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[Tripon]

http://www.vulture.com/2016/06/louis-ck-horace-and-pete-c-v-r.html

So if you’re not looking on the internet, what do you jack off to? Are you one of those weirdos who buy porn on DVD?

Here’s a weirder option: Take a little longer and try to get your imagination frothed up to where it gets you off. What a strange exercise! I hadn’t done that since 1998.

And how’s that going for you, masturbation-wise?

It’s gone pretty well. I kinda like it. It also means: Maybe store it up for a while and wait until you actually have a sexual urge. I don’t know what it’s like for women, but for a lot of guys I know — and myself — masturbation is an anxiety release. If I’m trying to get some work done and getting irritated, just go rub one out and it calms you down. It’s a shame to do that as a swap-out for real sexual connection to your virility and your sexual drive. I don’t have a perfect record, but I am trying to see if I can just let a sexual urge be. Having an internet prohibition really helps. I sometimes have gone to jerk off when I’m not even hard. I’m in a bad mood, so let’s put on Google and find something to get me off. That’s happening every second around the world.

Was it freeing to get away from the Louie character with Horace and Pete?

In a way, yes. The thing that’s tricky about Louie is that it’s autobiography. I made that decision early on, never knowing what impact it would have on my life. I never thought that the show would be widely known. I don’t even have a different last name on Louie. That was stupid of me. I didn’t think it would make me famous. I just figured, I’m going to tell these weird little stories about my life over here in the corner. One of the reasons I picked FX is because it was obscure. Then a few years later I’m like, Boy, my shit’s really out there.

Like who?

My kids and I were listening to satellite radio in the car and Norm Macdonald came on. And he’s doing a bit about the choice of a serial killer to make the grave shallow. He takes you through it. He says, “If I was a murdering psychopath, here’s how I would handle it.” And he tells a long story about standing outside of a woman’s yoga place with a cheese sandwich. To try and lure a woman away he says, “You like cheese sandwiches? I got a whole fucking van full of them.” And when he says “a whole fucking van full of them,” my 14-year-old daughter just died laughing. She’s an intersectional radical feminist, and she finds Norm Macdonald to be the funniest fucking dude.

Are you a feminist?

I don’t feel strongly enough about anything to give myself a label. My daughter is a feminist and I identify with her, with her rights and her feelings, and I’m listening to her. I’m learning from her. But I think the second you say “I am this,” you’ve stopped listening and learning.

Much more in the link. I suggest reading all of it. I quoted a lot, but its all random quotes just to show he jumps from topic to topic in the interview. And yes, he talks about the Gawker rumor. No, you're probably not going to like his answer if you're already decided if its him.

 

[Stinkles]

I like Louis CK. I hope the weird pervert rumors are untrue. Or part of some inner circle meta comedy fakeout.

 

[wenis]

That was a good read from a few days ago. Hopefully his new material hits a bit harder than his last couple specials.

 

[The Lamonster]

I like Louis CK. I hope the weird pervert rumors are untrue. Or part of some inner circle meta comedy fakeout.

It is concerning that he hasn't really even denied it (has he?).

I do agree that you shouldn't have to defend yourself left and right from internet rumors, but this was a pretty big one...

 

[HStallion]

I like Louis CK. I hope the weird pervert rumors are untrue. Or part of some inner circle meta comedy fakeout.

He's no Tim Allen.

 

[metsallica]

I like Louis CK. I hope the weird pervert rumors are untrue. Or part of some inner circle meta comedy fakeout.

It is concerning that he hasn't really even denied it (has he?).

I do agree that you shouldn't have to defend yourself left and right from internet rumors, but this was a pretty big one...

I've followed him since he was just doing local gigs in NY and this is the first I've heard of this. Can you guys elaborate? I don't want to derail the thread, so maybe just tell me what to search for?

 

[msdstc]

It is concerning that he hasn't really even denied it (has he?).

I do agree that you shouldn't have to defend yourself left and right from internet rumors, but this was a pretty big one...

Yeah I don't think he has, and he does nothing here to say it wasn't him. In fact all he does is say your image isn't always going to be perfect... wtf does that mean.

 

[dave is ok]

It is concerning that he hasn't really even denied it (has he?).

I do agree that you shouldn't have to defend yourself left and right from internet rumors, but this was a pretty big one...

He denies it explicitly in the interview this thread is about (kinda)

 

[Arkeband]

Well this thread was derailed into something other than the article within 1 post.

Back on topic:

I find it weird that he doesn't want to accept the label of feminist yet he casually referred to his daughter as one.

 

[Orbis Tabula]

Well this thread was derailed into something other than the article within 1 post.

Back on topic:

I find it weird that he doesn't want to accept the label of feminist yet he casually referred to his daughter as one.

I think there's a big hump for a lot of people with the label "feminist." For some people, you spend your whole life hearing about stereotypes of feminism and not really second-guessing it. It's really easy to, later in life, get in conversations with people who say a lot of reasonable, obvious things you agree with only to find that that's all feminism is. Nonetheless, for some reason, that label is still a bit of a mental hurdle.

 

[dakun]

Well this thread was derailed into something other than the article within 1 post.

Back on topic:

I find it weird that he doesn't want to accept the label of feminist yet he casually referred to his daughter as one.

well he can't really control what his daughter labels herself with. So if her daughter told him she's a feminist what else can he do than to refer to her as one?

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

lol...Norm Macdonald is the funniest fucking dude. That serial killer bit was hilarious.

 

[Zach]

But I think the second you say “I am this,” you’ve stopped listening and learning.

I can relate to this. My 14-year-old son and I were just talking about how I don't consider myself a democrat even though I always vote democrat. Seems like you're boxing yourself in, and closing your mind to different ideas and views.

 

[Takuan]

I like Louis CK. I hope the weird pervert rumors are untrue. Or part of some inner circle meta comedy fakeout.

Wasn't it confirmed to be Doug Stanhope?

 

[Sapiens]

I like Louis CK. I hope the weird pervert rumors are untrue. Or part of some inner circle meta comedy fakeout.

It is concerning that he hasn't really even denied it (has he?).

I do agree that you shouldn't have to defend yourself left and right from internet rumors, but this was a pretty big one...

I've followed him since he was just doing local gigs in NY and this is the first I've heard of this. Can you guys elaborate? I don't want to derail the thread, so maybe just tell me what to search for?

It's all nonsense. All of it.

 

[The Elite]

Well this thread was derailed into something other than the article within 1 post.

Back on topic:

I find it weird that he doesn't want to accept the label of feminist yet he casually referred to his daughter as one.

He won't accept the label for himself but that doesn't mean he doesn't acknowledge what it means and the importance of it to others.

 

[Beartruck]

I like Louis CK. I hope the weird pervert rumors are untrue. Or part of some inner circle meta comedy fakeout.

Im guessing they probably aren't. In an interview with jon stewart for the axe files, a girl asked him about it since he knows louis and his response was basically "You have a source for that? Oh, the internet? That's cute."

 

[Stinkles]

Wasn't it confirmed to be Doug Stanhope?

I hope so. I had heard CK plus the chicks from Broad City. And it all made me sad.

 

[Tripon]

I think its odd that Louis C.K. didn't think Louie would be big, but maybe part of it is that he didn't realize how big streaming would be for a show like his. I caught Louie when the first two seasons were on Netflix. I didn't need to catch FX, it was just there to watch. Watching a serialized autobiography is captivating, especially in the way Louie captured his life.

 

[Takuan]

I hope so. I had heard CK plus the chicks from Broad City. And it all made me sad.

Shrug, makes no difference to me. A lot of comedians are barely sane and extremely deviant, which can sometimes help their act. I don't need to believe they're good people in order to be entertained by them.

 

[wenis]

I think there's a big hump for a lot of people with the label "feminist." For some people, you spend your whole life hearing about stereotypes of feminism and not really second-guessing it. It's really easy to, later in life, get in conversations with people who say a lot of reasonable, obvious things you agree with only to find that that's all feminism is. Nonetheless, for some reason, that label is still a bit of a mental hurdle.

It's not necessarily feminism that is the mental hurdle, but labels in general are just awful for a lot of people, soon as you subscribe to one that's just how most people will always see you. Even if you don't believe in everything that particular label brings along with it. I know I don't particularly want to ever label myself anything, especially being a minority I already have enough shit to deal with besides what my political or social leanings are.

 

[Stinkles]

He won't accept the label for himself but that doesn't mean he doesn't acknowledge what it means and the importance of it to others.

Eh, I'm a "feminist" but I'm not confident that I'm using the label correctly, or that I have standing to make that claim, or that it's politically correct to state it in that way, so I might have answered the question as delicately, I suppose.

 

[Boney]

I think its odd that Louis C.K. didn't think Louie would be big, but maybe part of it is that he didn't realize how big streaming would be for a show like his. I caught Louie when the first two seasons were on Netflix. I didn't need to catch FX, it was just there to watch. Watching a serialized autobiography is captivating, especially in the way Louie captured his life.

He was already hitting big when Louie was getting made and he even had Lucky Louie before hand right?

I've always thought that being so open about his family is a bit risky. Not because of his relationship with his daughters as it seems very strong and having that breath of honesty from that time period can do wonders to acknowledge them as individuals. But how his and his family's private life is exposed, especially when going on television.

 

[CopperPuppy]

I hope so. I had heard CK plus the chicks from Broad City. And it all made me sad.

Wait, what? Had read those random rumors about CK a while back, but never anything about the Broad City duo.

 

[uncelestial]

Meh, the online faction who believes men can't be feminists is really small. For the most part I think women are glad to hear it when a man declares himself feminist. I identify as feminist. I'm sure some hardcore 2nd waver will get in my face about it someday, but I will probably just shrug it off. Feminism, like every political movement, always has an element that you can't quite hang with, despite supportimg the larger goal.

That all said, I don't fault Louis for his reasons; his material has a lot of empathetic/good ally shit in it, and I think his heart is in the right place. Maybe he just can't unsee that element I'm talking about and doesn't want to answer for it. There are people for whom feminism is "equality" and others who use it to channel their antipathy about many unrelated things.

 

[uncelestial]

The rumors were so scurrilous and ill sourced and bullshit-sounding I'm disappointed they're becoming a thing in every thread he gets mentioned. Relax: it's ok to like Louis CK.

 

[Tripon]

I hope so. I had heard CK plus the chicks from Broad City. And it all made me sad.

The Broad City cast never named anybody.

 

[Blader]

It is concerning that he hasn't really even denied it (has he?).

I do agree that you shouldn't have to defend yourself left and right from internet rumors, but this was a pretty big one...

heh, well this kind of sums up the problem doesn't it? "You shouldn't have to defend yourself against internet rumors, but he hasn't denied this one yet, sooo....."

The Broad City cast never named anybody.

Well, nobody was explicitly named in that rumor, iirc.

 

[Madrin]

I like Louis CK. I hope the weird pervert rumors are untrue. Or part of some inner circle meta comedy fakeout.

A lot of them are probably untrue, but there was at least one female comedian who said on her podcast that a male comedian did or said inappropriate things to her, and it was very clear that she was referring to Louis without explicitly saying his name. So I'm sure he has his moments.

 

[uncelestial]

Yes, Doug Stanhope said it was him.

https://www.facebook.com/officialstanhope/posts/10150756375231337

 

[Abounder]

Holy shit it was Gawker that wrote the masturbation story? I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised, lol. Anyway as a fan it sucks to see Louis deal with those rumors + rumors about losing $ on Horace and Pete + divorce drama, but at least the former doesn't really faze him. Like he says, you'd have to be 'sick in the head' to worry that much about your public perception

The idea of click-bait and what you see as online misinformation — is part of what you’re thinking of the Gawker items from last year?
No. I don’t care about that. That’s nothing to me. That’s not real. For me, Horace and Pete was derailed in terms of its trajectory by this idea that spread online that it was canceled and that I lost money.5 A good friend of mine who’s a movie producer emailed me and said, “Hey, I’m really sorry about Horace and Pete.” Having to disabuse people of this thing could really hurt me with something like the Emmys if people perceive the show as a dead project. I took that pretty fucking personally.

You didn’t feel any compulsion to address the Gawker stuff? I’ve never seen you talk about it.
Well, you can’t touch stuff like that. There’s one more thing I want to say about this, and it’s important: If you need your public profile to be all positive, you’re sick in the head. I do the work I do, and what happens next I can’t look after. So my thing is that I try to speak to the work whenever I can. Just to the work and not to my life.

 

[Tom Nook Sawyer]

Yes, Doug Stanhope said it was him.

https://www.facebook.com/officialstanhope/posts/10150756375231337

Uhhh, isn't this extremely obviously a joke?

 

[Systolique]

Holy shit it was Gawker that wrote the masturbation story?

I remember in the Gawker story ran, one of the sources was "a commenter from our website", kek.

Always felt like like a sad joke, and good response from Louis, he couldn't have worded it better.

 

[Tripon]

Uhhh, isn't this extremely obviously a joke?

That's the point. Doug Stanhope is the only person who claimed any acknowledgement of the Gawker rumor, but everyone who gives it any credence believes it's Louis C.K. despite no evidence that it is him. That's how fucked up rumors can be and why Gawker can be incredibly damaging.

 

[Stinkles]

Yes, Doug Stanhope said it was him.

https://www.facebook.com/officialstanhope/posts/10150756375231337

Haha wow.


What a turd (although I usedto enjoy his schtick). I am relieved it's not Louis.

 

[IggyChooChoo]

The Broad City cast never named anybody.

Jen Kirkman all but named Louis CK in her podcast. Then she deleted the episode. That was when I started to take it more seriously than just an anonymous internet rumor. It was supposedly Garfunkel and Oates (Riki Lindhome/Kate Micucci), not the Broad City women. I am not saying CK did it (Iam a huge fan and hope he didn't), but there seems to be a little bit more to it than pure rumor.

http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2015/08/jen-kirkman-louis-ck-comments-clarified

 

[Blader]

Jen Kirkman also said the comedian was married. Louis has been divorced for almost 10 years (and I don't think was a 'Cosby-level' comedian when he was still married).

Also, she has called Louis an old friend.

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

The funniest comedian alive. Love this guy (though his last special wasn't the best).

Im guessing they probably aren't. In an interview with jon stewart for the axe files, a girl asked him about it since he knows louis and his response was basically "You have a source for that? Oh, the internet? That's cute."

That's not all he said. He also said he's known Louis for 30-odd years and has never known him to be anything but a gentleman. He laughed because he was taken aback by the rumor, and then brushed it off because it's an unverified internet rumor from a shitty website and people treat it as gospel.

Edit: This is great:

Sometimes I think the system is so deeply fucked up that somebody as disruptive as Bernie — maybe he doesn’t even do a good job as president but he jars something loose in our system and something exciting happens. I mean, Hillary is better at this than any of these people. The American government is a very volatile, dangerous mechanism, and Hillary has the most experience with it. It’s like if you were on a plane and you wanted to choose a pilot. You have one person, Hillary, who says, “Here’s my license. Here’s all the thousands of flights that I’ve flown. Here’s planes I’ve flown in really difficult situations. I’ve had some good flights and some bad flights, but I’ve been flying for a very long time, and I know exactly how this plane works.” Then you’ve got Bernie, who says, “Everyone should get a ride right to their house with this plane.” “Well, how are you going to do that?” “I just think we should. It’s only fair that everyone gets to use the plane equally.” And then Trump says, “I’m going to fly so well. You’re not going to believe how good I’m going to fly this plane, and by the way, Hillary never flew a plane in her life.” “She did, and we have pictures.” “No, she never did it.” It’s insane.

 

[Stinkles]

The funniest comedian alive. Love this guy (though his last special wasn't the best).



That's not all he said. He also said he's known Louis for 30-odd years and has never known him to be anything but a gentleman. He laughed because he was taken aback by the rumor, and then brushed it off because it's an unverified internet rumor from a shitty website and people treat it as gospel.

Also sucks that you're forced to deny something so ludicrous that it creats the appearance of smoke/fire. Like Richard Gere's butt hamster, only worse.

 

[IggyChooChoo]

Jen Kirkman also said the comedian was married. Louis has been divorced for almost 10 years (and I don't think was a 'Cosby-level' comedian when he was still married).

Also, she has called Louis an old friend.

The timeline on this stuff is hazy -- did she mean that he was "Cosby-level" at the time of the alleged harassment, or at the time when her friends were counseling her not to talk about it publicly? She referred to this person as an auteur like Woody Allen -- Chris Rock produces movies, but would he have had Jen Kirkman tour with him? Would Seinfeld? Would Gervais? There are only so many people in that category. Bottom line is I don't know why Kirkman would make it up, so this stuff continues to worry me a bit.

 

[Zepp Twofist]

It's all nonsense. All of it.

I'm sometimes surprised how people on this forum always takes piece of trash rumor website articles as definite truth. It usually crops up in every thread about a male celebrity.