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NPD Sales Results for January 2014 [Up3: PS4/XB1 #1/#2 best selling; Poke/SM3DW/ALBW]
- Thread starter Nirolak
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Lol.
Seriously, people saying "console gaming is dying"? Why? Because:
- ninty released a product people didn't want?
- MS fucked up. DRM. PR nightmare following the DRM feature announcement, with them talking to fans like they're idiots. Less powerful hardware. More expensive. And its key unique features no one cares about.
- Sony is legitimately supply constrained. Its selling everything it ships. Its just now this month getting more, and larger shipments out finally and they sell out in 24-48hrs. They're not on shelves. There's your evidence.
Sony outplayed MS and ninty. And they're legitimately supply constrained. Consoles, ones people want, are just fine.
Seriously, people saying "console gaming is dying"? Why? Because:
- ninty released a product people didn't want?
- MS fucked up. DRM. PR nightmare following the DRM feature announcement, with them talking to fans like they're idiots. Less powerful hardware. More expensive. And its key unique features no one cares about.
- Sony is legitimately supply constrained. Its selling everything it ships. Its just now this month getting more, and larger shipments out finally and they sell out in 24-48hrs. They're not on shelves. There's your evidence.
Sony outplayed MS and ninty. And they're legitimately supply constrained. Consoles, ones people want, are just fine.
There is without a doubt truth in this post.
All from this thread.
CurlySaysX
Banned
I guess you could say that a titan has fallen.
Hitokiri03
Member
His last tweet was 8 hours ago.
ROFL
Quadraphonic
Member
The reason people are saying that is because they are with the mentality of "If Microsoft goes down, then we all have to go down."
Look back to any Xbox One thread about resolution. You'll see lots of people saying "Well, if BOTH next gen consoles can't get 1080p60, then we shouldn't push for that" completely ignoring that the PS4 has hit 1080p60 just fine on most of their titles.
The idea is that if they pretend Microsoft and Sony are in the same boat, even if it's sinking, then that's better for them, because it means they didn't pick the wrong horse. (Yay for mixing metaphors!)
So now that MS is not leading anymore, no more numbers from MS. And Sony also does not provide numbers. These NPD threads are a wasteland now...
Either Titanfall doesn't sell, then EA might sell it to MS. Or Titanfall sells great, then EA will go PS4 as well. MS would have to pay a billion dollars upwards to get exclusivity.
Mass Effect went to PS3, even the first one originally published by MS. And that was with a stronger MS position.
Either Titanfall doesn't sell, then EA might sell it to MS. Or Titanfall sells great, then EA will go PS4 as well. MS would have to pay a billion dollars upwards to get exclusivity.
Mass Effect went to PS3, even the first one originally published by MS. And that was with a stronger MS position.
Simon Says
Banned
Your point being? Haven't gotten a response yet.
dragonfart28
Banned
So is this the part where we start making excuses for next gen?
Because those are some pretty ugly numbers for an industry that's supposed to be growing.
Because those are some pretty ugly numbers for an industry that's supposed to be growing.
ionicbluebird
Member
Also.. just want to reiterate, Sony was shifting as much of January's PS4 stock as possible to December for the holidays... they might have not had much left over.. at least for the first couple weeks. That's my conjecture.
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
You made me lol irl
razgriz417
Member
Bravo.
Wow guess MS can't move a $500 box on Kinect & TV alone. Really curious how this month's NPD will look now that Sony is more than likely stockpiling for the Japanese launch next week
mario_O
Member
Jeez haha
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
Oh, we kinda already knew what platforms you had, don't you worry.
Chezzymann
Member
The problem is that, apparently, the PS4 is the only "next gen" system people want now. And its probably not going to do anywhere near PS2 numbers. So the market is going to shrink a lot compared to the 7th gen.
Do handheld consoles, or gen 7 consoles exist in your world?
Well, great. I updated because I sold my 360 and PS3 before christmas for the new systems.
My point being that you've got plenty of responses. You never bothered to reply to any of them to elaborate what exactly you're looking for.
Simon Says
Banned
Easily amused huh?
BotoxAgent
Member
4 weeks vs 5 weeks jan comparision. Wii was a phenomenon ps4 is a great success so far but not a cultural phenomenon.
Sony also air shipped consoles to meet holiday demand = lesser units for Jan. Sony is out in a lot more countries. And many of their strong european markets are very supply constrained (germany has waits till June or July if you order now accoding to a post I read) so redirecting consoles to Europe makes sense. And thats not even taking into account the upcoming Japan launch ... People aren't saying Sony isnt producing enough but taking the 270ish number and taking that as a demand constraint is not correct imo. There is ample demand for ps4. Its constantly sold out in many places in the Us where I think supply has been the most stable.
For example my roommate has been meaning to buy one since late December and he still hasnt tracked one down. (He's a casual so hes not on gaf constantly where it goes up for a few days on amazon and you snag one. Proper supply demand equilazation where a casual can randomly walk into a store and buy one is not the case. Atleast here in the Us where I'm currently (Penn State) )
Does that have a history of happening after a console launch? games drought and all that.
LegendofLex
Member
I remember them having unexpected amounts of supply at launch. What happened to that?
Steve Youngblood
Member
I don't think you can deny that there were supply constraints with the PS4. However, I do think you can question the extent to which it may have been a problem. This is a difficult thing to guess at, and we'll probably have to wait to see how things stabilize in February and March (if they do indeed stabilize). But if I were to go out on a limb and just take an admitted stab, I personally don't think it was that big of a problem for them. Obviously, they would have sold more if there were no supply constraints at all, but I'm certainly not convinced of #DatThirst (I promise you that I didn't make this hash tag up) being this major problem where PS4s are still selling out almost as soon as they come in.
Still, it put up very impressive holiday numbers, so I'm not going to be too weary just yet. However, if I was someone who was worried about the state of console gaming before the launch of the PS4 and Xbox One, I don't find these numbers very reassuring. The PS4 numbers seem decent, perhaps even good if you allow for supply constraint bringing them down. But if I were heavily invested in seeing any console turn out to be the next unstoppable juggernaut that won't slow down, I'm certainly not uncorking a bottle of champagne looking at these figures.
Still, it put up very impressive holiday numbers, so I'm not going to be too weary just yet. However, if I was someone who was worried about the state of console gaming before the launch of the PS4 and Xbox One, I don't find these numbers very reassuring. The PS4 numbers seem decent, perhaps even good if you allow for supply constraint bringing them down. But if I were heavily invested in seeing any console turn out to be the next unstoppable juggernaut that won't slow down, I'm certainly not uncorking a bottle of champagne looking at these figures.
console gaming is dying because....
- there's no huge hook like having a dvd player or having a system that can play netflix.
- there's a million different devices that people can use to play games these days with more competitors entering the market everyday.
- consoles sold last gen just off the hype of all your favorite franchises getting bigger and better...... well as it turned out almost all franchises turned into total and utter shit. Can't sell consoles just from hype anymore. Rebranding Versus XIII into FFXV isn't going to fool anyone.
- also developers/ publishers have been treating gamers like trash for years acting like were "entitled" for expecting quality products. Well now all you guys get to reap all the rewards of shitting on your fanbases for years!
- there's no huge hook like having a dvd player or having a system that can play netflix.
- there's a million different devices that people can use to play games these days with more competitors entering the market everyday.
- consoles sold last gen just off the hype of all your favorite franchises getting bigger and better...... well as it turned out almost all franchises turned into total and utter shit. Can't sell consoles just from hype anymore. Rebranding Versus XIII into FFXV isn't going to fool anyone.
- also developers/ publishers have been treating gamers like trash for years acting like were "entitled" for expecting quality products. Well now all you guys get to reap all the rewards of shitting on your fanbases for years!
holy shit LOL
Quadraphonic
Member
But...
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/12/12/playstation-4-had-largest-console-launch-in-history
How is that possible? So far the PS4 is drastically outpacing the PS2. Saying it's "not going to do anywhere near PS2" numbers is insane with only 3 months in.
Simon Says
Banned
Eh, maybe it's because I am new to how this board works, but I didn't see blue anywhere on the posts, that means someone replied to or quoted you, I thought.
Either way, I don't see why you felt the need to post what you did in such a jerk way. More power to you if you wish to act like that though.
Dragonborn
Member
That's honestly what it sounds like. MS going down would be bad, sure, but it wouldn't be the end of the world. Someone else would jump in. And either way, the Era of Sony/Nintendo wasn't bad, neither was the PS2 era when Sony dominated. I don't see the issue. MS made a product people don't want, too bad, that's how the market works (same for Nintendo).
EightBitNate
Member
Funniest thing I've read in a while.
Gentleman Jack
Member
god damn
The big difference is that Microsoft had much stronger first party output back then to offset games like BioShock and Mass Effect 2 landing on PS3 (which never sold nearly as much months after the fact anyway).
Microsoft trying to keep Titanfall off of PS4 doesn't seem like a crazy idea to me. And since EA will be keeping it off of Steam, Destiny will be buying a red sports car for our man urk.
shinra-bansho
Member
There's also a heavy dose of "look it's not just the Wii U," since people still seem unwilling to accept that its colossal failure is the result of it being a bad product for the market. "It's not the product, it's the market."
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
Come on, man - you gotta admit that it's, at least, a little bit funny. And not in a bad way.
Hellsing321
Member
Those are some pretty awful Xbone numbers, but not that surprising consider its been easy to find one since before Christmas.
Aquamarine
Member
A wild Creamsugar appears!
Aaron Strife
Banned
remember when Resident Evil 4 (port of a game on two consoles already, including one that was playable on the console already), Red Steel, and Call of Duty 3 were all high sellers within the Wii's first year on the market
and then those publishers followed up with tests and mini-game collections which ensured no core gamer would be a Wii loyalist, thus perpetuating a self-fulfilling prophecy that third party games can't sell on Nintendo because every time a cool new third party exclusive was announced for the console (No More Heroes, Bayonetta 2, Epic Mickey, Madworld etc) were announced gamers started bitching about them not being on the other consoles
because I remember that quite well
How about that SONY Vita?
SarcasticD
Member
The "console gaming is dying" folks love seeing these numbers
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
A bit harsh, no? :/
shinra-bansho
Member
What about it? It's a colossal failure as well? Because it's also a bad product for a market that doesn't exist?
Producing is one thing. Shipping is completely different. Typically when Sony ships out consoles, it's by boat (since shipping costs are much cheaper). In December, due to demand, they probably moved up part of the January shipments to get them onto shelves faster. So if you wanted to make a good assumption of something like them shipping around 500K a month to the US, 250K of which was shipped by plane and the other 250K being shipped by boat. The first half arrived in December. The second half arrived in January.