartman414
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Holographic media is really fast when it comes to seek times.
PantherLotus
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The DS2 is actually the Wiimote2.
Black-Wind said:
It was never intended to be a Competitor to blu ray just the future of Disc Based Storage systems. Technologically though it is vastly superior to blu ray and is impressive enough Nintendo jumped on board and helped fund company research.
Current Disc reading technology is very slow for discs the larger they get because the sysem remains the same as far as Bits read per second etc. With Holography you move into the millions of bits a second.
The technology really is impressive and as you said in development for a long time its just finally coming out of the labs and into consumer hands so youll start to hear alot more about it.
cartman414
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Indeed. I kinda wish holographic media was the choice for HD. Blu-ray is so slow right now.
MorisUkunRasik
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while we're on the subject, where the fuck is my flying car? Get on it scientists, I'm tired of being limited by gravity!
laserbeam said:
Exactly, DS media is enough for the capabilities of the DS, and still they could get higher (like we already have 256MB cartridge, 512MB should be possible) without changing the media support. GC level, like PSP, need 1GB+ to shine, IMO.
So, we get a new handheld in 2009 ??
PantherLotus
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MorisUkunRasik
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way too wide
tehrik-e-insaaf
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one thing about nintendo is that they make good bets in terms of upcoming technology companies - even if from our perspective they don't necessarily implement a lot of these things
nintendo was playing around with floppy discs, cd-roms, re-writability, online/satellite connections for years before anyone else was
they had great insight into sound when they invested in sony's technology for audio - they also invested in the super FX chip because they felt polygons were the natural evolution of gaming
in the late snes era they gambled with silicon graphics and wire-frame rendering when game designers, etc. had no idea it would be the future (most relying on crude polygons or sprites) - and they were spot-on
in japan of course they had the super famicom cart-save system, where you kept one cart and could buy new games for it (get it uploaded)... that's something that few others had considered doing at that point and nintendo actually pulled it off quite successfully
with the n64 - they bet on RAMBUS memory as being the next big thing, and they were right (well to a degree anyways) - even if the n64 had other cripping problems
with gamecube, they went with artX and bet that they would have the technology to make flipper really great, and lo' and behold they were bought out by ATI
another great bet with nintendo was their belief that mo-sys would would be the next rambus with their 1T-sram tech, and if anyone here follows memory, mo-sys has been followed with great enthusiasm with people in the industry, and they are constantly being talked about as a buy-out target for quite a few major chip makers
nintendo's investments in this upcoming add-on to the wii-mote, and the company behind it, are also a step ahead, technologically, even if it doesn't seem that way to us who are really focused on the graphics and the underlying horsepower
i think this patent holds great promise... i want to see how nintendo puts it to good use in a practical setting...
nintendo was playing around with floppy discs, cd-roms, re-writability, online/satellite connections for years before anyone else was
they had great insight into sound when they invested in sony's technology for audio - they also invested in the super FX chip because they felt polygons were the natural evolution of gaming
in the late snes era they gambled with silicon graphics and wire-frame rendering when game designers, etc. had no idea it would be the future (most relying on crude polygons or sprites) - and they were spot-on
in japan of course they had the super famicom cart-save system, where you kept one cart and could buy new games for it (get it uploaded)... that's something that few others had considered doing at that point and nintendo actually pulled it off quite successfully
with the n64 - they bet on RAMBUS memory as being the next big thing, and they were right (well to a degree anyways) - even if the n64 had other cripping problems
with gamecube, they went with artX and bet that they would have the technology to make flipper really great, and lo' and behold they were bought out by ATI
another great bet with nintendo was their belief that mo-sys would would be the next rambus with their 1T-sram tech, and if anyone here follows memory, mo-sys has been followed with great enthusiasm with people in the industry, and they are constantly being talked about as a buy-out target for quite a few major chip makers
nintendo's investments in this upcoming add-on to the wii-mote, and the company behind it, are also a step ahead, technologically, even if it doesn't seem that way to us who are really focused on the graphics and the underlying horsepower
i think this patent holds great promise... i want to see how nintendo puts it to good use in a practical setting...
MorisUkunRasik
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tehrik-e-insaaf said:
too bad thats what really matters in the market place. Research all you like but if you don't actually invest in it, then who cares.
PantherLotus
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MorisUkunRasik said:
There's a comparison to NASA and velcro here, but I'm not sure I'm the right one to make that comparison.
JoshuaJSlone
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PantherLotus
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FUCK YEAH
AND 2 OF THEM
AND 2 OF THEM
MorisUkunRasik
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shouldnt the d pad and other buttons be on the bottom half. being so high makes it look uncomfortable
Indeed, Nintendo is very much on the ball when it comes to these kinds of things. They always had great hardware imo, and always holds true to demands Nintendo wants, like affordability for mass consumers for example.tehrik-e-insaaf said:
It's also pretty telling for me that Nintendo is doing things like MotionPlus when the generation is already long up and running. Makes you wonder what Nintendo will do with both their next portable AND console. If anything, it must be harder to make a complete package for everyone (even the expanded audience and such) then anyone had to do ever before.
PantherLotus
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MorisUkunRasik said:
you can't see it, but the top half slides over the bottom half, like a slider cell phone with a qwerty keyboard. that circle on the bottom left is a touch-based analogue control. dual triggers underneath bottom half function as L/R buttons when in DS mode.
MorisUkunRasik
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oh, you would think people would want immediate access to the start and select buttons
PantherLotus
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MorisUkunRasik said:
when in wiimote2 mode the screen (the top one in DS2 mode) functions as the home/+/- that are in place now. it's a touchscreen.
tehrik-e-insaaf
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MorisUkunRasik said:
well i guess my point is a little more nuanced
i am saying that i think nintendo does infact invest in a lot of these bleeding-edge technologies and R&D, just that we don't necessarily see them yield benefits to us in the ways that certain gamers would prefer, like dvd-playback last generation or high-end graphics and sound this generation
remember, nintendo is focused on getting high-end low-cost high-reliability components into mass-produced devices that will sell tens of millions of units that meet the specification of their blueprint for success, the kinds of investments they have made have been very shrewd, and the success of mo-sys, artX, etc. are all testament to this
innovations like rambus, 1t-sram, artX flipper tech, etc. may not seem to be that big to you, but actually, they redefined (or have significantly influenced) the norms of the industry and how gadget manufacturers were considering efficient device design and setting up seemless international supply chain for fixed configuration devices
i won't get into how much money nintendo sunk into analog control, analogue sticks, d-pads, etc - nintendo has hundreds of patents around it
in many ways apple is very similar - they have at least 300 patents just covering the initial iphone alone! many things we take for granted like scrolling through albums with the flick of a finger, but actually, they have spent millions researching to understand
stuff you take for granted is actually a huge R&D outlay!
of course some companies find it easier to just imitate... ;-)
tehrik-e-insaaf
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nli10 said:
oh come now, let's not take it to that extreme! nintendo also did stuff with downloadable pokemon, etc. they have been trying to do more and more on the basis of their target blueprint for success
but still, credit should be given where it is due - microsoft has done a phenomenal job with xbox live, and they should be credited for their INNOVATIONS (yes I said it) in this area
now if msft would invest a bit more in their dash interface... maybe they can imitate sony a bit more in this area ;-)
Okay wait...I keep reading this patent and while Nintendo is involved and maybe it might be something someday...I don't see how it is connected to the previous InPhase comments about them working on a 4GB storage format for a portable consumer electronics device in 2009? Sure, it *could be* NDS's successor, but how is 4GB of read-only (yes, read the patents) so grande when re-writable SD cards already beat that now for cheaper? Sure, SD is open to the mass consumer (pirate), but the flash storage technology it's based on can be made into a propriety format much like the NDS's current game cards.
Yeah holographic storage could be great for piracy thwarting, but is Nintendo going to put an NDS slot (for B/C), flash storage (such as an SD card slot or internal flash) *AND* a holo-card slot for a new WORM (write once read many) format??? It just doesn't fit in. MAYBE this patent deals with making the NDS card & holo card slot one in the same, but as I read it over and over that's not what I'm seeing. And if it were, what would be the point when flash technology is already there, for cheaper and offers re-writability if needbe.
More confusion for me today and finding out more about this technology really makes me think that my universal format idea is just a dream as I would not chose this technology even with all it's "benifits"!
Yeah holographic storage could be great for piracy thwarting, but is Nintendo going to put an NDS slot (for B/C), flash storage (such as an SD card slot or internal flash) *AND* a holo-card slot for a new WORM (write once read many) format??? It just doesn't fit in. MAYBE this patent deals with making the NDS card & holo card slot one in the same, but as I read it over and over that's not what I'm seeing. And if it were, what would be the point when flash technology is already there, for cheaper and offers re-writability if needbe.
More confusion for me today and finding out more about this technology really makes me think that my universal format idea is just a dream as I would not chose this technology even with all it's "benifits"!
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