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[LegendX48]

This card looks so damn good. I'd like to stick with AMD but I also need to upgrade my 7950 and this will be out soon and for a fair price. So tempted to try nvidia this time around lol

 

[dgrdsv]

I think he is kidding btw

Though, 1080s and 1070s got nothing on running SC (check out dat VRAM usage):

I'm sure they both will run SC just fine. Cached data isn't really VRAM usage and 8GB of VRAM isn't small by any measurement.

 

[Memorabilia]

This card looks so damn good. I'd like to stick with AMD but I also need to upgrade my 7950 and this will be out soon and for a fair price. So tempted to try nvidia this time around lol

Feel the same. Granted, the Founders Edition is a rip-off, so we should all wait for AIB cards to drop. And we don't yet know when the $379 cards will be widely available. But, even taking that into account, the 1070 is making me salivate. Lol It's not easy but I'm planning on waiting until we have all the info on Polaris 10/480X before making a decision. Always prefer to support AMD whenever possible but they need to get some info out ASAP or a lot of people are going to buy a 1070 without even considering AMD.

Bear in mind, it appears Polaris 10 is targeting the $250-$300 price segment, so we could argue that they're not directly competing so no lost sales. But if Polaris performance is "good enough" for a lot of 1080p/1440p applications and it drops at, say, $279 (a full $100 cheaper than the 1070) I'm guessing a sizable chunk of buyers would consider the options before making a decision. If the 480X can match Fury X at, say, $279 and offer better efficiency that'd be mighty impressive even if its not directly competing with the 1070. I'm not sure if that's overly optimistic, but I think this is what AMD needs to really grab back some market share.

 

[Dee Dah Dave]

Not_bad.jif

 

[LegendX48]

Feel the same. Granted, the Founders Edition is a rip-off, so we should all wait for AIB cards to drop. And we don't yet know when the $379 cards will be widely available. But, even taking that into account, the 1070 is making me salivate. Lol It's not easy but I'm planning on waiting until we have all the info on Polaris 10/480X before making a decision. Always prefer to support AMD whenever possible but they need to get some info out ASAP or a lot of people are going to buy a 1070 without even considering AMD.

Bear in mind, it appears Polaris 10 is targeting the $250-$300 price segment, so we could argue that they're not directly competing so no lost sales. But if Polaris performance is "good enough" for a lot of 1080p/1440p applications and it drops at, say, $279 (a full $100 cheaper than the 1070) I'm guessing a sizable chunk of buyers would consider the options before making a decision. If the 480X can match Fury X at, say, $279 and offer better efficiency that'd be mighty impressive even if its not directly competing with the 1070. I'm not sure if that's overly optimistic, but I think this is what AMD needs to really grab back some market share.

if they could get something very close to the 1070 for less that'd be pretty sweet. I just want a big upgrade from my 7950 in general.

 

[Copenap]

There is absolutely zero sense in a getting a new system with the 970 now instead of waiting 1.5 months for the 1070, right?

 

[Durante]

There is absolutely zero sense in a getting a new system with the 970 now instead of waiting 1.5 months for the 1070, right?

Not really, unless you need a new PC right now.

 

[somuchwater]

Huh. Wow. Hype realized.

Now I just really hope there's something like a 1050Ti for people like me who'd rather not spend more than $200 on a video card.

 

[NeoBob688]

I am trying to compare my current Geforce 770 to the Geforce 1070.

It seems that in 3D Mark the performance gain is x2.0, whereas in some games (Witcher 3, The Division, GTA 5) it is more like x2.5-3.0. Why the difference?

 

[opticalmace]

It's just that I've seen the 1440p benchmarks and I'm worried there'll be a significant enough drop to put me below 60 fps.

Well the 1080 is what, 20% faster than the 1070. If the 1080 gets 60 fps you're probably looking at almost 50 with the 1070. Turn down a few settings and you're at 60.

Your money though, but I would lean 1070 for sure at that resolution and refresh rate.

 

[Durante]

I am trying to compare my current Geforce 770 to the Geforce 1070.

It seems that in 3D Mark the performance gain is x2.0, whereas in some games (Witcher 3, The Division, GTA 5) it is more like x2.5-3.0. Why the difference?

You must be looking at the wrong numbers, the 3D mark graphics score differential should be much higher than 2x.

 

[Sword Of Doom]

So when should we expect this card to actually cost $379?

 

[OpticalPrime]

wow consistent +30fps 4K gaming for <400$. Happened much faster then I thought it would.

Awesome. I may actually jump in and finally upgrade soon.

 

[Durante]

So when should we expect this card to actually cost $379?

Judging by 1080, about 4 weeks from now. Of course, this is also a function of the market situation.

 

[NeoBob688]

You must be looking at the wrong numbers, the 3D mark graphics score differential should be much higher than 2x.

I am looking at this:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/nvidia_geforce_gtx_1070_review,27.html

 

[Haint]

$70 less price for stock clocked models, better cooling, better performance from factory OC models which will cost close to what FE does.

OC custom cooler models typically add $20-40, not 'close to FE'. Maybe if supply is constrained they will gauge, but I expect the most popular OC models will target $399. Even then sales numbers are going to be much lower than the 970 mid term, which sold most of it's volume at the frequent sub-$300 discounts. I don't see 1070 prices staying $400 for long, unless they simply can't produce many.

 

[Crimsonclaw111]

Can't wait to see all the different 1070s so I can see which one is best.

 

[Memorabilia]

Judging by 1080, about 4 weeks from now. Of course, this is also a function of the market situation.

That's going to feel like an eternity. On the upside, if that's the case, at the very least we should get a decent look at Polaris within the same time-frame. The leaked AMD NDA indicating June 29 might not be too much of a problem if nVidia can't fill the channel with volume 1070 before then. I'm leaning 1070, but I'd like to see AMD benefit from a healthy launch and claw back some market share. The 1070 may not heavily impact Polaris one way or the other due to differing price points, but there's been a lot of speculation about how AMD remaining silent on Polaris while the 1070 repeats the 970's success could be a lost opportunity.

 

[DMTripper]

Am I right in thinking that if I have a GTX 960 2g I can just switch for one of these bad boys and won't need to upgrade my power supply or anything?

In fact it should use less power??

I'm a n00b so I might be wrong :-/

 

[Knurek]

That was also what I thought, maybe not in quite as colorful words.

Those games that are often shown as poster children for AMD DX12 performance seem to look pretty terrible when you see the frametime consistency rather than just average FPS. And ultimately, the former metric is at least as important for actual gameplay as the latter.

I'd say it's way more important.

Imagine this situation:

Frametimes: 33.3 ms, 11.1 ms, 33.3 ms, 11.1 ms, 33.3 ms, 11.1 ms.
Average framerate? Smooth, solid 60 fps.
Perceived framerate? 20 fps? Certainly nothing near 30.

 

[Gormenghast]

I am trying to compare my current Geforce 770 to the Geforce 1070.

It seems that in 3D Mark the performance gain is x2.0, whereas in some games (Witcher 3, The Division, GTA 5) it is more like x2.5-3.0. Why the difference?

It's drivers. Nvidia won't put any specific work to optimize latest games for older videocards. Whereas 3Dmark already has that optimization since it's older code. You can see the same if you compare the performance of the 770 and 970 in the same benchmarks. Small difference in 3Dmark, BIG difference in this year games (actually started with Witcher 3).

You can expect the same starting in a few months/year between the 970/1070. The gap will slowly increase till it becomes substantial.

 

[nilbog21]

There is absolutely zero sense in a getting a new system with the 970 now instead of waiting 1.5 months for the 1070, right?

IMO the 970 is where its at right now

1. Video games are gimped by console hardware right now.
2. 970 can run every game you throw at it with ease
3. you can probably pick up a used one for $150 from the people who are upgrading. Bang for your buck wise, this is a no brainer...

if my 2500k (4.5) / 6970 rig can handle DOOM just fine - then 1070/1080 is just overkill right now IMO

 

[Crimsonclaw111]

IMO the 970 is where its at right now

1. Video games are gimped by console hardware right now.
2. 970 can run every game you throw at it with ease
3. you can probably pick up a used one for $150 from the people who are upgrading. Bang for your buck wise, this is a no brainer...

if my 2500k (4.5) / 6970 rig can handle DOOM just fine - then 1070/1080 is just overkill right now IMO

On the flip side, games like GTAV are extremely power hungry. Nothing is ever completely overkill.

Think of it more as reassurance that you'll be set for ages

 

[Gormenghast]

IMO the 970 is where its at right now

1. Video games are gimped by console hardware right now.
2. 970 can run every game you throw at it with ease
3. you can probably pick up a used one for $150 from the people who are upgrading

if my 2500k (4.5) / 6970 rig can handle DOOM just fine - then 1070/1080 is just overkill right now IMO

Yes, but most people who buy a videocard don't buy one to replace it in 6 months.

The 1070 is right now overkill, but wait a while and it becomes standard. PC requirements will start to climb, and in a year or so you'll see the 1070 in the "recommended" specs replacing the 970.

 

[adamantypants]

As a previous 780ti owner at the 970 launch and a 980ti owner right now, I'm getting a very familiar rush of emotions. I am officially salivating over the 1080ti now, at the very least.

 

[Nyteshade517]

looks like the 1070 will be more than enough for my needs (figured it would be but wanted to see the reviews/benchmarks to be safe)

will do like others and wait for the partner cards to see which is the better option

 

[Opus Angelorum]

IMO the 970 is where its at right now

1. Video games are gimped by console hardware right now.
2. 970 can run every game you throw at it with ease
3. you can probably pick up a used one for $150 from the people who are upgrading. Bang for your buck wise, this is a no brainer...

if my 2500k (4.5) / 6970 rig can handle DOOM just fine - then 1070/1080 is just overkill right now IMO

With the upgraded PS4 and Xbox One coming in the next 12-16 months, games will become more demanding.

 

[QuantumSquid]

I only have a 1920x1080 monitor, so I see no reason to upgrade from my 970 right now, as much as I desperately want one of those sweet looking EVGA ACX 3.0 cards...

 

[Kawngi]

I had my mind set on getting an ASUS Strix 1080 but now I'm not so sure. I just have a 1080p 144Hz monitor at the moment but it's important that I'm able to get above 60FPS on maxed settings.

 

[Hey_Blinkin]

Tempted to upgrade from my 7970. What's the last we've heard from AMD about Polaris? I can see a ton of people that have been waiting jumping on a 1070. I'd think they'd want to announce something soon?

 

[Crimsonclaw111]

Tempted to upgrade from my 7970. What's the last we've heard from AMD about Polaris? I can see a ton of people that have been waiting jumping on a 1070. I'd think they'd want to announce something soon?

Wait till Computex is what I've been seeing.

 

[Nyteshade517]

Tempted to upgrade from my 7970. What's the last we've heard from AMD about Polaris? I can see a ton of people that have been waiting jumping on a 1070. I'd think they'd want to announce something soon?

should be announcing something Wednesday

 

[xkramz]

Yes, but most people who buy a videocard don't buy one to replace it in 6 months.

The 1070 is right now overkill, but wait a while and it becomes standard. PC requirements will start to climb, and in a year or so you'll see the 1070 in the "recommended" specs replacing the 970.

it isnt overkill if you want a 120 or 144 hz monitor.

 

[Kieli]

Am I correct in assuming that nVIDIA will garner quite a bit of FE sales in the first few months, and then these will tank to zero once the cheaper AIB start releasing?

Or it's very possible that the AIB will be as expensive or more-so than the FE.

 

[Gormenghast]

Or it's very possible that the AIB will be as expensive or more-so than the FE.

They pretty much already are:
http://eu.evga.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?type=0&family=GeForce+10+Series+Family&chipset=GTX+1080

 

[nkarafo]

So the first 1070 topic in GAF about power consumption was wrong. I mean, the 1070 consumes little compared to it's power but in that topic there was the false info that it consumes less than a 960.

 

[metareferential]

As a previous 780ti owner at the 970 launch and a 980ti owner right now, I'm getting a very familiar rush of emotions. I am officially salivating over the 1080ti now, at the very least.

Yep. Can't wait for the new Titans/ti versions.

 

[Mineshaft_Gap]

Seeing as how both the 1080 and 1070 seem to obliterate 1440P gaming, and neither card can competently handle 4K gaming at steady 60FPS or above, the 1070 seems like the obvious choice to me.

If I can't reach 60FPS in 4K then I'm going to cap at 30FPS. If both cards hover between 30-50 in 4K than there's no reason to go 1080. At least not for me.

 

[Teknopathetic]

"if my 2500k (4.5) / 6970 rig can handle DOOM just fine - then 1070/1080 is just overkill right now IMO"

Only if you're not into downsampling, 144hz, or VR.

 

[Bl@de]

I am trying to compare my current Geforce 770 to the Geforce 1070.

It seems that in 3D Mark the performance gain is x2.0, whereas in some games (Witcher 3, The Division, GTA 5) it is more like x2.5-3.0. Why the difference?

Right around 230% performance when you take the GTX 770 as 100%. The closest I found is a performance ranking in the Gamestar review where the 1070 is 237% of the GTX 960 (with 4gb though)

 

[JoeyJungle]

So I was planning on upgrading from my 980ti once the 1080ti hits... Is the 980ti going to be worth anything at that point?

 

[hooijdonk17]

I feel buying the 1070 without seeing Polaris 10 price and performance would be unwise to say the least.

 

[WadeitOut]

I feel buying the 1070 without seeing Polaris 10 price and performance would be unwise to say the least.

Unless there is a bombshell announcement that Nvidia is making the Polaris 10, the decision was already made. And this card won't even be available to buy by June 1st so the point is moot.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I feel buying the 1070 without seeing Polaris 10 price and performance would be unwise to say the least.

If AMD had a card which was equal to 1070 in performance and lower in price, don't you think they would be telling everyone about it instead of hiding it under an NDA until June 29th? This is exactly what happened with the Fury X in case people forgot last year already.

 

[DERF]

My 970 has served me very well the last year, but I upped it to 1440p and it just struggles to much at times. Selling the 970 for around 125$. 250$ then for a 58-60% increase is very worth it for the next year.

 

[xenist]

If AMD had a card which was equal to 1070 in performance and lower in price, don't you think they would be telling everyone about it instead of hiding it under an NDA until June 29th? This is exactly what happened with the Fury X in case people forgot last year already.

Yeah, as much as I'd like to be proven wrong I'm not holding my breath.

 

[Niks]

If AMD had a card which was equal to 1070 in performance and lower in price, don't you think they would be telling everyone about it instead of hiding it under an NDA until June 29th? This is exactly what happened with the Fury X in case people forgot last year already.

Guess we will know tomorrow?

AMD may reveal more concrete details on May 31, when the Computex livestream is set to begin at 10 p.m. Eastern time.

 

[justsomeguy]

Since people seems to miss the text I'll post a screenshot:

https://twitter.com/RyanSmithAT/status/737042686683713536

Cheers pal

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

I feel buying the 1070 without seeing Polaris 10 price and performance would be unwise to say the least.

Why?

AMD isn't competing at this enthusiast level.

 

[PHOENIXZERO]

i already sold my 980ti 3 days before the reveal of the 1080 and 1070 for almost 600$ .Right now i am back on my R9 290x . i will wait for the 1070 normal price. this way i will get better performance and save money.

I am still debating if i should get this or the 1080. but as currently i am still rocking 2 1080P screens, I am not in rush to pay the premium 100$ price. if anything i think its a rip off.

If you're referring to the FE cards there's already superior 3rd party models for sale for less than NIVIDIA's bullshit.

Oh man oh man I can't wait. Got 15+ hrs of overtime too and I'm caught up on my bills... might just say F it and get a founders.

The only one getting F'd in this case would be you though. :\ Might as well wait a few weeks, there's already AIBs out there at a better price.

What's the min psu for this, 500w?

Truth be told I need to upgrade my whole rig but I want to see if I can get one last push out of my 3570k, Z77 3dh mobo and 550w psu!

500 watts would be more than fine for a single card and a 1070, it might be testers using newer, more efficient hardware but there's benches where total system power consumption was under 300 watts, at least at stock.

Am I right in thinking that if I have a GTX 960 2g I can just switch for one of these bad boys and won't need to upgrade my power supply or anything?

In fact it should use less power??

I'm a n00b so I might be wrong :-/

From the benches I saw the 1070 uses less power than the 960, yes. I wager you probably have a good deal of room on your PSU unless it's some crappy pre-built one but still if you can run a 960 you'll be more than fine.

I feel buying the 1070 without seeing Polaris 10 price and performance would be unwise to say the least.

AMD doesn't have squat unfortunately, if they did or at least had a card coming soon that was competitive with a 1070 for less they'd be shouting it from the roof tops, we'd be seeing "leaks" about it but we haven't really heard anything.