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Nvidia Geforce GTX 1070 Review Thread

I'm expecting an EVGA 1070 FTW today and have only recently heard of the Micron issue.

So my understand is that:

1. The issue only restricts memory overclocks, not core overclocks, and that memory clock speeds are more responsible for performance with these cards compared to most.

2. The issue can be solved by increasing the voltage first in Afterburner.

3. It's something that can be fixed through software updates in the future.

Am I correct here?
 
I got my evga gtx 1070 sc yesterday and OMFG Doom looks and plays great omg!

On ultra, I get 140+ fps in closed areas, and it looks sick! (on asus 144hz led)

Though, playing the witcher 3, with all settings on max, there are several fps drops, and it's hard to keep 60 fps while in 1080p, and I'm using the newest nvidia drivers...

I have 8gb ddr and an I5 4690k, maybe it can be the cpu/ram?

On Witcher 3 I get like 78-84fps all Ultra, Hairworks off. That's outside in jungle areas and stuff. I reckon indoors and closed town areas will be higher.

I have a 6700/16gb 2600MHz ram. This setup ensures my minimum fps doesn't go too low or cause stuttering, but your avg fps should be closer/ slightly lower than mine.
 
Oh, since I got a sc for 440$, there's a new promotion where the normal evga 1070 costs 100$ less, I'm thinking about returning my sc and picking up the normal model... should I do it? =p
 
Hmmm... just checked my EVGA 1070 FTW which I got back in July and according to GPU-Z it's got Samsung memory. Which is nice and all I suppose but I haven't really felt the need to overclock it yet.
 
Ok, what the hell? I exchanged this evga 1070 for another one thinking maybe the one i had is faulty. but I am getting the same results with this card.

So, I set all settings to low on Overwatch. And no matter what it will never go above 61 and constantly fluctuates between 59-60 and on rare occassion will drop to literally in the 40s.

What is causing this?

My 3dmark for Firestrike performance is 9987

with graphics score at 18051
physics score at 4496
and Combined score at 3966

my Cpu is i5 2500k
running windows 7
and I have 16gb ram....

what could be causing the issue? or should I be expecting these results? I feel like my results should be way better
 
Ok, what the hell? I exchanged this evga 1070 for another one thinking maybe the one i had is faulty. but I am getting the same results with this card.

So, I set all settings to low on Overwatch. And no matter what it will never go above 61 and constantly fluctuates between 59-60 and on rare occassion will drop to literally in the 40s.

What is causing this?

My 3dmark for Firestrike performance is 9987

with graphics score at 18051
physics score at 4496
and Combined score at 3966

my Cpu is i5 2500k
running windows 7
and I have 16gb ram....

what could be causing the issue? or should I be expecting these results? I feel like my results should be way better

Is V-Sync on in Overwatch?
 
I was just playing Far Cry 3 and I started getting these artifacts:

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I was wondering if those are GPU related or there could be another cause. I'm using a MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X with Samsung memory, no overclock. I didn't have those in any other game and now I switched to Witcher 3 to see if there are any problems now... Checked the temperatures at the time of the glitch and it was around 65C. I haven't seen any problem like this before.

Here's a GPU-Z screenshot just in case. The only weird thing I noticed is that it shows "Undefined" in the Subvendor field.

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Any thoughts?
 
I was just playing Far Cry 3 and I started getting these artifacts:

8a71642d0f.jpg


I was wondering if those are GPU related or there could be another cause. I'm using a MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X with Samsung memory, no overclock. I didn't have those in any other game and now I switched to Witcher 3 to see if there are any problems now... Checked the temperatures at the time of the glitch and it was around 65C. I haven't seen any problem like this before.

Here's a GPU-Z screenshot just in case. The only weird thing I noticed is that it shows "Undefined" in the Subvendor field.

e62b7475c2.png


Any thoughts?

Run any stability test you prefer (Furmark, 3DMark's endurance test, Metro, anything) and if you'll crash or see these again then it's a h/w problem. Same is true if you'll see these in any other game beside FC3. They do look like a h/w fault though, I never had anything like this in FC3 on 980Ti.
 
Oh god. I'm soooo close to pulling the trigger on a SeaHawk 1070..

I'm supposed to be saving up for major home improvements. Ugh.
 
Oh god. I'm soooo close to pulling the trigger on a SeaHawk 1070..

I'm supposed to be saving up for major home improvements. Ugh.

Put a bucket under the roof where it leaks and add a stack of newspapers in the crawl space under the corner that is sinking in.
 
I changed from a EVGA GTX 770 2Gb (stock) to a EVGA GTX 1070 FTW (no OC) and i gotta say, I'm a bit disappointed.


I was honestly expecting it to sustain constant and rock solid 60fps on 2560x1080 (21:9 ultrawide)

Games like Ryse, Witcher 3 and GTA V got to frame rates as "low" as 45. (No supersampling or MSAA)


I mean, it sustain at constant 60fps most of the time, but I was honestly expecting it to be overkill in that resolution... We're entering the 4K era for fucks sake. =/


When I changed from a Radeon HD 4770 to the 770 it was almost unbelievable, I was literally shocked by the much better performance... from the 770 to the 1070 it was like: "meh, It runs with not that much better graphics and still struggle to maintain over the 60s".



I'm not sure if you compare benchmarks here, but here's how it's running Heaven in 1080p:
qaXynBl.png

not that impressive tbh
 
I changed from a EVGA GTX 770 2Gb (stock) to a EVGA GTX 1070 FTW (no OC) and i gotta say, I'm a bit disappointed.


I was honestly expecting it to sustain constant and rock solid 60fps on 2560x1080 (21:9 ultrawide)

Games like Ryse, Witcher 3 and GTA V got to frame rates as "low" as 45. (No supersampling or MSAA)


I mean, it sustain at constant 60fps most of the time, but I was honestly expecting it to be overkill in that resolution... We're entering the 4K era for fucks sake. =/


When I changed from a Radeon HD 4770 to the 770 it was almost unbelievable, I was literally shocked by the much better performance... from the 770 to the 1070 it was like: "meh, It runs with not that much better graphics and still struggle to maintain over the 60s".



I'm not sure if you compare benchmarks here, but here's how it's running Heaven in 1080p:
qaXynBl.png

not that impressive tbh

The 1070 is not a 1080.... that being said, you are leaving some performance on the table with your relatively low-clocked CPU.
 
Ok, what the hell? I exchanged this evga 1070 for another one thinking maybe the one i had is faulty. but I am getting the same results with this card.

So, I set all settings to low on Overwatch. And no matter what it will never go above 61 and constantly fluctuates between 59-60 and on rare occassion will drop to literally in the 40s.

What is causing this?

My 3dmark for Firestrike performance is 9987

with graphics score at 18051
physics score at 4496
and Combined score at 3966

my Cpu is i5 2500k
running windows 7
and I have 16gb ram....

what could be causing the issue? or should I be expecting these results? I feel like my results should be way better

Seems like a VSync issue or something is keeping the card from boosting. I would uninstall any 3rd party overclocking software like MSI afterburner. I would also use display driver uninstaller(ddu) to get rid of all old driver files. It's best to remove drivers conventionally, boot to safe mode and then run ddu. After that restart and install the new drivers.


I changed from a EVGA GTX 770 2Gb (stock) to a EVGA GTX 1070 FTW (no OC) and i gotta say, I'm a bit disappointed.


I was honestly expecting it to sustain constant and rock solid 60fps on 2560x1080 (21:9 ultrawide)

Games like Ryse, Witcher 3 and GTA V got to frame rates as "low" as 45. (No supersampling or MSAA)


I mean, it sustain at constant 60fps most of the time, but I was honestly expecting it to be overkill in that resolution... We're entering the 4K era for fucks sake. =/


When I changed from a Radeon HD 4770 to the 770 it was almost unbelievable, I was literally shocked by the much better performance... from the 770 to the 1070 it was like: "meh, It runs with not that much better graphics and still struggle to maintain over the 60s".



I'm not sure if you compare benchmarks here, but here's how it's running Heaven in 1080p:
qaXynBl.png

not that impressive tbh

Complete opposite from my impression. I went from a 7970 to a 1070. I couldn't get 60fps in Witcher 3 or Tomb Raider with any settings. Constant dips to the 30s sometimes sustained. With the 1070 I'm downsampling from 1440 at max settings and still maintaining 60fps.

Both cards running on a 6600k@4.3GHz.
 
I changed from a EVGA GTX 770 2Gb (stock) to a EVGA GTX 1070 FTW (no OC) and i gotta say, I'm a bit disappointed.


I was honestly expecting it to sustain constant and rock solid 60fps on 2560x1080 (21:9 ultrawide)

Games like Ryse, Witcher 3 and GTA V got to frame rates as "low" as 45. (No supersampling or MSAA)


I mean, it sustain at constant 60fps most of the time, but I was honestly expecting it to be overkill in that resolution... We're entering the 4K era for fucks sake. =/


When I changed from a Radeon HD 4770 to the 770 it was almost unbelievable, I was literally shocked by the much better performance... from the 770 to the 1070 it was like: "meh, It runs with not that much better graphics and still struggle to maintain over the 60s".



I'm not sure if you compare benchmarks here, but here's how it's running Heaven in 1080p:
qaXynBl.png

not that impressive tbh
Ran the same benchmark with my manually overclocked card. Max. Boostclock is 2101 MHz & +175 Offset on the Memory (Micron Issue). Result:

 
The Micron memory low voltage problem seems to be real. I set my card to Maximum Power in the Nvidia contol panel, launched Witcher 3, then set my overclock on Afterburner (+110 Core and +650 Memory) returned to the game and been playing for around 3 hours, not a crash, blue screen or glitch at all, before this I couldn't get my 1070 to get past +450 Memory without crashing the game.

Apparently Nvidia are working on a bios fix for the problem cards, so it might be fixed properly in the next update or two, hopefully......

Nvidia customer care said on their forum today:

We have implemented a change to our video BIOS which should improve the overclocking experience for certain users. The updated video BIOS should be available through our add-in board partners at a later date.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/963768/geforce-drivers/gtx-1070-memory-vrm-driver-or-bios-bug-in-micron-memory-1070-cards-/16/
 
I changed from a EVGA GTX 770 2Gb (stock) to a EVGA GTX 1070 FTW (no OC) and i gotta say, I'm a bit disappointed.


I was honestly expecting it to sustain constant and rock solid 60fps on 2560x1080 (21:9 ultrawide)

Games like Ryse, Witcher 3 and GTA V got to frame rates as "low" as 45. (No supersampling or MSAA)

I mean, it sustain at constant 60fps most of the time, but I was honestly expecting it to be overkill in that resolution... We're entering the 4K era for fucks sake. =/

When I changed from a Radeon HD 4770 to the 770 it was almost unbelievable, I was literally shocked by the much better performance... from the 770 to the 1070 it was like: "meh, It runs with not that much better graphics and still struggle to maintain over the 60s".

I'm not sure if you compare benchmarks here, but here's how it's running Heaven in 1080p:
not that impressive tbh

I'm not certain I know what's going on for you, but for most games, the 1070 is overkill for 1080p games. Granted I want to run things in 4k, but I've settled for 1440p, because 1080p is frankly not stressing my 1070 in most situations, at least not enough to bring it below 60fps 90% of the time.

You've got a pretty low clock on your CPU, and that really would effect a game like The Witcher 3. That's the only thing I can think that might be amiss just looking at this.
 
CPU clock isn't accurately shown on Heaven's benchmark results. EDIT: Oh, non-K.
I changed from a EVGA GTX 770 2Gb (stock) to a EVGA GTX 1070 FTW (no OC) and i gotta say, I'm a bit disappointed.


I was honestly expecting it to sustain constant and rock solid 60fps on 2560x1080 (21:9 ultrawide)

Games like Ryse, Witcher 3 and GTA V got to frame rates as "low" as 45. (No supersampling or MSAA)


I mean, it sustain at constant 60fps most of the time, but I was honestly expecting it to be overkill in that resolution... We're entering the 4K era for fucks sake. =/


When I changed from a Radeon HD 4770 to the 770 it was almost unbelievable, I was literally shocked by the much better performance... from the 770 to the 1070 it was like: "meh, It runs with not that much better graphics and still struggle to maintain over the 60s".



I'm not sure if you compare benchmarks here, but here's how it's running Heaven in 1080p:
qaXynBl.png

not that impressive tbh

That's about 50% higher than a 970 (or well mine) where it should be and a 970 was somewhere between 30-50% faster than a 770. Depending on your settings you shouldn't have much if any issue hitting a relatively stable 60FPS, especially with MSAA off on GTA V.

This is from over a year ago with my 970 OC'd to either 1500MHz or 1525 and VRAM to 2000 if I remember correctly.
 
The 1070 is not a 1080.... that being said, you are leaving some performance on the table with your relatively low-clocked CPU.

He has a non-K chip. But in Heaven it wouldn't make a difference: I have the K version at 4.5GHz and get pretty much the same score (~2400ish) with my G1 card (which has a higher factory overclock anyway).

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What's a good core offset? I went for gold and set my card to +120, and it seemed fine in Heaven and Fallout 4, but I kept getting nvlddmkm crashes (fortunately no BSODs) in The Witcher 3. Turned off the overclock and I played for a whole day without issues. Not that I need a manual overclock in TW3 - it runs almost* flawlessly at ultra settings regardless.

*I have observed that some scenes in during sunrise/sunset cause GPU usage to go from 70% to 100% and I might start getting dips into the mid 50s, but it never goes lower than that.

I have Samsung memory on my card, but at the moment I've only tried with a +200 memory overclock.

Is turning full power on in the NV CP recommended in all conditions? I've never touched that setting even with previous cards. And do I need to overvolt the card slightly? I set power to 111%.
 
The Micron memory low voltage problem seems to be real. I set my card to Maximum Power in the Nvidia contol panel, launched Witcher 3, then set my overclock on Afterburner (+110 Core and +650 Memory) returned to the game and been playing for around 3 hours, not a crash, blue screen or glitch at all, before this I couldn't get my 1070 to get past +450 Memory without crashing the game.

Apparently Nvidia are working on a bios fix for the problem cards, so it might be fixed properly in the next update or two, hopefully......

Nvidia customer care said on their forum today:



https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/963768/geforce-drivers/gtx-1070-memory-vrm-driver-or-bios-bug-in-micron-memory-1070-cards-/16/

That's good, if they're actually going to do something to fix it my interest slightly rises again.
 
Ran the same benchmark with my manually overclocked card. Max. Boostclock is 2101 MHz & +175 Offset on the Memory (Micron Issue). Result:

How's the temp holding up with the OC?

I'm a bit afraid of doing it, tbh... it gets really hot around here during the summer, not sure if the stock fans/coolers will be enough to keep the temps from going way too high...
 
That's good, if they're actually going to do something to fix it my interest slightly rises again.

Yeah, I was initially planning on doing SLI but since the vast majority of FTW cards were now Micron memory there was no way I was going to do that (already have a Samsung memory FTW card). This should make the overclocking much more comparable with both memory types averaging around 400-550 range.

However, I already applied for a EVGA step up to a regular ACX 3.0 1080 GTX since I wasn't sure the Micron memory problem was ever going to be addressed since it has been a few months since the release of the 1070...
 
How's the temp holding up with the OC?

I'm a bit afraid of doing it, tbh... it gets really hot around here during the summer, not sure if the stock fans/coolers will be enough to keep the temps from going way too high...
Ran some quick tests for you. I have the Palit Super Jetstream btw.
Card ran overclocked at 73° C in Witcher 3 (Maxed out with Gameworks at 4x AA) with the cooler at 48% (no custom fan curve activated). Boost-Clock settled in at 2050 MHz. Non-overclocked is 70° C with the cooler at 44%. Boost-Clock settled in at 1962 MHz.
My case is the Fractal Define R4.
 
Ran some quick tests for you. I have the Palit Super Jetstream btw.
Card ran overclocked at 73° C in Witcher 3 (Maxed out with Gameworks at 4x AA) with the cooler at 48% (no custom fan curve activated). Boost-Clock settled in at 2050 MHz. Non-overclocked is 70° C with the cooler at 44%. Boost-Clock settled in at 1962 MHz.

Thanks bud, looks like it's fairly safe. I think I'll give it a try eventually. :)
 
I changed from a EVGA GTX 770 2Gb (stock) to a EVGA GTX 1070 FTW (no OC) and i gotta say, I'm a bit disappointed.


I was honestly expecting it to sustain constant and rock solid 60fps on 2560x1080 (21:9 ultrawide)

Games like Ryse, Witcher 3 and GTA V got to frame rates as "low" as 45. (No supersampling or MSAA)


I mean, it sustain at constant 60fps most of the time, but I was honestly expecting it to be overkill in that resolution... We're entering the 4K era for fucks sake. =/


When I changed from a Radeon HD 4770 to the 770 it was almost unbelievable, I was literally shocked by the much better performance... from the 770 to the 1070 it was like: "meh, It runs with not that much better graphics and still struggle to maintain over the 60s".



I'm not sure if you compare benchmarks here, but here's how it's running Heaven in 1080p:
qaXynBl.png

not that impressive tbh
Overclock that cpu?
 
My GPU came in, micron memory and an EVGA card (SC).

Managed to really get +130 with setting the fan to 60 percent via afterburner, I want to see if I can get to 200.

My card sounded like a jet when I manually kicked the fans on, lol. And I have about half an inch of space left between my card and case now.
 
People seem to think the 1070 is a lot faster than it actually is. I mean, compared to a 970 it's actually no that much faster. It's certainly not a set and forget 1440p/60fps like a lot of people assume, heck even 1080p/60fps isn't a given at max settings on a few games.

It's not like the old days - the ATI 9700 Pro and NV8800GT...now those were massive upgrades.
 
People seem to think the 1070 is a lot faster than it actually is. I mean, compared to a 970 it's actually no that much faster. It's certainly not a set and forget 1440p/60fps like a lot of people assume, heck even 1080p/60fps isn't a given at max settings on a few games.

It's not like the old days - the ATI 9700 Pro and NV8800GT...now those were massive upgrades.

Wait really? What games don't give you 60fps at 1080p?

Although I assume you're talking about unoptimized messes like Deus Ex/Horizon 3/Quantum Break etc. with frame killing features.

Then I understand.
 
People seem to think the 1070 is a lot faster than it actually is. I mean, compared to a 970 it's actually no that much faster. It's certainly not a set and forget 1440p/60fps like a lot of people assume, heck even 1080p/60fps isn't a given at max settings on a few games.

It's not like the old days - the ATI 9700 Pro and NV8800GT...now those were massive upgrades.

You forget that the 970 is majorly gimped with 3.5 GB of RAM and when the last 0.5 gb is used, you get significant stuttering. In addition, the 1070 is slightly faster than a 980Ti, you are acting like the 970 is comparable in speeds to that? The only time you aren't doing 1440p 60 fps is when you enable highly taxing features like MSAA, global illumination, and soft shadows.
 
Can't do. Only the K series can be overclocked.

Did you look into the turbo boost bios settings? I have a 3770 I was handed down and while it can't do most overclocking my motherboard does allow altering the turboboost multipler to go from 3.4 ghz base/3.9 turbo to 4.1 base/4.3 turbo.
 
Doing some more testing with overclocking due to the Micron memory / voltage issue. It definitely seems like a sudden change in voltage in certain situations crashes the memory.

I launched Witcher 3, alt tab to Windows and using Afterburner I pushed my overclock to +170 Core and +650 Memory, then went back to the game, played for a few hours perfectly fine and then when I quit the game, I got artifacts on Windows and the graphics driver crashed.

Did it a few times with same result, so I tried something a different. Before quitting the game I alt tab to Windows and return my 1070 to stock settings and then quit the game and...... no crash.

So it seems like a sudden change in voltage with the overclock applied causes the memory issue but if the voltage is high before the overclock is set, the memory works fine, aslong as you return to default settings before quitting the game, as the sudden drop in voltage crashes it too.
 
Hello fellow gaffers,

It has been posted couple of times in this thread. There was sort of a controversy about memory lottery. Either you were very lucky and got the first few batches with Samsung memory or, like me, bought your 1070 a tad later and ended up getting Micron memory.

Now the problem with Micron were all pointing out that it was a very poor overclocker. In the last few week, some tech savvy users discovered that the Micron memory was reacting poorly to voltage fluctuation. Even at spec clock. (I never had issue at spec). The general consensus is that you couldn't push the memory much farther then spec without instability.

Well low and behold, Nvidia has recognised the issue and new Bios are in the work.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/963768/geforce-drivers/gtx-1070-memory-vrm-driver-or-bios-bug-in-micron-memory-1070-cards-/post/4986835/#4986835

Now keep in mind that it could take a while before your chosen brand release their own version of that Bios. If at all. You can try and make noise on the different Nvidia partners forums if they exist. I have a gigabyte and I'm not crossing my fingers. Gigabyte is known to be very lazy with their drivers support and or bios release.

But still, there is hope. And since every partners are now selling their card with Micron memory, I hope everyone get a nice new Bios.
 
Hello fellow gaffers,

It has been posted couple of times in this thread. There was sort of a controversy about memory lottery. Either you were very lucky and got the first few batches with Samsung memory or, like me, bought your 1070 a tad later and ended up getting Micron memory.

Now the problem with Micron were all pointing out that it was a very poor overclocker. In the last few week, some tech savvy users discovered that the Micron memory was reacting poorly to voltage fluctuation. Even at spec clock. (I never had issue at spec). The general consensus is that you couldn't push the memory much farther then spec without instability.

Well low and behold, Nvidia has recognised the issue and new Bios are in the work.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/963768/geforce-drivers/gtx-1070-memory-vrm-driver-or-bios-bug-in-micron-memory-1070-cards-/post/4986835/#4986835

Now keep in mind that it could take a while before your chosen brand release their own version of that Bios. If at all. You can try and make noise on the different Nvidia partners forums if they exist. I have a gigabyte and I'm not crossing my fingers. Gigabyte is known to be very lazy with their drivers support and or bios release.

But still, there is hope. And since every partners are now selling their card with Micron memory, I hope everyone get a nice new Bios.

That's surprisingly good news, surprisingly fast. I too have a Gigabyte 1070, but i wasn't really planning on OC, at least not yet. Good news for anyone genuinely disappointed by the Micron debacle though.
 
So I'm in the market for a new graphics card and I have decided on the 1070.

I saw that they have a mini-ITX version available. It is also the cheapest version of the card. I looked at the specs and they don't appear to be any less than the standard version of the card.

I know you can't really overclock them but that's not really a concern of mine and it supposedly ships overclocked.

Right now I have a gigantic PC case and I'm going to transition to a mini-ITX for my next build. A lot of mini-ITX cases can accommodate a full-sized GPU though. So I probably don't "need" the smaller size but it just seems neat to me.

Any reason to consider the full-sized card? Do the smaller cards run worse due to 1 fan?
 
So I'm in the market for a new graphics card and I have decided on the 1070.

I saw that they have a mini-ITX version available. It is also the cheapest version of the card. I looked at the specs and they don't appear to be any less than the standard version of the card.

I know you can't really overclock them but that's not really a concern of mine and it supposedly ships overclocked.

Right now I have a gigantic PC case and I'm going to transition to a mini-ITX for my next build. A lot of mini-ITX cases can accommodate a full-sized GPU though. So I probably don't "need" the smaller size but it just seems neat to me.

Any reason to consider the full-sized card? Do the smaller cards run worse due to 1 fan?

You can fit full size cards in many ITX cases. I'm also considering an ITX build but I already have a full size 1070 and luckily I have lots of choices

To answer your question, the difference would probably be power delivery and overclocking potential. You probably get better cooling from a larger card also
 
Feel like my I5 3750k is holding back this purchase... not getting the FPS i expected from Witcher 3 on 144hz, same with WoW. Dips to 30 fps on full settings in Surumar.
 
Feel like my I5 3750k is holding back this purchase... not getting the FPS i expected from Witcher 3 on 144hz, same with WoW. Dips to 30 fps on full settings in Surumar.

Erm... I don't like hearing this. I have the same chip and I'm upgrading from 2x670's.
 
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