nahEvaPlusMinus said:For it's scope, art direction, and goal that Bungie was trying to create, they made the graphics as good as they could.
I don't know, it just felt kinda lazy to me.
nahEvaPlusMinus said:For it's scope, art direction, and goal that Bungie was trying to create, they made the graphics as good as they could.
AltogetherAndrews said:And this coming from an oversensitive nancy who couldn't even handle a simple "human models don't look very good" without breaking into a hyperventilating nerd jig.
Well, why is that silly? You don't think games are established as standards because of whatever quality do you? It's The Big Game Of 2007, of course it's going to become the new standard. Stuff would be compared to Halo 3 if it looked like Wolfenstein 3D. Most would be favorable comparisons, but it'd still be the standard. Gears wasn't the best looking 360 game even when it was released, more than a couple games did many things better. But it still became the standard because it was The Big Game of 2006. Just how Crysis won't become the new standard, no matter how goddamn good it looks.AltogetherAndrews said:There's nothing fundamentally different in this situation versus the previous situations, and that's precisely the problem. The values have changed for no other reason than because it now happens to apply to Halo 3, and that's silly.
youravatar.jpgJenga said:nah
I don't know, it just felt kinda lazy to me.
dems fightin werdsbesada said:Ah, too much of a pussy to do this in the thread where it started. Feeling tough in this one? You're a troll AA, a big one.
Jenga said:nah
I don't know, it just felt kinda lazy to me.
EvaPlusMinus said:So you are willing to get rid of all the features that will make Halo 3 the most played game online just to spiff up the graphics?
Some of you people are fucking crazy.
The graphics are JUST FINE for a game with as large a scope as Halo 3's. Look at the screenshot thread.
Fucking crazy, I tell you.
Like? I´m really curious.Son of Godzilla said:Gears wasn't the best looking 360 game even when it was released, more than a couple games did many things better.
Really? It's still the best looking game on the platform (imo?) and it will remain so until UT3 releases next spring. Yeye, I'm aware of scale and all that but still, it really is a big step ahead of Halo 3.Son of Godzilla said:Gears wasn't the best looking 360 game even when it was released
Or because it's Killzone 2.AltogetherAndrews said:There's nothing fundamentally different in this situation versus the previous situations, and that's precisely the problem. The values have changed for no other reason than because it now happens to apply to Halo 3, and that's silly. The same arguments were made last year, but then they were scoffed off as "well it doesn't look exactly like Gears so it's inferior".
besada said:
besada said:Ah, too much of a pussy to do this in the thread where it started. Feeling tough in this one? You're a troll AA, a big one. You entered a fun little screenshot party in an attempt to derail a thread and you got called on it by plenty of people. If you want to discuss this, do it in a PM, or have the balls to do it in the thread where it started, rather than coming at me in this thread.
So what's it going to be girlie? You seem willing to dish it out, but take a gander at every Haze thread you published and your constant keening whine about keeping out Halo comparisons, or your steady dribble of spew about how unfair it is to call Haze generic.
In short, wah, wah, wah.
Wollan said:Really? It's still the best looking game on the platform (imo?) and it will remain so until UT3 releases next spring. Yeye, I'm aware of scale and all that but still, it really is a big step ahead of Halo 3.
Watched a friend beat it, and played with him last night on co-op. Games fun, but it honestly does feel lacking in the graphics department.EvaPlusMinus said:Again, have you beaten the game?
All of that new stuff doesn't really bring anything new to gameplay in a shooter. It's new to Halo, but stuff like the Flamethrower, sheild grenade, and incendiary grenade have all been done by a game that I will not mention. The gravity hammer is a sword that can take out vehicles. All the new vehicles with the exeption of the elephant bring nothing truly new to the table. The chopper is like a ghost and wraith mix, the ATV is a faster warthog, ect.GhaleonEB said:I don't recall anything similar to the Gravity Hammer, Flamethrower, incendiary grenade or Chopper in Halo 2, to name a few. And you disregard Equipment entirely, along with support weapons - two entire classes of weaponry that are not in the previous games both of which change the gameplay to a large degree. Within the missions themselves, new options abound. The Scarab fight was scripted in Halo 2, now it's AI controlled and there's tons of different ways to go about it. There was nothing approaching the vehicle brawl at the end of Tsavo highway - nothing on that scale in previous games. Fighting a Brute Chieftain or Brute Pack is a very new experience to the series.
You can carry opinion only so far before you start ignoring reality. The new content (weapons, vehicles, equipment, enemies) and level/encounter structure do change things substantially. You still jump, shoot, melee and drive vehicles, and in that sense you can argue that it's the same as Halo 2. But even a cursory glance below the surface reveals scores of new gameplay options.
NYtimes is the only reviewer to get it right?NaughtyCalibur said:Hearing this crap on GAF is bad enough, but now the NYTimes? :lol
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/27/t...tml?_r=2&ref=circuits&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
Lock if old.
Youre quite crazy if you dont mind (calling other people crazy because their thinking different than your). / pong.EvaPlusMinus said:So you are willing to get rid of all the features that will make Halo 3 the most played game online just to spiff up the graphics?
Some of you people are fucking crazy.
The graphics are JUST FINE for a game with as large a scope as Halo 3's. Look at the screenshot thread.
Fucking crazy, I tell you.
Dr_Cogent said:I'm not an online gamer like you guys are, so yeah - I wouldn't mind it being that way.
I favor a much richer SP over MP anyday. The characters in single player games don't act like assholes and talk shit out of their mouths like a prepubescent punk.
I never cared for the NYTimes, and I care even less now.
f@luS said:Youre quite crazy if you dont mind (calling other people crazy because their thinking different than your). / pong.
Seriously, stop this scop crap. I am done with the SP, and it was never "that" huge. A lot of background isnt modelled for real, and the IQ stay quite bad.
I though the game was good looking sometimes, really , especially in the mission 6/7 (when c°°°°° spaceship crash) , but its more due to art than tech. ANd do say go to screenshot thread, unless you have a cheatcode to activate AA.
Stop this "scope is insane so graphic are "fine" considering it" crap i said.EvaPlusMinus said:I'm honestly not even sure what the hell I just read here.
siamesedreamer said:Are you simple? I said "PLAYS" exactly as intended...as in the mechanics (like you mentioned).
Enjoyment is quite obviously subjective.
besada said:No one cares if you don't like it. That's the reality. You're the one getting spun by this shit, not the Halo fans. We're playing a fun game while people like you twitch out because you think it's getting too much attention.
Frankly, even though H3 is more than I ever expected, it keeps on giving by sending twits into tizzies for my amusement.
f@luS said:Stop this "scope is insane so graphic are "fine" considering it" crap i said.
And dont say "go screenshot thread to see how good it looks" unless you give a cheatcode allowing to add AA ingame. Because the IQ is really bad sometimes (especially indoor, with a lot of box and other stuff....aliasing mess)
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AltogetherAndrews said:You called me out for supposedly being a horrible troll based on one quite innocent remark
Playing the game is a better representation.duk said:NY Times should see the Halo 3 screenshot thead.
EvaPlusMinus said:Thanks
And aside from a little bit of AA, my Halo 3 looks exactly like the images in that thread. Get a new TV, perhaps?
Davidion said:Really, I'm getting spun?
f@luS said:Did i say that aside from a little bit of AA , it doesnt look like that? but ingame , you see your gun, not ur model , or only a little bit when you grab a big gun/turret. And yet , the lack of AA really hurt the visual, especially in bright area. It is beautiful sometimes, but it can also be really bad looking (mission 2 is errrrrrrrr......) it shows that the engine isnt good but art can compensate .
gameplay standpoint? ill agree, loved it. Im just dissapointed about the tech in the game (even framerate sometimes drop a bit) but i loved it thoughEvaPlusMinus said:So be honest, levels 1 and 2 just plain sucked.
Three and up was a thrill ride, though.
besada said:You're the one who felt the need to take a deep calming breath (in writing, no less) over the fact that other people think Halo 3 is a stronger game than you do, so yeah, spun.
besada said:You continue to provide me with almost as much joy as that time I saw you completely flame out in the NPD thread. I eagerly await your next meltdown.
They are saying it plays like Halo 2. I'd say being exposed at least somewhat to the game would give them a better representation.Wollan said:Playing the game is a better representation.
There was a lot of backlash from Halo 2, from both it's campaign and drastically altered multiplayer. I know I wouldn't be the only one incredibly upset if Halo 3 kept most the gaffes that made the multiplayer just... terrible in Halo 2.The better question is, why would it upset anyone even if that was the case? Fans want more of what they like, and obviously Halo 1 and 2 are games they like. By most accounts, Halo 3 seems like a logical step forward, not revolutionizing anything but providing a good finish to the series. I don't see how that's necessarily a negative.
So Halo 3 vs Resistance, gogogo. Edit: The fuck? You stealth editor... or something...AltogetherAndrews said:No I don't and no you don't, kid. I clearly upset you, deeply. Even ridiculously small remarks upset your sensitive heart, as is evident by your reaction in that thread (to which I avoided responding further because your overreaction served as quite enough of a derailment), and in this thread. This joy and amusement you keep yapping about, that's just a load of crap.
Son of Godzilla said:There was a lot of backlash from Halo 2, from both it's campaign and drastically altered multiplayer. I know I wouldn't be the only one incredibly upset if Halo 3 kept most the gaffes that made the multiplayer just... terrible in Halo 2.
Tieno said:Or because it's Killzone 2.
2 sides are playing this 'game'.
AltogetherAndrews said:No I don't and no you don't, kid.
Oh for sure. I'm just in retrospect in part annoyed about last year's GOW vs Resistance debacle, if that hasn't been obvious all along.
AltogetherAndrews said:No I don't and no you don't, kid.
besada said:You're the one who felt the need to take a deep calming breath (in writing, no less) over the fact that other people think Halo 3 is a stronger game than you do, so yeah, spun.
besada said:Yeah, we all know. You bring it up all the time and it's hilarious, kid.
Son of Godzilla said:So Halo 3 vs Resistance, gogogo. Edit: The fuck? You stealth editor... or something...
AltogetherAndrews said:Not saying that Resistance didn't have its visual shortcomings because it sure did, but judging by today's values, it'd seem as if those flaws would have been glossed over in light of its strengths (and excused by account of its scope and battlefield density) quite a bit more than they were then.
AltogetherAndrews said:Again, you don't find this hilarious at all, so stop pretending you do.