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No Man's Sky Spoiler Thread
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Generalpsyduck
Banned
Joe danger 3
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
Wait, can someone tell me whats going on here?
So what about your "hundreds of hours to get to the center"? Dude made it quick because it was a galaxy and you've posted about 100s of hours to the center of the universe. It would appear yourv only option is to get to the center of a galaxy. Which can be done as fast as 35 hours.
Alex Stroud
Banned
A video of Sean Murray doing karaoke over a starry backdrop
So you can't, thanks.
FreeQuebec86
Member
I think the "18 quintillion" planet are just the "Seeds" possibility.
Like with their program/formula. The game could procedural/create 18 quintillion possibility.
People seem to over hype the game, like each planet were placed/created by the devs. But it's just random. And the number 18 quintillion is just the probability of their game code.
That's why i think that MP is impossible. as the game "map itself" while you are playing. Without any pre-determined map.
And i think that when you "discover" things and name them. Other player might load-up your planet. EVEN if they are not at the "same place/spot". Like your planet just become a news "loading seed" for their game.
And pretty sure the "end game" is the center of the galaxy. After then it's NG+, you just restard, with all your gear/weapons and go reach a other center of "galaxy". But it's just the game restarting, and re-create seed for you.
I admit, this game is so much over-hype lol. Last game like that was GTA online with some GTA fans had crazy theories about what could be possible or not lol.
Like with their program/formula. The game could procedural/create 18 quintillion possibility.
People seem to over hype the game, like each planet were placed/created by the devs. But it's just random. And the number 18 quintillion is just the probability of their game code.
That's why i think that MP is impossible. as the game "map itself" while you are playing. Without any pre-determined map.
And i think that when you "discover" things and name them. Other player might load-up your planet. EVEN if they are not at the "same place/spot". Like your planet just become a news "loading seed" for their game.
And pretty sure the "end game" is the center of the galaxy. After then it's NG+, you just restard, with all your gear/weapons and go reach a other center of "galaxy". But it's just the game restarting, and re-create seed for you.
I admit, this game is so much over-hype lol. Last game like that was GTA online with some GTA fans had crazy theories about what could be possible or not lol.
Official line is 40-100 hours to the center (i.e. that's what Sean said, but this reddit poster clearly mainlined and beat it) but I guess theoretically you could spend your entire life before reaching the center
The map is pre-determined. It's just built using a procedural algorithm. The algorithm spits out a huge 'spreadsheet' of the galaxy and the game only renders the spreadsheet as you approach each cell on it.
18 quintillion is the absolute maximum you can output with 64-bit machines, IIRC. So they just let their procedural engine build a universe as big as it mathematically could: 18 quintillion planets.
A mess. Just a mess.
Pattycakes
Banned
I think you want to do 180,000,000 galaxies times 30 hours each, not divide by thirty hours each, to get the total hours which would be 5.4 billion hours total.
VlaudTheImpaler
tl;dr
Crap. I knew I'd screw it up somehow lol. Recalculating.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
Like what? I have no clue. Why is Sean possibly the next Peter? Help me understand plz.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I think the leaker clocked in 35ish hours, nd thats after doing the currency exploit/rushing to the center?
Meaning that if you play the game to explore and take it in without a rush, than itll last you longer.
Glass Shark
Banned
[citation needed]
Deffo.
And the reddit poster says he's still keen to wake up tomorrow and have 'a crack at it', as if there's still a lot to do.
All very curious indeed.
It seems totally off that he hasn't experienced any of the 'algorithm breaking' stuff yet. The developers waxed lyrical about that. I sincerely don't believe it's not in the game.
All very strange.
Damn... Its you again, My old nemesis/friend of FFXV. This is worst than the FFXV thread BTW. But is this about losing tho? You are an explorer in a game about exploration. So thats about it, why people are so mad about this game? Because isn't what they imagine all along?
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Pattycakes
Banned
There's also some bugs? (not sure if they're confirmed or not) that he talked about like the multitool starting off really good, and getting worse/slower with upgrades. So the person may have been able to get going faster than intended thanks the bug?
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
FreeQuebec86
Member
Yeah but it's still just 18 quintillion random seed lol. Like it's not "really there". They said 18 quintillion because of the possibility of the code. So 2 planet will be the same except 1 lilttle things.
The only things they "set-up" are quest/storyline. All other is just random coding.
Like it's not "really there", if you see what i mean. Just like playing starbond. Random generated planet.
This is pretty accurate: https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/4vjbt8/this_sub_in_the_past_48_hours/
Long time ago I learned to jump right to 'Acceptance' several months before any game was released. Not getting drawn up into piles of hype, system wars, etc makes gaming a lot more pleasant.
Not that I don't get disappointed if certain games don't turn out like I would hope, I'm just willing to take them and judge them for what they are rather than what I imagined or PR portrayed.
VlaudTheImpaler
tl;dr
That is quite the understatement...
Now I am not good at the maths and could end up embarrassing myself here so I'm going to write this as if I where 5 lol...
It is known that there are 18 quintillion planets in the game.
Lets say that the galaxies are indeed in a straight line as you say.
Lets say there are roughly 10 billion planets per galaxy.
18 quintillion divided by 10 billion = 180,000,000
So, 180 million separate galaxies.
It took the leaker about 35 hours to get to the center of the first galaxy.
Lets say he spent about 5 hours of that upgrading and exploring and just call it an even 30 hours to get to the center. Especially since he said he was rushing through We can then use this to estimate the time it would take to rush through the rest of the galaxies.
We then have 180,000,000 galaxies to get through at 30 hours each.
So, 180,000,000 divided by 30 = 5,400,000,000
That's 5.4 billion hours.
There are on average 8,766 hours in a year.
So 5.4 billion divided by 8766 = 616,016 years...
My question to you would then be how many years do you have to play for things to start getting weird?
EDIT: Fixed hopefully.
I suspect the leaker basically sold off items that's probably relevant to various side quests etc and in essence just did the "main quest". Strange that the devs allowed this kind of gameplay, but I guess they have their reasons.
(Their reasons could also include being bad at game design)
(Their reasons could also include being bad at game design)
He specifically said the Atlas Stones as they are called can be easily gotten infinitely "while eating a sandwich"
Pattycakes
Banned
Well he said the main thing that he said changed the units for him was Atlas Stones. Up til then it was fairly balanced with supply/demand for units, but Atlas Stones were worth so much units became no issue for him.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
LOL. Yeah, slight understatement. I'm still waiting on my 'buddies' above response about the video I just posted where Sean Murray says the goal is to get to the centre of the universe.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
I knew this game was a con from day one. The developers smartly played on people's latent fanboyism to talk up something that anyone with sense could see would be an impossible undertaking.
How on earth did anyone think that a small indie dev was able to code an entire universe, even procedurally?
Even more bizzare, how did anyone think that something of no man sky's supposed scope could be possible on anything outside the worlds most powerful super computers?
How on earth did anyone think that a small indie dev was able to code an entire universe, even procedurally?
Even more bizzare, how did anyone think that something of no man sky's supposed scope could be possible on anything outside the worlds most powerful super computers?
BreezyLimbo
Banned
One of the keypoints was that you can do whatever you want to get to the centre. Whether it was being a pirate, an explorer, or trader. So exploiting the economy is by all means intended.
Pattycakes
Banned
What? It looks by all measures they accomplished that.
Ahh. 'Random coding'. You really don't understand what you're talking about here. Procedural engines aren't random. They are designed. Designed to output countless variations on logical objects. The developers do have control over what's logical and what can or can't show up. They have control over each world's assets, colour possibilities, combinations of atmospheres, alien creature assets, animations, etc.
And it is 'really there'. The procedural engine makes a map, basically. It just draws the map based on formulae, and the formulae uses a seed as its root ingredients.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Here's the thing, there's a specific group of fans the goes like this:
A) people who know what the game itself offers.
B) driven by the hype train
C) driven by crazy expectations
Now to the skeptics/what do you do crowd:
A) the game looks boring
B) i don't know what you guys see in this game
C) "over promised"
There's a constant bickering back and forth between the two factions and both are trying to validate their beliefs. it's the ultimate " I told you so" game if ever I seen one. There's no middle ground and that's due to the "vagueness" that some find in Sean Murray communication of the game. Expectations are thru the roof and some I guess are realizing the game isn't what they thought it was and others are happy with what it is.
With numbers and stuff
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
still confused as to whats going on in here...
Pattycakes
Banned
Read the thread maybe?
Developers are out to get us now, are they?
... But they did
Netherscourge
Banned
Some dude paid over $1000 for an early copy.
He's been playing it since Friday.
He found something called an Atlas Stone that sells for a ton of in-game cash. He was kinda/sorta just farming those and buying updated spaceships rather than going through the whole mining/trading/space pirating stuff.
He was able to skip most of the gameplay and zip all the way to the center of the galaxy WAY sooner than Hello Games probably thought we all would.
Once there, he was teleported to a whole new galaxy, where he's doing it all over again.
The End.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
I'm trying, i'm slightly confused.
Is it short? Not as many promised planets, galaxies? Center is actually in a galaxy? No center?
Oh okay, thank you.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
So uhm the mods of the subreddit just posted this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyT...have_collected_some_evidence_that_the_leaked/
https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyT...have_collected_some_evidence_that_the_leaked/
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
It's one consecutive galaxy after another with the ultimate goal of reaching the centre of the universe. It's impossible to do though.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Out to get your money, yes.
No, the have created a small scale model of a galaxy, with variations. Far from infintely expanding universe. This is not to take away from their achievement, but far from what this game was being hyped up to be.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
NoctisVsStar
Member
Ashamed of my words and deeds? Still waiting Kojima.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Well that explains why everything was backwards. I thought that was odd and it looks like I owe someone an apology. You could be right. Sorry.
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
I've been lurking this thread for some time now but I gotta post.
What the fuck is going on lol
Someone made some nice gifs from the official videos of the game. The various things in the game
As for space combat.. its in the game as well
https://youtu.be/nmmE083XmUc
GIFS!!
As for space combat.. its in the game as well
https://youtu.be/nmmE083XmUc
The backwards levelling thing is weird.
What did he mean by this?
Member
This is madness