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North Korea just shelled them some South Korea

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Jea Song said:
Let's just say the worst happens. There is continued attacks on both sides. What happens then? What does the US do? And how is Japan involved?

How long do you think the conflict would last?
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It should not last too long, both are experienced enough to gg out once they know they've lost
 
iamaustrian said:
I will quote some of the facts for all the "NK's army is a joke"-sayers:


note that this is only the visible stuff. they have tons of artillery in bunkers under surface.
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This is what it says later on, though.

"1.4. Air Defenses of Pyongyang: Conclusion
We’ve seem that Pyongyang is heavily defended, but there is the inescapable reality that (*thankfully*) these types of defenses don’t count for much in a modern battle. It is possible that the huge volume of AAA concentrated is designed to tackle Tomahawk cruise missiles, but even then they seem weak. The logical counter to cruise missiles is sophisticated fast response targeting systems integrated with highly agile SAMs and autominous air defense guns or lasers. Clearly crewed AAA is going to have a very difficult time intercepting cruise missiles even if they are primed with approach angles etc. If North Korea possessed such systems then they would logically decommission the expensive AAA network and redeploy the resources to other activities – the high level of maintenance and preparedness visible at the AAA sites is evidence that this is not the case.

If the cornerstone of North Korean AAA doctrine is intercepting cruise missiles, then time has once again overtaken it. With North Korea’s high altitude SAM systems now too outdated to provide credible deterrence against high flying aircraft, there’s nothing stopping an enemy air force simply flying over top of the AAA (which is not useful against high and fast targets) and dropping comparatively cheap JDAMs or other PGMs on the sites. Add an adversary with stealth aircraft to the equation….

So is there, objectively speaking, a strength to the North Korean AAA rings? Well, if North Korea suddenly obtains high capability SAMs like S-300 to force an aggressor to fly low (as was the original doctrine it seems), then yes. But even then stealth technology would win again. So short of preventing the ROKAF from their flying F-15s in a lap of honor around Pyongyang at 2,000ft, no, it’s a huge waste of resources."
 
iamaustrian said:
I will quote some of the facts for all the "NK's army is a joke"-sayers:


note that this is only the visible stuff. they have tons of artillery in bunkers under surface.
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you're only looking at the start of that page though. further down it describes how their bunkers are basically worthless against our current bombs.
 
Well the fact that NK is lieing about it and dont want to be blamed means they don't want to start a war, and SK certainly aren't going to start a war.

So crisis adverted for a little while longer.
 
Wes said:
Reuters: North Korea authorities are saying South Korea fired first.

via BBC Radio
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Those poor North Koreans, they are the real victims here. Now I feel bad for believing the South Korean propaganda.
 
thepotatoman said:
Well the fact that NK is lieing about it and dont want to be blamed means they don't want to start a war, and SK certainly aren't going to start a war.

So crisis adverted for a little while longer.
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pretty much. time to go to bed. NK again is up to bullshit and will get off scot-free.
 
Zinga said:
I just want to say that the Bluffers guide isn't 100% accurate... I mean no one knew that North Korea had S-300 SAM systems (or at least copies of them) until the 65th anniversary parade last month.. there's only so much that Google maps can tell us
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Yeah but it is a great reference for people, saying something fires 2000km means nothing to most people. graphing it to google maps makes it a lot easier to actually visualize what the capabilities are and put it into a more realistic perspective. Then again, I'm a sucker wartime graphs/battle plans

/nerd
 
Zinga said:
I just want to say that the Bluffers guide isn't 100% accurate... I mean no one knew that North Korea had S-300 SAM systems (or at least copies of them) until the 65th anniversary parade last month.. there's only so much that Google maps can tell us
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Wait do you really think that the military has no better info than google maps?

That these military forum guys studying google maps are more knowledgeable than all the militry commanders around the world?

I hope to god that you are wrong. lol
 
benjipwns said:
Man, that's pretty bitchin. I'd have a lot more respect if they actually had those types of lairs. All good villains need an epic lair.
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My favorite part easily is the "Bin Laden has been seen traveling the area via horseback" w/ an accompanying graphic LOL
 
delirium said:
(URGENT) N. Korea's military command vows "merciless" military strike against S Korea

http://twitter.com/YonhapNews
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are these guys usually reputable?

could be a SK smear, of sorts. instantly vilify the common 'enemy', get attention, etc

it doesn't link to a page like the other tweets, although this could be because it is (URGENT)
 
As someone said on the BBC feed, if this is just sabre rattling then they're doing a darn good job.
 
Rez said:
are these guys usually reputable?

could be a SK smear, of sorts. instantly vilify the common 'enemy', get attention, etc

it doesn't link to a page like the other tweets, although this could be because it is (URGENT)
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Yonhap is the only news agency based in South Korea according to Wikipedia. Meaning, they just don't report the news but rather go out and gather news.
 
Guys, please, think for a second.

If North Korea really were intending to launch a full scale offensive against South Korea, do you think they would preface it by announcing it publicly to the world?
 
delirium said:
Yonhap is the only news agency based in South Korea according to Wikipedia. Meaning, they just don't report the news but rather go out and gather news.
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The cynic in me wants to automatically assume bias and alarmism, but we shall see.
 
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North-Korea: We will continue to attack

translated
 
Ignis Fatuus said:
Guys, please, think for a second.

If North Korea really were intending to launch a full scale offensive against South Korea, do you think they would preface it by announcing it publicly to the world?
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Yes, actually I think they would. It makes no difference whether they announce it or not, since they're crazy and they might or might not do it anyway. Not that I think it would actually happen, but that doesn't mean it's out of the question.
 
Ignis Fatuus said:
Guys, please, think for a second.

If North Korea really were intending to launch a full scale offensive against South Korea, do you think they would preface it by announcing it publicly to the world?
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It´s not like anyone would believe them, though.

Perfect double bluff?
 
I sourced that norweigan article back to the Associated Press

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_KOREAS_CLASH?SITE=AZMES&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

NKorea threatens continued strikes on South

By KWANG-TAE KIM



SEOUL, South Korea (AP) -- North Korea is threatening to continue launching strikes against South Korea if it violates their disputed sea border "even 0.001 millimeter."

North Korea's supreme military command said Tuesday that it would "launch merciless military retaliatory strikes."

The warning was carried by North Korea's official Korean Central News Agency.

The comments followed North Korea's bombardment of a South Korean island near their disputed western border Tuesday. South Korean officials said the barrage set buildings ablaze and killed at least one marine after the North warned the South to halt military drills in the area.
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