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Nvidia Geforce GTX 1070 Review Thread

fans shouldn't be spinning at all under 60C. well, i assume that's true for all 1070 models. what is yours? my MSI 1070 gaming x usually idles at 30-35C with no fans spinning. here is a sample of mine

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Like shouldn't shouldn't, or just it's not default behavior?
I set the fan curve to "aggressive" as I thought the goal was to have the card idle as close to 30c as possible, like my CPU sits at.
 
Wait, what?

EVGAs "PrecisionX" utility give me my 1070s current idle temp as 35c, but GPU-Z gives it as 29-31c.

Which do I trust? Why are they different?
Have I been pointlessly running the fans on this card because the included application has been giving me incorrect readings?

Also, how do I tell which BIOS I'm currently using so I know which one of these updates to flash?
I know I have the EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 FTW ACX 3.0, but am I "Primary" or "Secondary?"
I'm assuming "Primary," since I've never changed it myself?

EDIT: Nevermind, GPU-Z was reading the integrated graphics chip, for some reason.
 
Haven't done a lot of testing, just a few runs each through Heaven and Firestrike but I've been able to increase my memory speed to 8900MHz without issue so far, 9000MHz was a no go but considering it would checkerboard and crash at 8600MHz with the old BIOS under the same conditions, I'll take the win. Need to play some actual games and see what happens.

Wait, what?

EVGAs "PrecisionX" utility give me my 1070s current idle temp as 35c, but GPU-Z gives it as 29-31c.

Which do I trust? Why are they different?
Have I been pointlessly running the fans on this card because the included application has been giving me incorrect readings?

Also, how do I tell which BIOS I'm currently using so I know which one of these updates to flash?
I know I have the EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 FTW ACX 3.0, but am I "Primary" or "Secondary?"
I'm assuming "Primary," since I've never changed it myself?

EDIT: Nevermind, GPU-Z was reading the integrated graphics chip, for some reason.

Yeah if you didn't move the switch on the card you should still be on the primary BIOS, if all you're doing is running Precision to have the fan run you might as well shut down and move the switch to the secondary so the fans will run below 60.
 
Does your Founders Edition 1070 have Micron GDDR5?



surely the micron issue affects 1080's aswell considering they are micron too

1080s aren't using Micron GDDR5, they're using GDDR5X which only Micron produces so it doesn't share the BIOS/voltage issue that 1070s have with Micron GDDR5.
 
Bios update available for EVGA 1070 GPUs.
http://forums.evga.com/m/tm.aspx?m=2565056&p=1

Am I supposed to get some kind of feedback or something?
I start the BIOS update program, hit 'y' to confirm and then it just sits there.

I'm afraid to close the command window but it's just been blinking for like 20 minutes now and nothing's happened.

EDIT: I wasn't running it as an administrator. I don't know where my head is today.
 
I bought a 1070 from EVGA, but it was a Founders Edition model; does this update still apply since it's been said that all FEs are identical regardless of distributor?

P/N: 08G-P4-6170-KR seems to be listed.

If it's a recent purchase then.
Q. I just bought my card, will it have this updated firmware?
A. Chances are yes, as new firmware is release, new products shipping from EVGA will also have this firmware version applied.
Q. How can I tell what version I firmware I currently have?
A. There are multiple ways to do this, one way is to right click on desktop and go to NVIDIA control panel. Click on Help, then System Information. Scroll to the bottom of the Details window and it will show your "Video BIOS version".
 
damnit, just reading about this micron stuff after buying an msi 1070 gaming x

i'm building my rig this weekend, i'll be super pissed if i end up with the non-samsung ram in it

any way to find out what ram it has short of installing it and using that application mentioned earlier?
 
It's not doable to apply them yet but it's being worked on.

Hmm hopefully they'll figure it out :)

damnit, just reading about this micron stuff after buying an msi 1070 gaming x

i'm building my rig this weekend, i'll be super pissed if i end up with the non-samsung ram in it

any way to find out what ram it has short of installing it and using that application mentioned earlier?

Not really. But I bought a MSI 1070 X just a couple of days ago (new batch from amazon.de, the card was sold out for a couple of weeks) and it came with Samsung memory.
And that's great because most people were saying that new batches would 100% have micron memory.
 
ever since the last driver update, i've been getting weird screen flicker where it's like a .2 second flash of an artifacted screen once in a while. i read that this was an issue earlier on and that a hotfix fixed it, otherwise you have to go down to 120hz?

is there any actual solution other than not using 144hz?
 
Fuckin' NVIDIA, new driver screws with W10's Start Menu, can't move shortcuts/tiles without it messing it, hotfix is being worked on but how does that get through QA? Assuming NVIDIA does QA for their drivers.


On another note and why I was making this post...

EVGA is going to start offering thermal pads for free to reduce VRM temps for whoever is interested due to the heat it generats while so close the VRAM and raise its temps to the very edge of the spec if not above it, they'll send out for free for 1070s and 1080s with ACX coolers and backplates. Of course this is with Furmark so chances of seeing these temps outside of it are probably slim but it's kind of annoying that for such expensive cards that they've added custom cooling on EVGA didn't do this in the first place. Now if anyone wants to do it they'll have to take apart their card, remove and reapply thermal paste to the GPU and hope they don't accidentally screw something up. Later iterations of the cards will have them added.

“The test used in the referenced review from Toms Hardware (Germany) is running under Furmark, an extreme usage case, as most overclockers know. We believe this is a good approach to have some idea about the graphics card limit, and the thermal performance under the worst case scenario. EVGA has performed a similar qualification test during the design process, at a higher ambient temperature (30C in chamber) with a thermal coupler probe directly contacting the key components and after the Toms Hardware (Germany) review, we have retested this again. The results in both tests show the temperature of PWM and memory is within the spec tolerance under the same stress test, and is working as originally designed with no issues.

With this being said, EVGA understands that lower temperatures are preferred by reviewers and customers.

During our recent testing, we have applied additional thermal pads between the backplate and the PCB and between the baseplate and the heatsink fins, with the results shown below. We will offer these optional thermal pads free of charge to EVGA owners who want to have a lower temperature. These thermal pads will be ready soon; and customers can request them on Monday, October 24th, 2016. Also, we will work with Toms Hardware to do a retest.”

Thanks,
EVGA

EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW running Furmark with thermal pad mod (30C Ambient in Chamber) – October 21st, 2016
http://forums.evga.com/badHOT-PCB-Layout-on-GTX-1070-FTW-m2565921-p3.aspx#2567129
A before and after comparison from TH's image which they took the backplate off and EVGA's with the pads applied and the backplate on.


EDIT: I guess Guru3D is the site that found the same heat issue with the 1070s while Toms Hardware did on their 1080 FTW review, I only just stumbled upon this an hour or so ago, haven't read a lot on it.
 
Fuckin' NVIDIA, new driver screws with W10's Start Menu, can't move shortcuts/tiles without it messing it, hotfix is being worked on but how does that get through QA? Assuming NVIDIA does QA for their drivers.
Lol, I just literally did a clean install of Win10 with these drivers and noticed this behavior this morning. Good to know that it's a driver bug, and not a botched Windows install on my part.
 
So annoyed because games have been showing artifacts with my 1070 three days after my return period from Best Buy and they won't make an exception for me because i'm not an "elite" member. What shit. And EVGA firmware update doesn't help either.
 
So annoyed because games have been showing artifacts with my 1070 three days after my return period from Best Buy and they won't make an exception for me because i'm not an "elite" member. What shit. And EVGA firmware update doesn't help either.
Your EVGA card is acting up?=O
 
So annoyed because games have been showing artifacts with my 1070 three days after my return period from Best Buy and they won't make an exception for me because i'm not an "elite" member. What shit. And EVGA firmware update doesn't help either.

Overclocking or not? (I'm assuming not) What are your temps like (for my own curiosity)
 
damnit, just reading about this micron stuff after buying an msi 1070 gaming x

i'm building my rig this weekend, i'll be super pissed if i end up with the non-samsung ram in it

any way to find out what ram it has short of installing it and using that application mentioned earlier?

got samsung ram, runs like a dream
 
Fuckin' NVIDIA, new driver screws with W10's Start Menu, can't move shortcuts/tiles without it messing it, hotfix is being worked on but how does that get through QA? Assuming NVIDIA does QA for their drivers.

As always the case in such bugs, kill and rerun explorer to (temporarily) fix the issue.
 
So annoyed because games have been showing artifacts with my 1070 three days after my return period from Best Buy and they won't make an exception for me because i'm not an "elite" member. What shit. And EVGA firmware update doesn't help either.
Contact evga customer support. Did you register your card?
 
How often are you guys updating your drivers?

I ask because I used the latest MSI 1070 drivers from their website. Then, today the Nvidia Updater asked me to update my drivers so I did - thought getting the latest was always best.

I think this is affecting performance in Forza 3 a touch (i could be paranoid)- should I be using the latest drivers posted to my manufacturer's website or trust the built-in updater?
 
How often are you guys updating your drivers?

I ask because I used the latest MSI 1070 drivers from their website. Then, today the Nvidia Updater asked me to update my drivers so I did - thought getting the latest was always best.

I think this is affecting performance in Forza 3 a touch (i could be paranoid)- should I be using the latest drivers posted to my manufacturer's website or trust the built-in updater?

Just download them straight off Nvidia's website. Guru3D is a decent forum to check when they actually get released and there's always a dedicated thread discussing performance and bugs.
 
How often are you guys updating your drivers?

I ask because I used the latest MSI 1070 drivers from their website. Then, today the Nvidia Updater asked me to update my drivers so I did - thought getting the latest was always best.

I think this is affecting performance in Forza 3 a touch (i could be paranoid)- should I be using the latest drivers posted to my manufacturer's website or trust the built-in updater?

Just get them straight from NVIDIA's website or through GeForce Experience (which auto downloads and lets you update in that app easily).
 
EVGA is going to start offering thermal pads for free to reduce VRM temps for whoever is interested due to the heat it generats while so close the VRAM and raise its temps to the very edge of the spec if not above it, they'll send out for free for 1070s and 1080s with ACX coolers and backplates. Of course this is with Furmark so chances of seeing these temps outside of it are probably slim but it's kind of annoying that for such expensive cards that they've added custom cooling on EVGA didn't do this in the first place. Now if anyone wants to do it they'll have to take apart their card, remove and reapply thermal paste to the GPU and hope they don't accidentally screw something up. Later iterations of the cards will have them added.

It's not brain surgery. If you're at risk of this issue it's very likely that you know how to use a screwdriver and apply TIM. I'm paranoid so I'll be doing it but it looks really straightforward (it'll also be a nice opportunity to have TIM properly applied as opposed to the mess that comes from the factory). Not saying I don't empathize with people who are annoyed this got through QA and have no desire to crack open their card but it doesn't seem to be an issue generally; otherwise we'd have people all over the place complaining that their VRMs exploded (it's a handful at most so far across the lines from what I've seen).
 
How often are you guys updating your drivers?

I ask because I used the latest MSI 1070 drivers from their website. Then, today the Nvidia Updater asked me to update my drivers so I did - thought getting the latest was always best.

I think this is affecting performance in Forza 3 a touch (i could be paranoid)- should I be using the latest drivers posted to my manufacturer's website or trust the built-in updater?

When I buy my next AAA game.
 
I have the 1070. Sometimes I wish I got the 1080, but I'm confused with how it performs with certain games. I can play bf 1 maxed out settings with a constant locked 60fps even when there's a ton of explosions. But when I play wow with max settings I get like 40fps
 
I have the 1070. Sometimes I wish I got the 1080, but I'm confused with how it performs with certain games. I can play bf 1 maxed out settings with a constant locked 60fps even when there's a ton of explosions. But when I play wow with max settings I get like 40fps

Same, on stock it's just tad bit under stable 60fps in Witcher 3 with Ultra (on 1440p) and that bugs the hell out of me, could try to dye my hands in overclocking but thinking I'll sell this come 2017 and get the GTX 1080Ti given the price isn't outrageous.
Though in my case it could be also my slowish DDR4 (2133Mhz) or non-OC i7-6700K, had to turn down foliage distance from ultra to high to get 60fps+ at all times.
 
I have the 1070. Sometimes I wish I got the 1080, but I'm confused with how it performs with certain games. I can play bf 1 maxed out settings with a constant locked 60fps even when there's a ton of explosions. But when I play wow with max settings I get like 40fps

WoW is ridiculous like this. Don't try to understand it. There are tweaks you can do in the settings. I forgot which but draw distance is one of them. There is one about lighting special effects that is doing some good. Anyway whatever you try, some places in the game will just crash your fps no matter the hardware you got. It just ancient engine.
 
WoW is ridiculous like this. Don't try to understand it. There are tweaks you can do in the settings. I forgot which but draw distance is one of them. There is one about lighting special effects that is doing some good. Anyway whatever you try, some places in the game will just crash your fps no matter the hardware you got. It just ancient engine.

Blizzard are generally terrible at optimising their games. You should see how bad Diablo 3 gets when a lot is happening on screen too. In their case it's really down to the game rather than the card.
 
It's not brain surgery. If you're at risk of this issue it's very likely that you know how to use a screwdriver and apply TIM. I'm paranoid so I'll be doing it but it looks really straightforward (it'll also be a nice opportunity to have TIM properly applied as opposed to the mess that comes from the factory). Not saying I don't empathize with people who are annoyed this got through QA and have no desire to crack open their card but it doesn't seem to be an issue generally; otherwise we'd have people all over the place complaining that their VRMs exploded (it's a handful at most so far across the lines from what I've seen).

It's not but it's an annoyance for something that should've been done in the first place.
 
There's a convenient Restart option for Explorer in Win10:

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It's like Microsoft knew that it may be needed or something.

Edit: 375.63 hotfix for the issue: http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/109444/en-us

Actually in Task Manager, if you choose Windows Explorer the "End task" button switches to Restart by default.

Blizzard are generally terrible at optimising their games. You should see how bad Diablo 3 gets when a lot is happening on screen too. In their case it's really down to the game rather than the card.

Overwatch is really well optimized though, and runs 60fps on consoles too. I'd say masses of players/mobs is just hard to optimize in general, I've heard that there is solutions to Diablo 3 FPS drops too but never played it myself so can't say if its just bad optimization or not, it was fine on PS4.
 
Overclocking or not? (I'm assuming not) What are your temps like (for my own curiosity)

No overclocking since I still don't understand the new precision X. But luckily best buy let me exchange it for another card after I explained it to a manager that I didn't realize I wasn't an elite member. Hope we can go for round 2.
 
Question for anyone using an EVGA 1070:

I'm having terrible coil whine while playing a lot of games. It's definitely one of those issues that can happen with these cards and you can RMA for it. However, I've already applied for a step-up to a 1080 before this became apparent be the timetable is tba for it.

What would you do in this situarion? Hang onto the card until the step up? RMA? Reach out to EVGA?
 
Question for anyone using an EVGA 1070:

I'm having terrible coil whine while playing a lot of games. It's definitely one of those issues that can happen with these cards and you can RMA for it. However, I've already applied for a step-up to a 1080 before this became apparent be the timetable is tba for it.

What would you do in this situarion? Hang onto the card until the step up? RMA? Reach out to EVGA?

I'd probably just wait for the step-up. If the new card you receive from that has coil whine issues, that's when I'd look to RMA.
 
X-post from the Need a PC thread:

Look at what I just picked up:

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The best part is that it still came with a free Gears of War 4 code (I already have the game on PC so if someone wants to make an offer PM me).

I also got a decent overclock too (and I got lucky as hell and ended up with Samsung memory):

gpu-zgtx1070o5yia.gif
 
thats a great find!

amazon screwed me out of my gow4 code when i bought my 1070 - how much are you selling yours for?
 
Question for anyone using an EVGA 1070:

I'm having terrible coil whine while playing a lot of games. It's definitely one of those issues that can happen with these cards and you can RMA for it. However, I've already applied for a step-up to a 1080 before this became apparent be the timetable is tba for it.

What would you do in this situarion? Hang onto the card until the step up? RMA? Reach out to EVGA?

I've got the SC but my box is across the front room and behind a TV so I would never notice any whine I'd imagine. The only thing I hear is my shitty stock Intel fan on the CPU.
 
It's not brain surgery. If you're at risk of this issue it's very likely that you know how to use a screwdriver and apply TIM. I'm paranoid so I'll be doing it but it looks really straightforward (it'll also be a nice opportunity to have TIM properly applied as opposed to the mess that comes from the factory). Not saying I don't empathize with people who are annoyed this got through QA and have no desire to crack open their card but it doesn't seem to be an issue generally; otherwise we'd have people all over the place complaining that their VRMs exploded (it's a handful at most so far across the lines from what I've seen).
Do you know if there will be a guide available for installation. If it involves voiding the warranty then I think I'll just send it in.
 
It's not but it's an annoyance for something that should've been done in the first place.

Sure, but it happened; that's life - mistakes are made by all. At least they're providing a fix if you want it instead of the typical manufacturer response of doing nothing and ignoring consumers.


Do you know if there will be a guide available for installation. If it involves voiding the warranty then I think I'll just send it in.

There will be a guide - not sure whether it will be paper included (which makes the most sense) and/or online. I expect that there will be a YouTube guide as well from EVGA or a user.

All that you can do right now is apply for the pads here:

http://www.evga.com/thermalmod/

Details to be supplied later (aka the pads aren't shipping yet).

EVGA does not void your warranty even if you use aftermarket coolers, so no, this shouldn't void the warranty.
 
Sure, but it happened; that's life - mistakes are made by all. At least they're providing a fix if you want it instead of the typical manufacturer response of doing nothing and ignoring consumers.




There will be a guide - not sure whether it will be paper included (which makes the most sense) and/or online. I expect that there will be a YouTube guide as well from EVGA or a user.

All that you can do right now is apply for the pads here:

http://www.evga.com/thermalmod/

Details to be supplied later (aka the pads aren't shipping yet).

EVGA does not void your warranty even if you use aftermarket coolers, so no, this shouldn't void the warranty.
Thanks for that. Just Submitted a request.
 
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