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It can't be that demand is far outstripping the sizeable supply. No sirree.So it's incompetence. I have no other word for a complete four month shortage.
It can't be that demand is far outstripping the sizeable supply. No sirree.So it's incompetence. I have no other word for a complete four month shortage.
Whether the shortages are intentional or not, Nintendo actually benefits here through the psychological principal of scarcity. People always, ALWAYS want what they can't have, and always DESIRE something they have to work very hard to get. Basic but proven, set-in-stone principles of psychology. So by demand being limited, they've (again, whether it's intentional or not is irrelevant) created an excitement and desirability for the product. Honestly I think it will benefit them in the long run with higher lifetime sales because it keeps people talking about the system for a very long time.
People talking about your product = strong word of mouth = more people talking about your product = massive sales multipliers.
People playing with others is a far better multiplayer in the case of the Switch.People talking about your product = strong word of mouth = more people talking about your product = massive sales multipliers.
2.72 million during March.
3DS launched 3.61M in that same period and was overstocked.
It's Nintendo, it will take them forever to fix the production issues. I don't believe the switch shortages are intentional but I do think they continously drop the ball and I have no faith in them getting it right.
The 3DS had a shitty named, looked like the DS and even faced software competition.
The Switch had none of that.
The 3DS had a shitty named, looked like the DS and even faced software competition.
The Switch had none of that.
I personally doubt it's going to be easy to find a Switch for a good year or two, great software coming out only increases the demand, and as we all know it's not like Nintendo games drop in price quickly. And soon we'll be seeing bundles with games -- probably around Christmas, and those will fly off the shelves as well. It's interesting to see how long it keeps up.They ain't gonna benefit if those shortages are still going when /Splat2/Mario/Xeno release.
You have to either be among the most cynical people in the world, a manipulator/liar, or just generally ignorant to spin this into incompetence. If in my business we had so much demand we could not keep up with demand temporarily, that is called growth and success. It takes time to staff good people in that case - just like it takes time to get the parts they need in his case.
I personally doubt it's going to be easy to find a Switch for a good year or two, great software coming out only increases the demand, and as we all know it's not like Nintendo games drop in price quickly. And soon we'll be seeing bundles with games -- probably around Christmas, and those will fly off the shelves as well. It's interesting to see how long it keeps up.
If it might sound dumb, it's probably because it is and as such, should be avoided.Yeah it might sound dumb but if you think about it, there is something about the fact that Nintendo was relying on Smash Bros U to considerably boost WiiU sales, and by shortening stock of the one instrumental peripheral that was only compatible with that game, demand for the game would rise.
Not sure exactly how that would work, but eh. Not that I actually care. The point being, Nintendo has a habit of doing this to inflate the value of their products.
Why would anyone think they're intentional? Nintendo wants to sell as many Switch consoles as they can get onto store shelves.
People on here were saying the Switch would fail right out of the gate because it was weaker than a PS4, costs $300 and was launching in the middle of a console generation.
What would have you told those people that the Switch would be a huge success at launch?
"Intentional shortages" is the stupidest game conspiracy theory that many otherwise rational people seem to entertain the idea of.
the 3DS had a shitty name? it was a dual screen handheld successor to the DS with glasses free 3D
it was a perfect name
People on here were saying the Switch would fail right out of the gate because it was weaker than a PS4, costs $300 and was launching in the middle of a console generation.
What would have you told those people that the Switch would be a huge success at launch?
That's still low if it's a worldwide launch.
A lot of people believe Nintendo intentionally create shortages to drive demand via artificial scarcity. I do not believe this is the case. With amiibo, part of the issue was the port strike. With NES Classic, Nintendo simply did not understand the demand (or perhaps there was some other reason - but I don't believe they intentionally under shipped or intentionally left money on the table in that way).
(Well, it could be argued they're leaving money on the table now by discontinuing it, but maybe they figure they can make more with a revised model (or SNES version) launched at a different time that doesn't take attention from Switch.)
It was bound to sell all of that quickly worldwide. They have the Japanese market on lock as well as a big diehard fanbase worldwide. Now that they had a competent lead up to launch with a flagship game (which has most of its appeal in the West) releasing with years of hype behind it, 2 millions seemed low to me for launch.
It was a play on the gimmick that they pushed, yeah it's a clever pun but as far as having a clear distinctive name compared to its predecessor the 3DS failed in my opinion.
Whether the shortages are intentional or not, Nintendo actually benefits here through the psychological principal of scarcity. People always, ALWAYS want what they can't have, and always DESIRE something they have to work very hard to get. Basic but proven, set-in-stone principles of psychology. So by demand being limited, they've (again, whether it's intentional or not is irrelevant) created an excitement and desirability for the product. Honestly I think it will benefit them in the long run with higher lifetime sales because it keeps people talking about the system for a very long time.
People talking about your product = strong word of mouth = more people talking about your product = massive sales multipliers.
Would you have said the same about the 3DS and Wii U launches?
why would a continuation of the DS line have a name that didn't express that? that seems silly to me. it was the next generation of the DS line. it had a dual screen setup with the bottom screen being a touch screen.
your opinion and all that but it just doesn't make any sense to me for the reasons I've listed
the 3DS is honestly one of the most "no shit" hardware names out there
I don't think we'll see any Switch bundles this holiday. There's absolutely no need for them, as bundles will only increase demand further.
Not at all. For the 3DS the reason I outlined early as well as the price were factors. For the WiiU, the launch lineup was underwhelming and the arguably biggest game had a similar entry the same year on 3DS. Most 3rd party games available at launch were released first on the other consoles so if you were interested in that you would've a system which can play them already. And as for the lineup after release it was just barebones, big amount of times between release and not much 3rd party support either. It didn't provide confidence in the console.
Now compare it with the Switch where you basically have a game a month coming from Nintendo in the first year as well as some support from 3rd party and most notably indies.
The name is confusing to me, especially when the DSi was a thing.
AGITΩ;241574904 said:Yet they make certain retail stores horde all units for the following ad week?
Good point. Thank you. I do think Nintendo would have made more had they gauged demand and had the production line capacity for it, though.
As a well informed video games enthusiast, it was a name that made perfect sense. But to casuals, it was confusing. I know this because I talked to a bunch of them. After DS light, DSi, and DSi XL, normal ass people just thought it was yet another revision of the DS, and not a full on successor. I heard "Well I don't care about 3D so why would I bother getting a 3DS?" all too often.why would a continuation of the DS line have a name that didn't express that? that seems silly to me. it was the next generation of the DS line. it had a dual screen setup with the bottom screen being a touch screen.
your opinion and all that but it just doesn't make any sense to me for the reasons I've listed
the 3DS is honestly one of the most "no shit" hardware names out there
I see what youre saying, but then the response i hear back from higher ups is that it is an agreement between Nintendo and them. We used to do minimum ad holds, im used to that, the switch is the first "hold all shipments" system almost every shipment.Nintendo has nothing to do with that. At least here in the States, federal law requires that if a store advertises an item for sale on a certain date, that item must be in stock and for sale, on that date. Otherwise, you would have stores advertising items, even when they didn't have any as a ploy to get customers into the store to buy something else. It's why you see items listed for insanely low prices on Black Friday, yet in small print they always say limited amount. And why there's only like 1 or 2 of those items at each store. It's the retail outlets way of cheating the law: they technically have the item for that price, but it's literally only 1 or 2 per store. If you see an ad at Target that says they will have Switches in stock for a Sunday ad, that's all Target's doing. They hold them back so they comply with the law, and they get a ton customers stopping in to see if they still have them available. Chances are, even if they sell out, they still got you in their store, and you will buy other items you needed from them versus a competitor.
Why would anyone think they're intentional? Nintendo wants to sell as many Switch consoles as they can get onto store shelves.
The name is confusing to me, especially when the DSi was a thing.
The 3DS name is about as straightforward as you can get. The WiiU on the other hand...
AGITΩ;241577644 said:I see what youre saying, but then the response i hear back from higher ups is that it is an agreement between Nintendo and them. We used to do minimum ad holds, im used to that, the switch is the first "hold all shipments" system almost every shipment.
As a well informed video games enthusiast, it was a name that made perfect sense. But to casuals, it was confusing. I know this because I talked to a bunch of them. After DS light, DSi, and DSi XL, normal ass people just thought it was yet another revision of the DS, and not a full on successor. I heard "Well I don't care about 3D so why would I bother getting a 3DS?" all too often.
Both 3DS and Wii U fell in the same trap, because they both wanted to capitalize on the success of the previous consoles, but neither had good enough marketing to show the public that they were brand new systems early on (or in the Wii U's case, ever).
The Switch managed to avoid that, thankfully.
Wow I have no idea Nintendo internally dried up the supply on the Wii. So they hit their quota for the year and created scarcity until their next fiscal year to guarantee meeting next years quota?
Corporate is weird as hell.
But wouldn't this be a continued problem for Nintendo? I mean Apple isn't going to stop manufacturing iphones/ ipads any time soon, so what can Nintendo do to not be in this situation next year or the year after that?
can't say I understand that sentiment but :shrug:
just take a gander at Neogaf back in 2011
I'd imagine they'll be easy-ish to find starting around March or April of next year once holiday hype & Mario stops pushing the system, but depending on their 2018 holiday titles they'll probably be hard to find again starting around late October 2018. And I don't believe they're selling at a loss, so they're well positioned for a price drop more or less when ever they please. It's like the opposite of the Wii U.I personally doubt it's going to be easy to find a Switch for a good year or two, great software coming out only increases the demand, and as we all know it's not like Nintendo games drop in price quickly. And soon we'll be seeing bundles with games -- probably around Christmas, and those will fly off the shelves as well. It's interesting to see how long it keeps up.