The GOP is too spineless. They'd kill their own mothers to keep their power. They aren't gonna risk upsetting Trump voters
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NSA withholding intel from Oval Office, DoD believes 'Kremlin has ears in SITROOM'
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SodiumBenzoate
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that's a really big conference room
Buba Big Guns
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oops
Osiris
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When people / articles refer to the "IC" or intelligence community, they are not just talking about that one nations infrastructure, but that of it's allies, ambassadors and the whole community of the intelligence world. If the US IC gets replaced / compromised by Trump, then the rest of the community ices out the US from involvement with sensitive intelligence.
Most intelligence isn't gathered, it's shared, that's the danger for the US at the moment, true isolation from the community.
Back-In-Black
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"Qualified."
The IC can threaten them with a huge scandal though. Congressional GOP either takes this seriously, or they start implicating the entire party apparatus in the dealings through the RNC.
Felix Lighter
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This I believe is true but they need extremely solid evidence so they can keep the disenfranchisement of their base as low as possible. They won't take Trump down on anything less than irrefutable evidence. I don't know if they'd act on anything less than video because their base will assume any attempt to take Trump down is a conspiracy by the establishment.
The GOP will die on that hill. They won't entertain impeachment unless Trump is caught in the act multiple times beyond their ability to cover up.
The GOP has already proven by now that they're more loyal to Trump than America. They'd try to squash it in committee.
Hierophant
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CIA has "scenarios" waiting for Trump im sure
Exactly. Don't wanna piss-off the sea of red hats who bought into his personality cult.
everyday math
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DiipuSurotu
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BronzeWolf
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Just in
NSA to be recalled Mother Land Security Agency
NSA to be recalled Mother Land Security Agency
BrassDragon
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The bigger problem long-term is that the proverbial 'market' of intelligence exchange is in turmoil because of the Trump-Russia connection. Even the closest US allies cannot readily share what they have as long as there is a risk of White House leaks. I'm guessing some allied countries only share with big caveats, which leads to situations such as described in the OP, forcing intelligence officers to weigh their longstanding agreements and relationships against serving their Commander in Chief.
Although the US is one of the most proactive intelligence collectors in the world, it still needs allies to reach certain subjects and areas.
Frankly, this is a disaster in the making.
Although the US is one of the most proactive intelligence collectors in the world, it still needs allies to reach certain subjects and areas.
Frankly, this is a disaster in the making.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
WH just gets cut out of the loop, including the decision making process, life goes on.
i had to look at your avatar to try and detect sarcasm thats how fucked we are.
ChronotriggerJM
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Good on them, Trump is doing his damnedest to discredit them anyway, so piss on him.
Sunster
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Just parroting what posters were saying before the EC confirmed him.
puebla
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Well, I hope this is true. He needs to be treated like the nuisance he is.
Bedameister
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I can't wait to watch the documentaries on this shit show in a few years
BoosterDuck
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Doubt it's several levels, probably mostly Flynn.
Felix Lighter
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I would imagine they are building a case that they know can't be ignored.
BrassDragon
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The loop is supposed to start with the administration articulating what they want to know about the world around them, which sets the intelligence community on the path to collect answers until they can feed actionable intelligence back to the 'first customer' who then responds with new questions.
Since the Trump administration doesn't seem to care about findings, briefings and facts on the ground, coupled with an outspoken disdain for the intelligence community, there may not even be a functional intelligence loop at the moment.
The wheels keep turning because large, well-funded programs, such as counter-terrorism or cybersecurity, can run on protocol and procedure without strategic oversight (mostly).
But the moment this clown cart of a government needs to respond to a crisis or, god forbid, initiates a shooting war on a new front, this is going to backfire spectacularly.
Trump will reach single digit approval ratings.
Dubbedinenglish
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Well since the WH contains the Commander in Chief, acting on intel becomes problematic.
iRAWRasaurus
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Of course. Emails are always the worst.
the_sun_king
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Don't blame them.
Hilariously I feel like it's just a matter of time before someone in the White House accidentally tweets out a DM or text message meant for Putin.
Not thew same thing. This is probably a deliberate leak to state the severe problem to the public. Actual details of security are what is not making it out of intel.
theignoramus
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This story should be a blockbuster if true. But Im wary of it being written in the form of an op-ed with the author constantly referring to himself. I looked at some of his other headlines from the last 16 months and this guy has a....flair for dramatic pronouncements.
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