heh, perhaps not the best barometer ;p
Man, so my nephew really wanted the Neon version, and i found it FRYs, next to my wife work so i she went to go pick it up before anyone else could. Now I know why it was still there, FRYs forces their bullshit 2 year warranty on you for 60 bucks, what a load of horseshit.
Its one thing to be gouged by some scalping piece of shit, but an actual store? and its not even forcing you to buy a game or some shit, its some useless warranty that doest even cover physical damage, man fuck that store.
Man, so my nephew really wanted the Neon version, and i found it FRYs, next to my wife work so i she went to go pick it up before anyone else could. Now I know why it was still there, FRYs forces their bullshit 2 year warranty on you for 60 bucks, what a load of horseshit.
Its one thing to be gouged by some scalping piece of shit, but an actual store? and its not even forcing you to buy a game or some shit, its some useless warranty that doest even cover physical damage, man fuck that store.
Considering the mini-console's shortages as intentional makes even less sense, as after increasing the first run they have stopped producing them instead of continuing the production to bank on that so-called "demand increase caused by the shortage"...
Edit: and shouldn't scarcity demand be more efficient in increasing the price people are ready to pay instead of increasing the total number of sales?
Ofcourse they're not. A public company wants to make as much profit as fast as possible.
By definition the mini-console's shortages are intentional - it's not that they can't produce more, they chose not to produce more.Considering the mini-console's shortages as intentional makes even less sense, as after increasing the first run they have stopped producing them instead of continuing the production to bank on that so-called "demand increase caused by the shortage"...
*sigh* The point being that at the time it was a discussion point, Neogaf back in 2011 is a time capsule that if looked at paints an image of what people were thinking at that specific time, the internet was ripe with confusion when it came to the name, I only mentioned GAF specifically by name because it's easier to sift through talking points that took place 6 years ago. So bizarre to act like this wasn't a thing. It was no way as bad as the Wii U but it was still an issue during the first year or so that was rectified with heavy marketing and phasing out the DS, clearly that worked.
Why would anyone think they're intentional? Nintendo wants to sell as many Switch consoles as they can get onto store shelves.
I can't give much info on this, its just the response i always hear back from people on the higher side of the food chain. Needless to say, sunday is usually going to be the best time to grab a switch [in store]. Because, i guess part of the agreement is to redirect all sales to the physical stores and keep it offline. Switches havent been available for store pickup since launch as well.This is actually really interesting info. Can you give some further details on this? Does Nintendo actually mandate holding all of their Switch shipments for specific release dates across the board, like they are trying to coordinate stock between major retailers?
(Well, it could be argued they're leaving money on the table now by discontinuing it, but maybe they figure they can make more with a revised model (or SNES version) launched at a different time that doesn't take attention from Switch.)
So you can't decline their warranty offer? Aren't there any consumer laws against being forced that in the US?
Whether the shortages are intentional or not, Nintendo actually benefits here through the psychological principal of scarcity. People always, ALWAYS want what they can't have, and always DESIRE something they have to work very hard to get. Basic but proven, set-in-stone principles of psychology. So by demand being limited, they've (again, whether it's intentional or not is irrelevant) created an excitement and desirability for the product. Honestly I think it will benefit them in the long run with higher lifetime sales because it keeps people talking about the system for a very long time.
People talking about your product = strong word of mouth = more people talking about your product = massive sales multipliers.
There was a time when I believed Nintendo was artificially constraining supply. But as I've gotten older it's become clear to me that they're just consistently bad at gauging interest in their devices. It's impressive, really.
I think videogamedunkey nailed it on the mark. Nintendo knows neither marketing nor how to run a business, but they sure know how to make great games.
This hardware shortages is a result of once again, Nintendo failing to understand the demands of its own market. For better or for worse, they have always done defy industry standards by doing their own thing. Some people think this is intentional. I believe it's because they are incompetent.
I think videogamedunkey nailed it on the mark. Nintendo knows neither marketing nor how to run a business, but they sure know how to make great games.
This hardware shortages is a result of once again, Nintendo failing to understand the demands of its own market. For better or for worse, they have always done defy industry standards by doing their own thing. Some people think this is intentional. I believe it's because they are incompetent.
holy shit at some of the posts here
so now the story is "they knew the Switch would be a success they should have prepared it, they're so incompetent"? man this hindsight makes the Monado look like a fucking 8 ball!
I don't understand how Nintendo goes through this, Sony and Microsoft don't.
I don't understand how Nintendo goes through this, Sony and Microsoft don't.
I don't understand how Nintendo goes through this, Sony and Microsoft don't.
You have to either be among the most cynical people in the world, a manipulator/liar, or just generally ignorant to spin this into incompetence. If in my business we had so much demand we could not keep up with demand temporarily, that is called growth and success. It takes time to staff good people in that case - just like it takes time to get the parts they need in his case.
Less than 100k/month in Japan or less than 250k in the US is not "so much demand" that it cant be kept up with. Nintendo has produced more units per month for other platforms before. MS and Sony have done the same. What's ignorant is claiming its demand is the primary factor that has put them in this situation and not a combination of continually reported factors that could have been overcome had they started production earlier instead of trying to keep the Switch hardware secret. Stop trying to convince people that Nintendo had no ability to know others would be interested in the same resources months ago.
They're facing competition from apple for components. They're limited in what they can do at the moment.
What about the classic nes?
I think videogamedunkey nailed it on the mark. Nintendo knows neither marketing nor how to run a business, but they sure know how to make great games.
This hardware shortages is a result of once again, Nintendo failing to understand the demands of its own market. For better or for worse, they have always done defy industry standards by doing their own thing. Some people think this is intentional. I believe it's because they are incompetent.
Artificial scarcity to drum up demand only makes sense if the company later supplies enough to fulfill demand (as much as that silly artificial scarcity theory makes sense). The NES Classic is a clear case where they didn't plan on it being as in-demand as it was, and continued production not aligning with their desire to focus on making Switches.What about the classic nes?
I don't understand how Nintendo goes through this, Sony and Microsoft don't.
you should peruse the pre-launch Switch threads for context on my comment
it being a discussion point on GAF isn't really indicative of anything other than it being a discussion point on GAF
and like I said before I think the launch price and lack of system selling software were far more responsible for the early 3DS woes than the name. really reaching with that. look what happened when they dropped the price and released Mario Kart 7 and 3D Land.
If anybody is illuminati it's apple.Nintendo wants to make more switches
Illuminati are Sony fanbois
wake up sheeple
To be fair Microsoft & Sony are bigger companies with more money and resources than Nintendo.
Yeah, and George Bush didn't do 9/11!
That is not true... Nintendo has at least 10 billions in cash and zero debt, more than enough to get anything done that is possible by others if they actually tried. Its still typical Nintendo answer for everything to me.
I don't understand how Nintendo goes through this, Sony and Microsoft don't.
Their poor supply borders on negligence at this point. You'd think they'd have their shit together after learning this lesson with their last console.
If you're not making them fast enough, then get to a point where you can make them fast enough. "We're at capacity" is not good enough when you have the means to increase capacity.
Sony and Microsoft are not in a bidding war with apple with components that are in a worldwide shortage...
Anyone can go and look up the 100+ page thread from January where GAF collectively declared that the Switch was dead on arrival. It's documented history.
But nah half a year later we gotta pretend that it was so obvious that Switch would be a hit and they should have spent 2016 stockpiling components to avoid these shortages.