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Nippon Ichi is fine! It was a mistranslation, d00ds.

Small niche company, nice product, but they really should have tried to expand to other platforms, they kind of did this to themselves...

And releasing same day as Bloodborne, that's just pulling the trigger on the loaded gun.

Maybe they can talk to someone willing to snatch them up, otherwise, it's like they are gone already.
 
Somehow it seems like this isn't the first time they've said something like this.

Well, whatever. I'll buy it anyway.
 
I literally don´t care for....anything that was developed internally at NIS, but I love, love, love them as a publisher. They are good to us here in europe (save for the ripoff LE prices) .

I bought Akiba´s Trip, both Danganronpas and EO IV from them this year. Please don´t disappear :(

Edit: Oh, and Persona Q
 
Small niche company, nice product, but they really should have tried to expand to other platforms, they kind of did this to themselves...

And releasing same day as Bloodborne, that's just pulling the trigger on the loaded gun.

Maybe they can talk to someone willing to snatch them up, otherwise, it's like they are gone already.

I dont know why these niche companies end up focusing only on playstation when there are systems with a wider userbase for them.

Unless you're trying to sell exclusively to otaku who like characters... you should go for the widest market.

I bet they'll port this to the 3DS later http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summon_Night_5
 
And releasing same day as Bloodborne, that's just pulling the trigger on the loaded gun.

they set the release date back in september because it was the end of the fiscal year. sony delayed bloodborne in november, also because it was the end of the fiscal year. nis didn't purposefully delay disgaea 5 to bloodborne's release date.
 
Yatōkiri_Kilgharrah;142641466 said:
I dont know why these niche companies end up focusing only on playstation when there are systems with a wider userbase for them.

Unless you're trying to sell exclusively to otaku who like characters... you should go for the widest market.

I bet they'll port this to the 3DS later http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summon_Night_5

Bigger userbase doesn't always mean bigger sales.
 
they set the release date back in september because it was the end of the fiscal year. sony delayed bloodborne in november, also because it was the end of the fiscal year. nis didn't purposefully delay disgaea 5 to bloodborne's release date.

That's all well and good, but then change the date, move it up a week or something...sticking hard to the date isn't going to do them any favors.
 
LOL @ people suggesting porting the games. They can barely break even on one platform and you want them to take risk and spend more development porting games for what could be smaller percentage of audience than what they already have. The reality is, they have done cost/benefit analysis and found that there's not enough profit to be made in porting their game.

I highly down any japanese developer is that competent when it comes to judging the PC market. Pretty every japanese games ported to PC has been consider a financial success.
 
Yatōkiri_Kilgharrah;142641466 said:
I dont know why these niche companies end up focusing only on playstation when there are systems with a wider userbase for them.

Unless you're trying to sell exclusively to otaku who like characters... you should go for the widest market.
By that definition, go mobile and make a gacha games, like what 99% other developers do.
 
Yatōkiri_Kilgharrah;142639270 said:
You guys don't get how game development and budgeting works do you?

LOL @ people suggesting porting the games. They can barely break even on one platform and you want them to take risk and spend more development porting games for what could be smaller percentage of audience than what they already have. The reality is, they have done cost/benefit analysis and found that there's not enough profit to be made in porting their game.

Exactly. It costs more time & more money for a company to port a game over to multiple platforms; They don't exactly do this shit for free.

It also takes even more copies of a game being sold (due to the game being multiplatform) in order for a company to turn a profit off of that game more so than it does when a certain game is only on one platform.

And if they ever do it for multiplatform, PS3 & PC would be the safest routes to take.

What competition? Who's making strategy turn based RPG's on consoles these days?

This is why I get pissed when people ask for this series to evolve. Fuck that shit. There are too few turn based games on consoles these days.

I definitely agree.
 
I adopted a PS3 really late. I never bought a single Disgaea during that gen and my excuse now is that they are super long games and my ocd will kick in and it'll take forever. Disgaea 4 always looked really good to me.

As long as it's got it's normal hooks, I'm willing to buy Disgaea 5. I was kinda waiting for the sprites to get better but 4 already went there.
 
That's all well and good, but then change the date, move it up a week or something...sticking hard to the date isn't going to do them any favors.

it may not be possible for them to do that, even when they would have found out with about 4.5 months to go.
 
Maybe they will get bought.

Problem is for a guy like me who likes these types of games, I now prefer them on hand helds. Don't like being tied to a tv for 100 hrs. They really should have thought a bit harder on what they were doing in getting locked on the ps4. Someone must have the tea leaves wrong.

remote play.
 
Indeed it is.

3851 on TYO.

677 JPY ($5.69) per share as of December 10th close.

I wonder if this comment will have any effect.

-_-

The success or failure of the title determines the fate of the company. Pretty strong words.

Just crazy wow dunno if it's going to affect the stock price, it should as it does not inspire much confidence.

Furthermore, PS4 will have barely reached the 1 million threshold by then and with titles such as Bloodborne, Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy appearing within the same time frame. It does not leave much breathing room for Nippon Ichi... welp.
 
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The success or failure of the title determines the fate of the company. Pretty strong words.

Just crazy wow dunno if it's going to affect the stock price, it should as it does not inspire much confidence.

Furthermore, PS4 will have barely reached the 1 million threshold by then and with titles such as Bloodborne, Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy appearing within the same time frame. It does not leave much breathing room for Nippon Ichi... welp.

alternatively, the presence of an rpg-buying audience could help boost awareness of disgaea around the same time. the real problem is the fact it's releasing the same day as bloodborne. but move it back a week and it's right where final fantasy type-0 is. move it back another week and it's launching the same day as yakuza. they basically need to move the game up a whole month for it to have some time to itself. that may not be actually possible - even a week can put a lot of pressure on a team. so instead they are probably hoping that the other games will help bring rpg fans to the system, and those fans will want something like disgaea.
 
Exactly. It costs more time & more money for a company to port a game over to multiple platforms; They don't exactly do this shit for free.

It also takes even more copies of a game being sold (due to the game being multiplatform) in order for a company to turn a profit more so than it does when a certain game is only on one platform.

Indeed, and for a niche audience to begin with, it risks splitting the fan base. Often more profitable to sell 100K units on one console versus 60K on each of two consoles.
 
I love SRPGs(my favorite genre) and hadn't heard of this game. Seems to have good reviews on Amazon. Is it available on PSN? It's only $30 on Amazon right now. Does it have a fun battle system?

Battle system is alright. Nothing amazing tbh, but SRPG is addicting with standard gameplay due to the tactic involves.

But the story is the main reason why the game is so good.
The MC is based on Hamilcar Barca, and his battles with the Roman Empire.
The other characters are well written as well since it is a VN title after all.

Oh yeah, don't google Hamilcar Barca. Reading the wiki page will almost spoil the story for you.
 
Without them, the amount of pervy games being published anually for Vita will decrease 5%!

I could have sworn they have been on the verge of death for 5+ years.
 
Or is it because they want to get more Japanese gamers on board with PS4?

If they truly care about the series, they'll suck it up & buy one for games like this.

The ps4 isn't going to be anywhere near the success Its predecessors were in Japan. Furthermore there are userbases in Japan that are far more receptive to such games than the ps4, some of which are actually selling decently. The 3ds and PS3 are both more viable platforms for the title and mobile is the most successful there currently. Japan isn't going to "suck it up" for consoles, and if NI's being honest about betting the farm on the ps4 here, then they're going to be on the wrong side of the die roll.
 
alternatively, the presence of an rpg-buying audience could help boost awareness of disgaea around the same time. the real problem is the fact it's releasing the same day as bloodborne. but move it back a week and it's right where final fantasy type-0 is. move it back another week and it's launching the same day as yakuza. they basically need to move the game up a whole month for it to have some time to itself. that may not be actually possible - even a week can put a lot of pressure on a team. so instead they are probably hoping that the other games will help bring rpg fans to the system, and those fans will want something like disgaea.

I don't know AniHawk, it could, but retail presence will be limited to a select few titles as PS4 (Final Fantasy, Bloodborne, Dragon Quest & Yakuza) is simply nonexistent in Japan, and the rest are for 3DS titles.

Disgae will be left in the gutter and with niche titles doing less & less with every iteration at retail (Etrian Odyssey, Senran Kagura, etc.), I have a feeling it's going to be bad business ;.;
 
They definitely should give a Steam a chance with some ports.

Their games are running on the PhyreEngine, it natively supports the PC. You obviously can´t just press the "port from PS3 to PC"-button and the shit is done, but they wouldn´t have to...say....emulate the SEGA Saturn or something.
 
Well I'll be buying it so there is one sale! NIS is one of my favorite companies so then closing would actually be sad for me as a gamer.
 
I adopted a PS3 really late. I never bought a single Disgaea during that gen and my excuse now is that they are super long games and my ocd will kick in and it'll take forever. Disgaea 4 always looked really good to me.

As long as it's got it's normal hooks, I'm willing to buy Disgaea 5. I was kinda waiting for the sprites to get better but 4 already went there.

I might be double posting here but I just had to say Disgaea 4 is probably my 2nd favorite one after the original Disgaea. It's fantastic.
 
I don't know, I think of myself as a Disgaea fan but I probably will skip Disgaea 5.

I loved D1 and D2. I thought the games had depth and almost infinite replayability.

But I got older. Time became more precious. It became harder to justify sinking in 200+ hours just to max out a core group of units.

I hope there's still a sizable number of fans who will continue to support them though.
 
I don't know AniHawk, it could, but retail presence will be limited to a select few titles as PS4 (Final Fantasy, Bloodborne, Dragon Quest & Yakuza) is simply nonexistent in Japan, and the rest are for 3DS titles.

Disgae will be left in the gutter and with niche titles doing less & less with every iteration at retail (Etrian Odyssey, Senran Kagura, etc.), I have a feeling it's going to be bad business ;.;

i find it's doubtful too. i really don't think anyone with a heavy investment on sony's hardware in japan really saw this downfall coming. it's probably the best chance they have though, since they're adamant about the game hitting this fiscal year.
 
They definitely should give a Steam a chance with some ports.

Their games are running on the PhyreEngine, it natively supports the PC. You obviously can´t just press the "port from PS3 to PC"-button and the shit is done, but they wouldn´t have to...say....emulate the SEGA Saturn or something.

i imagine that if they try with steam, they'll start with the first disgaea so they can rerelease the entire series again. for that, it means a remake of disgaea 1 (again).
 
But I got older. Time became more precious. It became harder to justify sinking in 200+ hours just to max out a core group of units.
It's good if Disgaea 5 adopt the streamlined system from Disgaea D2. The cheat shop decrease grinding tremendously. Can upgrade a common item to legendary? priceless.
I hope they stop the item world pirate nonsense though.
 
It's good if Disgaea 5 adopt the streamlined system from Disgaea D2. The cheat shop decrease grinding tremendously. Can upgrade a common item to legendary? priceless.
I hope they stop the item world pirate nonsense though.

This.
The grinding and leveling up your weapon is stupid.
Same with rebirth/mentor BS.

Just give us a straight forward, less grindly, shared EXP game.
People play the Disgaea series for the humors and the characters....the overall gameplay sucks.
 
Sorry but I don't believe them.
No Japanese company put its future in a PS4 exclusive game...

Why not? They certainly did with a PS3 exclusive game.

Small niche company, nice product, but they really should have tried to expand to other platforms, they kind of did this to themselves...

Yatōkiri_Kilgharrah;142641466 said:
I dont know why these niche companies end up focusing only on playstation when there are systems with a wider userbase for them.

I remember a long time ago in the Disgaea 4 announcement thread or something, someone argued that they had an "established market" on PlayStation platforms that wouldn't exist anywhere else. I argued that no one has tried and it's a moot point until someone does, since you don't know how much money you've left on the table until you actually come to the table.

I'm glad to see that I was right. So much for an "established market" if they're in dire straits.

Bigger userbase doesn't always mean bigger sales.

How would they know? The last large user base they developed for was PS2. Which was coincidentally where they had their biggest sales successes.
 
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