Kowashitai
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It's more similar to Muramasa than DC. The focus is more on high speed combos and special attacks now, at least in the demo, than on outfitting your character with the best equipment like in DC.
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Odin Sphere Leifthrasir Review Thread
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It's more similar to Muramasa than DC. The focus is more on high speed combos and special attacks now, at least in the demo, than on outfitting your character with the best equipment like in DC.
Persona 4 Golden was the highest rated game released in 2012 because quality and popularity aren't the same thing.
http://www.metacritic.com/browse/ga...ear/all/filtered?sort=desc&year_selected=2012
And there are countless other examples of niche games scoring 80+.
robotzombie
Member
Personal 4 Golden is a very unfair comparison
sixteen-bit
Member
Impressive scores. Will pick up the vita version eventually.
http://www.metacritic.com/browse/ga...ear/all/filtered?sort=desc&year_selected=2016
Are these 2016 releases all unfair comparisons, too?
Stephen's Sausage Roll 90
Stardew valley 88
Fire Emblem 88
Ori 87
The Witness 87
Salt and Sanctuary 86
Pony Island 86
BlazBlue 85
Assault Android Cactus 85
Darkest Dungeon 84
Hyper Light Drifter 84
Enter the Gungeon 84
Grim Dawn 83
Devil Daggers 83
Danganronpa 83
Banner Saga 2 83
Severed 83
Lovers in a Dangerous Spacetime 82
Invisible Inc 82
Superhot 82
Bravely Second 81
Firewatch 81
Samorost 3 81
Kowashitai
Banned
He seems vindicated on the normal difficulty at least according to the reviews. They say it is easy on difficulties below hard.
Yup.
sloppyjoe_gamer
Gold Member
Is there a PS4 demo for this?
SolidSnakex
Member
That was a major point of the reworking of this game. That's why they have the original mode selectable as "Classic Mode".
WaterAstro
Member
Wait, it's coming out next week? Wuuuuuuuuuuuuut?
What are the chances I can get this on E3 deals...
What are the chances I can get this on E3 deals...
You see the irony here right?
Yautja_Warrior
Member
For some reason I never played the original, so I'm looking forward to playing this, glad to see the scores are good.
Started playing Dust an Elysian Tail recently, forgot I had it on PS Plus but I'm really enjoying it so far, even if it's a little on the easy side. It should get me in the mood for Odin Sphere though.
Started playing Dust an Elysian Tail recently, forgot I had it on PS Plus but I'm really enjoying it so far, even if it's a little on the easy side. It should get me in the mood for Odin Sphere though.
//ARCANUM
Member
This is a weird question, but does anyone know if this game uses the right analog stick or not? My wife has trouble playing games with a control pad but can play them just fine (and enjoys doing so) on a Fightstick. I'm wondering if she could actually play this game with a Fightstick. Does it require the D-Pad and Right analog stick? Or can she just use the Left analog and face/L/R buttons?
Kowashitai
Banned
It's a remake, not a remaster. They completely redid the gameplay to make it faster and added in skills, directional moves, changes to level design and menus, among other changes. It's not just an HD polish job.
UmbraeCruxis
Banned
Have you played it yet? Apparently the combat is very different than before and it seems like there are other changes in the game. Not fair to say this isnt worth it when it has had a lot done to it when other remasters (not ratchet and clank) sell for that price as well.
It's also substantially longer than ratchet and clank from what it looks like.
That would be me, and most reviews/impressions of the game mention that it's too easy on Normal and still pretty damn easy on Hard. My concerns were valid, it seems.
I'm still getting it, of course. I just know going in that the challenge simply won't be there, even on Hard.
Then I don't see how they 'fixed' anything.
Not when you play Ratchet and Clank seven times in a row.
UnluckyKate
Member
Seven ? There is not 5 Characters ?
WaterAstro
Member
That's how the story works. The five characters are adventuring through the same story at the same time. It's fundamental to the game that you're playing the same content for the sake of the story. You don't break a game to fix it.
He's right. It is incredibly easy.
Doniell Hall
Member
And you unlock a timeline flow chart that shows where each char was in relation to other chars in certain parts of the story. It might feel repetitive, but it is essential to getting a fuller understanding of what is going on.
Even on Hard and Hell difficulty?
Did you try the New Game Plus mode that makes enemies harder as well?
Psyrgery ES
Member
I heard this game is on Ps3 as well, right? Would love to play it but I don't own a Ps4
Hell is probably challenging due to the 200HP limit, but that's a mode that has to be unlocked by completing the entire game once first.
The modes available to the player at the start are all easy. Hard is recommended for most gamers who are decent at action games, but even then it sounds like it's not very challenging. Classic Mode will be like the original game, so it will be harder than Leifthrasir.
I made that other thread because I was worried that this would be the case. In my mind we should've gotten the new content of Leifthrasir along with beefed up, aggressive AI to maintain the balanced challenge of the original. The game is already somewhat repetitive, and the effect is amplified when the enemies are just combo fodder without much fight in them. It's still gonna be a great game, but I think it could've been even better if Normal/Hard offered a bit more of a challenge to make the game feel less like you're on autopilot, mowing through endless swathes of apathetic enemies.
robotzombie
Member
yeah, a nice chunk of them
Nah, the repetitive is noticeable when you are into the second half the game. They can't fix it unless they make new dungeons, which they didn't.
Hard is still very easy. I didn't really bother with Hell or NG+ given they take forever to unlock and it's not exactly a game I want to replay right away.
No? It definitely looks like there are some brand-new areas in Leifthrasir that were absent in the original. Look at these locations:
Yeah, I could tell as much from all of the videos on YouTube showing gameplay from the Japanese release. I'm not sure why so many people took offense to my thread. It was a valid concern, and still is.
Break the game? How is fixing horrible game design breaking the game?
It felt like 20 tbh.
Another baseless claim with nothing to support it, just like the original nonsense about niche games scoring 70-80 regardless of quality.
That's not new dungeon, just a few new rooms in the existing dungeons. They get old too when you are visiting for the third time. I beat the game because I absolutely love the art style and the story and the characters, and I think it takes no less to beat it.
dreamlongdead
Member
I played this years ago on PS2 and loved it. I wouldn't mind double dipping with this remake on PS4/Vita.
WaterAstro
Member
Because it's not horrible? Each character is travelling to the same areas that obviously should have the same enemies, and each character plays differently which makes each playthrough different as you approach fighting these enemies in a different way.
How would you fix it if you think it's broken?
Lord of Ostia
Member
Not all of those games are really all that niche, some are but things like Firewatch, The Witness, Superhot, and Ori received press attention greater than most AAA games receive, and we're highly anticipated. Fire Emblem is no longer really a niche franchise now that it sells 1 million plus units, and Bravely Second is a sequel to a critically acclaimed and very successful game. The rest are relatively niche, but not in the same way an Odin Sphere remake is. Also, gaming press is notoriously hot and cold toward Vanillaware's titles. Dragon's Crown reviewed well, but Muramasa faired worse and its remake was largely ignored.
Oooo I may give another try
