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Nvidia shows off Kal-El (Terga3?) SOC

This is incredible stuff. 2011 has been good to Nvidia so far, and very bad for their competitors (AMD + Intel).
 
Rolf NB said:
What the hell is a Coremark?

What is CoreMark?

Processors and associated systems are getting increasingly complex requiring increasingly complex benchmarks to analyze. The current and future EEMBC benchmarks are aimed at specific embedded market segments and are very successful at approximating real-world performance of embedded devices. However, there is also a need for a widely-available, generic benchmark specifically targeted at the processor core. Introducing CoreMark -- Developed by EEMBC, this is a simple, yet sophisticated, benchmark that is designed specifically to test the functionality of a processor core. Running CoreMark produces a single-number score allowing users to make quick comparisons between processors.

http://www.coremark.org/home.php
 
plagiarize said:
they could call them laptops, cause you could put them on your lap!

I meant smart phones.

I've taken to calling smart phones mobile computing devices...

because the phone part of them has become so auxillary.
 
Zaptruder said:
I meant smart phones.

I've taken to calling smart phones mobile computing devices...

because the phone part of them has become so auxillary.
okay :)

some have started having this functionality right? or am i just getting confused by the Zune HD?

still, desktop pcs aren't going anywhere i don't think. you'll always be sacrificing something for a mobile dockable device compared to a dedicated desk oriented computer. the market for them my shrink a bit, but they're always going to be where dedicated PC gamers go, and where businesses go.
 
heise had a look at the CoreBench result and claims it is pure marketing BS:

Doch während Nvidia den CoreMark-Android-Code für Kal-El mit dem GCC 4.4.1 und vielen Optimierungen erzeugt hat (-O3 -mcpu=cortex-a8 -funroll-loops -falign-loops=8 -fgcse-sm -fno-tree-vectorize -marm /Heap / 4:PThreads), gönnte man dem Core 2 Duo nur einen älteren Compiler (GCC 3.4.4 (cygming special, gdc 0.12 using dmd 0.125) -O2 -DPERFORMANCE_RUN=1 -lrt / 2:PThreads). Mit höher optimiertem Code übertrumpft aber im c't-Labor sogar ein Atom D525 (2 Kerne/1,8 GHz) den Kal-El mit 11.311 CoreMark-Punkten (GCC 4.4.4-10 -O3 -DMULTITHREAD=8 -DUSE_PTHREAD -lrt / Heap / 8:PThreads).
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Nvidia-zeigt-Quad-Core-ARM-Tablet-1190778.html

Basically, Nvidia used a much less optimized version of Coremakr compiled with a much older version of GCC to get an unusually low result for the C2D to make Kal-El look much more powerful than it actually is. With an up-to-date compiler and proper optimizations even an Atom D525 outperforms Kal-El in Coremark.
 
wsippel said:
heise had a look at the CoreBench result and claims it is pure marketing BS:


http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Nvidia-zeigt-Quad-Core-ARM-Tablet-1190778.html

Basically, Nvidia used a much less optimized version of Coremakr compiled with a much older version of GCC to get an unusually low result for the C2D to make Kal-El look much more powerful than it actually is. With an up-to-date compiler and proper optimizations even an Atom D525 outperforms Kal-El in Coremark.

Oh NVidia, you sly dogs.

But seriously, isn't this false advertising then and an offense?
 
wsippel said:
heise had a look at the CoreBench result and claims it is pure marketing BS:


http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Nvidia-zeigt-Quad-Core-ARM-Tablet-1190778.html

Basically, Nvidia used a much less optimized version of Coremakr compiled with a much older version of GCC to get an unusually low result for the C2D to make Kal-El look much more powerful than it actually is. With an up-to-date compiler and proper optimizations even an Atom D525 outperforms Kal-El in Coremark.

Good ol Nvidia.
 
NGP is a lot more powerful than Tegra 3 (Kal-el), but smartphones will surpass it and PS3 with ease shortly after.

Series6 is on the horizon.
 
wsippel said:
heise had a look at the CoreBench result and claims it is pure marketing BS:


http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Nvidia-zeigt-Quad-Core-ARM-Tablet-1190778.html

Basically, Nvidia used a much less optimized version of Coremakr compiled with a much older version of GCC to get an unusually low result for the C2D to make Kal-El look much more powerful than it actually is. With an up-to-date compiler and proper optimizations even an Atom D525 outperforms Kal-El in Coremark.
That's the Nvidia I know. I am still in love with my GTX580 though.
 
inner-G said:
Beat a c2d? :o

That benchmark is such BS. Better off just ignoring it completely.

GPU performance should be somewhere in the region of an SGX543MP2. So actually games on Kal-El devices will never be comparable to NGP titles.
 
Log4Girlz said:
What puzzles me about that chart is why use the most powerful super hero's name, Kal-El being superman for christ's sake and then have Batman, Wolverine and Iron Man above him. It makes no sense. lol

Superman gets his ass kicked by any superhero:

Batman: Kryptonite ring (a gift from Supes BTW)
Wolverine: Kryptonite-plated claws on top of adamantium-plated skeleton and regeneration
Iron Man: I'm pretty sure Stark has a Kryptonite Iron Man-suit stacked in his basement. Just in case.
 
NVIDIA is just first to market with these chips. They're ahead of the curve, but in terms of performance, I wouldn't give it to NVIDIA.

TI OMAP + PowerVR does laps around NVIDIA's Tegra chips and their ULP graphical processor.
 
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