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NPD Sales Results for July 2014 [Up1: 3DS LTDs, Wii U LTDs, Tomodachi]

Compbros

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Because it gives some publishers an excuse to be lazy I guess. I didn't mind PS2 remasters because those games were coming into HD for the first time but PS3 -> PS4 is kind of unnecessary.


To me it just gives people that may have missed some games for whatever reason a new chance to buy them as well as people nostalgic for them or fans of the series to play them again without needing to buy additional hardware.
 

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It's making me wonder if we'll see fewer new IPs this gen if devs are spending their resources pumping out reboots.
Just because developers and publishers could theoretically "pump out" remasters (not reboots, which is something totally different), doesn't mean people will actually buy all of them.

Some of them will sell quite well, like TLoU has or like GTA will, but others won't see such success. Tomb Raider didn't do all that amazingly (it did okay) and I doubt Sleeping Dogs will do well either.
 

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Call me a hypocrite, I didn't like the game that much but even I would buy if they did a PC version like Kojima is doing. Downsampled, MSAA and all the bells and whistles? I could stomach Lightning with that. Would also buy a japanese DLC, just to get rid of the english terrible voices.

The more japanese companies on the PC, the better it is to me.
 

Chobel

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So PS4 + XBO should be around/less than 384K.

And Wii U should be around/less than 81K.

Depending upon how loosely PR is rounding. I.e. being up 58% would probably still be considered being up "nearly 60%" and would be around 74K. Likewise Callahan's "close to 80%" could be something like 78%.

Hmm, software down, but wonder if software will be up next month with quite a few releases coming for current gen.
How did calculate PS4+XBO number?
 

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I foresee XB1 having underwhelming numbers. I am truly Nostradamus.

I would be totally fine with more PS2-era remasters. Last-gen updates are meh. I just wish devs would add some new content to the package besides simply improving or cleaning up what they already released. Especially with the still-paltry lineup on the new systems, I think anyone making a MGS2: Substance-style expansion/remaster of a proven favorite would move a lot of units.
 

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The only remasters that will be as succesfull as TLOUR will probably be GTA V and MCC. Cant see any other remaster do much, especially with the big multiplatforms about to come out.
They don't really have to do numbers like the ones you listed to have successful returns, the budgets aren't that big to begin with.
 

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mario kart is probably the biggest seller overall, but i would think smash and zelda have bigger debuts and push more systems. mario kart is more like most mario games... good consistent long term sellers, but not huge system movers
No, no, no.

Unless it's bundled everywhere, Smash isn't selling 2 mill in one week. Christmas will help it though if it's near.
Nevermind, even if it is bundled, it's not doing that. 3DS one can, though.

Same for Zelda. But for Zelda there's an even lower chance of selling that much.
Or pushing systems.
 

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Sure, at the same time though, the profit vs expense margin is probably lucrative enough that many would go for it, like we saw last gen. Not every remaster will sell as much or be as big, but the development costs also are nowhere as high, making the choice pretty straightforward.
Just say that you want that Mass Effect HD Trilogy :p
 

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I would love for Square to release Final Fantasy XIII: Tredecèm Lightning HD Crystallum Remixu HD
and see it bomb horribly and wonder where they went wrong
 

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So what games could do well remastered?

Dark souls 1 and 2 would probably do ok, but 1 would be more difficult.
 

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I kind of... don't like this.
It's ok for the classic status type games, or those that have mass popularity even now. I mean I'd welcome an Uncharted Trilogy Remaster, the Halo Collection, Ocarina of Time redone, GTA V, Bioshock, maybe even Demon Soul's etc. But games like Beyond Two Soul's or God of War Ascension, I just don't see the point.
 

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I'm pretty sure legacy platforms come in above Vita...

As to being acceptable, it's a matter of lowered expectations I guess. But for context, this is (at best) still worse than the worst $599 PS3 number, despite the release of the biggest game the platform will likely have. And it's about a third or more less than the equivalent month GCN sales. It's a far cry better than the 29K or so it did last year though.
Well, I was talking about eighth gen platforms... At this point, the only hope for Vita is that PlayStation TV somehow takes off because it's $140.
 

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Well how long was it before PS2 supply=demand? I don't think PS4 is going to have a Wii-like effect...it might actually be better if it doesn't.

Something closer to PS1/PS2 sales trends is healthier and seeing as they're still just warming up on the 1st-party front and most big games aren't dropping 'till next year and later, let alone Morpheus, I think it might be possible.
It was quite a while wasnt it? i dont remember exactly as that was a long time ago but i think it took quite awhile.

Im not saying console gaming is doomed btw, i think these sales show its healthy, but maybe only for two console makers at one time (for the core gamer market), more im just stating that the comarison of first 9 months of xbo+ps4>360+ps3 doesnt even come close to telling the entire story
 

shinra-bansho

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How did calculate PS4+XBO number?
When combining life-to-date sales of Xbox One and PS4 after nine months, and comparing them to the combined totals of nine months of sales for Xbox 360 and PS3, sales of the newest consoles are larger than the prior generation by close to 80 percent,”
~3.82M PS3s and 360s sold in their respective first 9 months. * 1.8

~6.491 PS4s and XBOs sold in their first 8 months. Difference is month 9.
 

truth411

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Personally the only remaster I would like to see is God of War 3 and Killzone 2 (pre control patch). Killzone 2 @ 1080/60fps would kick a$$.
 

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How did calculate PS4+XBO number?
Presumably from the venturebeat article in OP

http://venturebeat.com/2014/08/14/july-2014-npd-ps4-xbox-one-have-another-huge-month/

When combining life-to-date sales of Xbox One and PS4 after nine months, and comparing them to the combined totals of nine months of sales for Xbox 360 and PS3, sales of the newest consoles are larger than the prior generation by close to 80 percent,” said Callahan.
And then extrapolating based on 360 and PS3 LTD's in comparable timeframes
 

darkstar0155

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No, no, no.

Unless it's bundled everywhere, Smash isn't selling 2 mill in one week. Christmas will help it though if it's near.
Nevermind, even if it is bundled, it's not doing that. 3DS one can, though.

Same for Zelda. But for Zelda there's an even lower chance of selling that much.
Or pushing systems.
idk, i could see smash outselling MK in its opening, but def not longterm.

Zelda maybe not, but TP def got a lot of people to buy the wii that wouldnt have bought it at launch
 

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I wonder how long we're going to go with PS4 > XB1 > Wii U NPD threads.

Is there even a chance that Wii U outsells XB1 this November, assuming Smash Bros is released that month? I feel like that might be the only month for the rest of the gen where the order will be shaken up, barring some sort of miracle.
 
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SmokyDave you motherfucker.

Had me laughing my ass off by page six, and then page eight happened and I think I peed a little. Just a squirt. Think I'll have a beer as well. To honor the good works your Vita brothers do.
 

Linearskillz

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I would love for Square to release Final Fantasy XIII: Tredecèm Lightning HD Crystallum Remixu HD
and see it bomb horribly and wonder where they went wrong
It's Square so they would conclude that nobody wants console games anymore and use it as evidence to support more terrible mobile games like FF: ATB. They will never understand how Bravely Default somehow outperformed their precious pink haired goddess.

My coffee is black. Needs some cream and sugar.
 

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I wonder how long we're going to go with PS4 > XB1 > Wii U NPD threads.

Is there even a chance that Wii U outsells XB1 this November, assuming Smash Bros is released that month? I feel like that might be the only month for the rest of the gen where the order will be shaken up, barring some sort of miracle.


Isn't that Halo: MCC month?