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North American Nintendo Switch Lineup

The lack of indie games is particularly noticeable.

Either Nintendo just isn't featuring or detailing them because they're morons or they took forever to send any smaller developers devkits.

A substantial indie game feature could have significantly helped the look of the lineup.
 
Why are they so quiet on VC? I'm sure it would make a difference to some people.. will there be another presentation before launch?

Because "And now you can buy all those games you already bought on the Wii and Wii U again!" Probably wouldn't go down too well on the stream lol
 
No wonder they brought forward the release of zelda. Mario kart 8 surely could be ported in time for launch

I have no doubt that Mario Kart is finished and just waiting release. Looking at the lineup it seems like they're hoping it'll tide people over until Arms and Splatoon 2 closer to summer.

The lack of indie games is particularly noticeable.

Either Nintendo just isn't featuring or detailing them because they're morons or they took forever to send any smaller developers devkits.

A substantial indie game feature could have significantly helped the look of the lineup.

We already know Shovel Knight and Binding of Isaac are on their way the system. They just didn't want to show them off, more likely.
 
Consolidating their software teams! What a pathetic launch lineup given their lack of output for the past year on WiiU.

So much for that theory that Wii U was an "interim console" while they got their shit together. NOPE, they just don't have the resources for HD games still.
 
So much for that theory that Wii U was an "interim console" while they got their shit together. NOPE, they just don't have the resources for HD games still.

They do so, they just don't have the mental and strategic capacity to make compelling hardware anymore and they along with their hardest of hardcore refuse to see it.
 
Zelda is great but the lack of titles for launch...ouch. I feel like this should have been pushed back to at least launch with Mario.
 
Nintendo has done this for their last few launches. They announce a system with limited to no 1st party games because they know consumers will only buy Nintendo games if given the choice. Their thinking is that by not offering 1st party games people will buy 3rd party games which will increase 3rd party willingness to make more games. It never works though because they fail to get an install base without a strong 1st party lineup so the 3rd party games they do get are low tier trash, since there isn't a big enough user base to warrant 3rd parties investing real money into the system yet.

I really would have expected them to realize it this time around. I hope they give in after 3 months and just flood the market with stuff they were planning to sit on for later.
 
Where is the smash port? Very weak launch lineup other than Zelda IMHO.

They are betting that 1 2 Switch is going to be like Wii Sports.
 
You must have had fun with the N64 launch lineup.

European launch: March 1, 1997

FIFA Soccer 64
Pilotwings 64
Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire
Super Mario 64
Turok: Dinosaur Hunter
Wayne Gretzky's 3D Hockey

I bought Super Mario 64 at launch and that was not only a game only available on N64, for me it was also the very first game that wasn't 2D, hence it blew me away and for me thus was a killer app. Zelda I can simply buy for Wii U. It's not even close..
 
Just messaged the family to not bother running out for a preorder. This is the first console in my gaming lifetime where there wasn't a single launch game I wanted to play.

Zelda means nothing. It's on Wi U.
 
Where is the smash port? Very weak launch lineup other than Zelda IMHO.

They are betting that 1 2 Switch is going to be like Wii Sports.

If they wanted that they should have packaged it with the goddamn thing.

Seriously, Nintendo's ego is something to both sigh at and admire in a weird way. Only they would launch a vastly underpowered system at the same price as their more state of the art competitors, then not even include a simple game with it.
 
That NA launch is... Sparse... I'll hold off on grabbing a switch until its library grows a bit and we learn how VC is going to function.
 
They do so, they just don't have the mental and strategic capacity to make compelling hardware anymore and they along with their hardest of hardcore refuse to see it.

So this lineup isn't anemic and I don't want the system because of the hardware?
 
Good Christ... I may only be picking up one game at launch, a game I could buy for a system I already have. I never thought Nintendo would screw the pooch this bad.
 
Setsuna feels like a batman armored edition, or mass effect 3 on wii u situation. Who really cares about that game at this point?

That said, I'm sure botw will hold me over for a long time(despite the fact that I could play it just fine on wii u), and I can't believe there's a new bomberman game, pretty psyched about that.

Nintendo really need to turn the release schedule up.
 
Does it matter if has 19 launch games. I mean I'll be picking up Zelda, Setsuna, and 1 2 3 Switch at launch. I also have an Xbox one so I'll be playing mass effect is March and Mario Kart drops in April.


Crying about launch line ups doesn't make sense if your a modern gamer with more than one system. I rarely buy games compared to most of the backlog warriors on this site but somehow it's not enough.


I'll agree from a commercial perspective it's kinda ass and Arms should have been there at launch.


With how the Wii U went with droughts after droughts, Its concerning. This seems very quickly put together.


Oh and I already own a Wii U so Breath of the Wild I can play on there
 
So this lineup isn't anemic and I don't want the system because of the hardware?

If you want this thing because of the hardware, I would love for you to explain why. I am legitimately curious.

Not only is BOTW perfectly possible on PS4/Xbone, it would probably be even better than it already looks. That is the greatest tragedy for me above all else.
 
They did announce a lot of games for 2017. I honestly don't know what some of you were expecting.

1 game for April, 3 game generically for Spring 2017, one game for Summer 2017, 2 games for Fall 2017 and the rest God knows when. But sure, it's too much to ask to have enough games to play without droughts on your brand new console.

Remember when Emily Rogers said Switch launch lineup would blow the Wii U out the water? Yeah, good times.

You might want to check that quote. Because you don't remember well.
 
They do so, they just don't have the mental and strategic capacity to make compelling hardware anymore and they along with their hardest of hardcore refuse to see it.

The hardware has nothing to do with it. If they had a good software lineup nobody would care. Their strategic incompetency is software. I have no idea how they thought this would be acceptable after what they just came out of. I guess they think Zelda is enough to keep them afloat for now. I'm nowhere near convinced that is the case.
 
Maybe we will get some more clarity and some surprised at the NYC event today, but right now launch is absolutely anemic. Nintendo is really banking far too heavily on Zelda. Splatoon 2 or Mario Odyssey should have been there.
 
Pretty meh.
There are 2 games on there that interest me. Zelda an Mario.(and SMT, but that's like 2019 if we are lucky)
And I won't spend $300 for 2 games. (I also still have my reservations about Zelda).

But it's Nintendo. Over the years the system will get a solid list of exclusives, and at that point it will be worth it.
 
The launch lineup is largely fine. I mean what, at the XBO launch people were playing Ryse: Son of Rome?

The real problem is how barebones the next six months after launch look
 
The hardware has nothing to do with it

The hardware has everything to do with it. If the Switch was at least on par with the Xbone, the third parties would be there and we wouldn't be sitting here baffled as to why Nintendo are releasing yet another overpriced device with no games.
 
The real problem is how barebones the next six months after launch look

Seriously. I'm starting to get nervous we will somehow see a huge drought of games this year. I think they saved some announcements for E3 of course, but for now it looks like I'll be only playing Zelda for the next couple months :/ which might be what I'd be doing anyway tbh
 
We already know Shovel Knight and Binding of Isaac are on their way the system. They just didn't want to show them off, more likely.

The fact they think having Suda get up there to show a piece of concept art over detailing indie games coming near launch shows everything wrong with Nintendo's state of mind.
 
Ooooh sonce I missed out on I Am Setsuna and always wanted to play it, I may pick up the Switch at launch with Zelda, I Am Setsuna, and Bomberman R. I'm satisfied with that.
 
The hardware has everything to do with it. If the Switch was at least on par with the Xbone, the third parties would be there and we wouldn't be sitting here baffled as to why Nintendo are releasing yet another overpriced device with no games.

Third parties being there is not what Nintendo should or would be banking on for their success. They needed to have a beefed up first/second party line up. That is where they made their mistake. The hardware being portable makes "it needs to be on par with Xbone" moot. They messed up with software. That is the real issue.
 
Besides the launch, just look at this:

April 28, 2017
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe $59.99

Spring 2017
Arms $59.99
Lego City Undercover
Sonic Mania

Summer 2017
Splatoon 2

This is where the terrible story of this conference lies.
 
The hardware has everything to do with it. If the Switch was at least on par with the Xbone, the third parties would be there and we wouldn't be sitting here baffled as to why Nintendo are releasing yet another overpriced device with no games.
I'm not so sure about that.

Even with a technically comparable system in the GC/PS2/Xbox V1 era, Nintendo missed out on a TON of third-party titles due to their poor third-party relations and the stigma that non-Nintendo games would sell comparably poorly due to people largely buying Nintendo systems for Nintendo games. And, over the years, that's been a factual statement outside of dance games and Sonic titles.

I don't believe third parties would have been there even if Nintendo sold a system superior to the PS4 Pro for a price cheaper than the Xbox One S. At least as far as console efforts are concerned... hopefully Japanese-developed titles aimed at traditional handheld gamers will materialize over time but my expectations on that front are pretty subdued as well. I mean, hell... there isn't even a Monster Hunter announcement.
 
I'm not hating on Nintendo cause I'm salty.

But damn, are you really this oblivious to what people want from around the world?

Some of these higher ups at Nintendo are paid millions of dollars a year. This is all you come up with in regards to launch and third parties storing the system?

Again, I'm not salty. But a word of warning, I fully expect fifa and NBA to be cancelled, if Switch falters after initial launch.
 
Besides the launch, just look at this:



This is where the terrible story of this conference lies.

Yep. This is why I'm going to wait until at least the Summer.

I want to have at least a few games to play when it comes out; by having only Zelda for so long (since I refuse to pay for the online service and it won't even be available in the UK at launch) it'll just collect dust and I'll end up wasting money on games I wouldn't have bought otherwise. Zelda and Lego City are the only two games I'd be getting until the Holidays, and we have no clue what else will be there beside Mario.
 
Nintendo has done this for their last few launches. They announce a system with limited to no 1st party games because they know consumers will only buy Nintendo games if given the choice. Their thinking is that by not offering 1st party games people will buy 3rd party games which will increase 3rd party willingness to make more games. It never works though because they fail to get an install base without a strong 1st party lineup so the 3rd party games they do get are low tier trash, since there isn't a big enough user base to warrant 3rd parties investing real money into the system yet.

I really would have expected them to realize it this time around. I hope they give in after 3 months and just flood the market with stuff they were planning to sit on for later.
It also doesn't work when there are no real third party games either. Disgaea is the most substantial third party game at launch and it's been out for half a year on another system. Are a bomberman remake and a new version of SF2 supposed to be exciting third party games we want to buy?
 
The fact they think having Suda get up there to show a piece of concept art over detailing indie games coming near launch shows everything wrong with Nintendo's state of mind.

The Suda segment was embarrassing for sure, it doesn't make much sense they kept him on stage rambling for a minute rather than show off games that exist.
 
If you want this thing because of the hardware, I would love for you to explain why. I am legitimately curious.

Not only is BOTW perfectly possible on PS4/Xbone, it would probably be even better than it already looks. That is the greatest tragedy for me above all else.

Hardware's mostly irrelevant to me. I buy hardware for games, and this thing does not have them yet.

The hardware has everything to do with it. If the Switch was at least on par with the Xbone, the third parties would be there and we wouldn't be sitting here baffled as to why Nintendo are releasing yet another overpriced device with no games.

If your position is hardware matters for getting 3rd parties on board and thus getting games, we are in agreement.
 
The launch line up and window has me scratching my head. They have been planning this console for quite a while now, but can't even muster to get some Wii U ports on the system day 1? If it had Mario Kart, Smash, and even some more recent 3DS titles put on there, it would look like a killer launch line up. Also, with the new and improved joy-con, a wii-sports type game would have been great to launch with too. Since hardly anyone owned a Wii U, many of the titles would have felt fresh as well.

Just get some quick ports of the WiiU gems on it for christ's sake.
 
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