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Official 2007 MLB Thread - The quest for another .500 champion

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siamesedreamer said:
I just hope that turn around doesn't come at the behest of a Salty trade.
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I don't see you guys trading him. Wasn't there talk of converting him to a first baseman just to keep him in the lineup every day?

EDIT - We should make a play to get Floyd back. We're short on outfielders and the Cubs have too many.
 
Link said:
I don't see you guys trading him. Wasn't there talk of converting him to a first baseman just to keep him in the lineup every day?

EDIT - We should make a play to get Floyd back. We're short on outfielders and the Cubs have too many.
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Schoeneweis for Floyd straight up.
 
siamesedreamer said:
I'm not willing to concede yet, but its going to take gargantuan turn abouts by the pitchers on the back end of the staff. I mean, they have been absolutely dreadful. I'm at the point now where I would give Villareal some starts.

I just hope that turn around doesn't come at the behest of a Salty trade.
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Fun fact- the Braves have already used 19 pitchers this year. And we're probably about to see some more. I don't know why we don't give these guys a try:

Manny Acosta (AAA) 0.95 ERA 1.05 WHIP 38 IP 37 K
Buddy Hernandez (AAA) 2.19 ERA 1.00 WHIP 37 IP 27 K

They're both relievers, true, but that would at least free up trying to use Villareal and/or Moylan in the rotation. I mean, those two tend not to get used unless it's a blow out one way or the other anyway, right? Might as well use 'em as starters since the other guys aren't working out. Davies has to be banished back to Richmond- it's officially now time to shake things up- we're still only 2 back. Wait a week and we could seriously be 8 or 9 back.
 
Also, it pains me just to type this... but any news on... gulp... TANYON STURTZE? Can't seem to find anything recent, last thing was a blurb from over a month ago saying he might start throwing soon.
 
Mifune said:
I miss Cliff Floyd.
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You ain't the only one. I said it Tuesday, he's the guy that helped keep everything level on the team. Floyd and Wright were good friends, he always clowned w/ Reyes and he was another guy who kept pressure off Beltran (who IMHO is playing hurt, he can't run with his knee at all).

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David Wright's blog in April 2006 said:
Speaking of veterans, I think Cliff is going to be delegating his bag carrying duties between a couple of new rookies this season. It looks like Brian Bannister and Anderson Hernandez are taking over for me this year. As long as I don’t have to do it anymore!

Seriously, though, Cliff will take good care of them, like he did for me. I had to do a lot of chores but he always took care of me, too. He bought me some nice new suits and took me to dinner, so it was well worth it. I’m sure he won’t be too hard on Brian and Anderson, either.
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Triumph Dolomite 1300cc said:
Davies has to be banished back to Richmond- it's officially now time to shake things up- we're still only 2 back. Wait a week and we could seriously be 8 or 9 back.
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Yeah, that's under the assumption that the Mets are going to start winning again at some point.
 
Link said:
Yeah, that's under the assumption that the Mets are going to start winning again at some point.
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Well then, we could be 4 or 5 back if the Phils keep up like they have been. Either way, now is the time to act IMO. We're almost half way home.
 
Good game by the Doyers tonight, Seems Betemit doesn't want to lose his job afterall. Penny finally had a good outing against the Mets, I was a little worried when I saw his lifetime record. Hopefully they can keep this going into the Anaheim series.

HOMERUN POWAH!



P.S. Anyone know what the hell happened between Penny and Green?
 
well you never know what Mr. Schuerholz will pull out of his hat. I mean anything can happen with him, we got our closer for some low level prospect.
 
This Marlins team is a pretty scary team. They can tag 6 runs on you and make it look effortless. Miguel Cabrera, really reminds me of a young Manny Ramirez. Unflappable at the plate and a guy who can get hot and put together ungodly numbers for 3 straight weeks.

Like a lot of top NL teams, their weakness is in their 3-4-5 pitchers. Most would be lucky to be long relief guys with the AL's good teams. I think that's the big difference in talent between the two leagues.

Hopefully, we can steal another game away today. Next will be Atlanta, a team that is also in a similar mini-tailspin like the Tribe. Should be interesting to see who breaks out of their funk at the other team's expense.
 
ESPN.Com is reporting that Giambi isn't cooperating and that Selig may soon suspend him. I find the whole situation pretty retarded. Suspend him over something that he admitted to doing years and years ago. Will they erase Bonds from the Hall of Fame once he breaks the record if it is ever proven that he took steroids? Doubt it. It's not like Giambi has been caught doing steroids now. I pretty much agree with what he said and give him credit for having the balls to do it. Despite it probably being a bad move on his part.
 
I'm glad Giambi won't snitch.
He's been more honest about these things than anyone else has been - or even had to be - and still, he's never actually been caught doing them or failed any tests or whatever, either. Subsequently, it makes no sense to suspend him or whatever. Selig's only worried about his legacy as the guy that ignored steroids in baseball/pro sports, so he's gotta do everything he can to cover his ass.


...also, Mets fans - you really miss Cliff Floyd that much, like he'd have you guys turned around right now?

Really? :lol
 
Mets fans, Floyd can't field at all, which is why he is a part time player. There is a reason he's mainly just pinch hitting while JACQUE JONES starts everyday.
I know his personal problems are a part of that, but seriously, he is not a productive everyday player. As a 4th outfielder he's perfect, though.

Floyd is not the answer for a struggling Mets team.



edit: http://dugout.progressiveboink.com/archive/jon122.html :lol :lol :lol
 
HEY NERDS THIS IS AN INTERESTING ARTICLE

Taking a look at BABiP
posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 | Feedback | Print Entry

ATTENTION, NERDS: THERE IS NEW NEWS ABOUT BABIP.

If you're not a nerd, you might not know that BABiP stands for Batting Average on Balls in Play. This is something we've been following for six or seven years now, and in fact it's a key ingredient in the toolbox of every sabermetrician (professional or amateur).

Why? Because -- as the theory goes -- once the batter makes contact, it really doesn't matter who threw the pitch. Major leaguers are going to hit .300 when the ball's put in play, and it really doesn't matter much whether the pitcher is Johan Santana or Carlos Silva. Like flipping coins.

That's generally true, and incredibly useful. But while the inventor, Voros McCracken, once wrote that "there is little if any difference among major-league pitchers in their ability to prevent hits on balls hit in the field of play," since then McCracken and others have refined his initial research, and concluded that there really is a difference, small but significant. And that's really all you need to know.

Unless you're a nerd (and by the way, I can use that n-word because I am one; we just don't like it when non-n's use it). In which case you'll want to read Keith Isley's different look at BABiP, in which he combines statistics and video analysis (which all the kids are doing these days) of Barry Zito and Zack Greinke. Skipping nearly to the bottom ...

Chalking up BABIP as merely the result of chance outcomes does disservice to pitchers' skill at preventing solid contact, which is the essence of pitching. Tossing a coin is chance, not skill, because you can't control the result by how you flip the coin. Pitchers demonstrate skill in their control over the hardness of hitter contact, which indirectly but positively affects outcomes on in-park batted balls.

Johan Santana's career BABiP is .280; Carlos Silva's is .313.

Flipping coins, indeed.
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Oh, wow, the Yanks are on. I turned on YES so I could watch more, "THEY STINK!" but it turns out that Melky got a hit.

At the top spot?!? WOW

Time to read nerd article!!!
 
If Giambi's going to be out for an extended period of time, then by all means he should tell Selig to go **** himself.

Though the suspension will have to be served upon his return, I don't think it would matter nearly as much as if he could come back this year and make an impact.

my god the yankees are just ****ing on fire right now.
 
The batting helmet RHP Hong-Chih Kuo wore when he hit the Dodgers' third home run on as many pitches against John Maine of the New York Mets on Tuesday night was sent to the Hall of Fame. It was the seventh time in history that a pitcher was a part of a trio of consecutive home runs, and only the second time since 1963. Kuo pitched for the Dodgers' Triple-A Las Vegas club last season and hit the team's only grand slam. ... C Russell Martin's next stolen base will tie the Los Angeles Dodgers single-season record for catchers, set by Johnny Roseboro with 12 in 1962.
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Nice! Also Chin-hui Tsao's single before he got injured was the 1st hit by a Tawain born player and Kuo's is the 1st HR by a Taiwan born player.
 
rc213 said:
Dodgers name Bill Mueller interim hitting coach after firing Hall of Famer Eddie Murray.
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Another SPECTACULAR leadership decision by the Doyers. Do they expect the assisted-living bound guys on that roster to be smashing homeruns? Juan Pierre? Furcal?
 
Man, I can't believe someone hired Eddie Murray. We ran him out of Cleveland because he was getting into altercations with the players. :lol
 
Karakand said:
Another SPECTACULAR leadership decision by the Doyers. Do they expect the assisted-living bound guys on that roster to be smashing homeruns? Juan Pierre? Furcal?
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For guys like Ethier, Betemit, Loney, Kemp and Martin it would be nice. Furcal is capable of hitting 10-15 bombs a year but this year has 0 because his ankle isn't 100% and it bothers him on his swing. He can't follow through so you see a lot of warning track flyballs from him. But I think they would settle for consistent hitting of any type at this point from the whole team.

ToxicAdam said:
Man, I can't believe someone hired Eddie Murray. We ran him out of Cleveland because he was getting into altercations with the players. :lol
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This too, He has never been a player's coach and is known to be a hothead.
 
Eminem said:
Mets fans, Floyd can't field at all, which is why he is a part time player. There is a reason he's mainly just pinch hitting while JACQUE JONES starts everyday.
I know his personal problems are a part of that, but seriously, he is not a productive everyday player. As a 4th outfielder he's perfect, though.

Floyd is not the answer for a struggling Mets team.
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He may not be the answer but he's nowhere near the butcher you describe him as. Simply put on defense, Floyd > Alou. Floyd gets much better jumps on the ball, has better accuracy on his throws and his top speed is better than Alou's, not to mention he isn't afraid to sacrifice his body. Maybe in Chicago he's a 4th outfielder, but in NY the guy always came to play. It's about comfort level, which I don't think he's found on the Cubs.

Hey, if the Cubs are interested Moises Alou/Scott Schoeneweis for Cliff Floyd/Willy Ohman straight up.
 
distantmantra said:
At least it wasn't Weaver's fault, for once. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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Yeah I'm not sure what the hell is wrong with that guy. When he was with L.A he was the same way, He would look good then all of a sudden something seems to get into him and he can't get an out to save his life. Too bad cause he can be real good when he is on his game.

Little indicated that Murray did not take the news well. Murray, as has been his custom, was not available to the media.

"His reaction was the normal reaction you would expect after hearing what we had just told him," said Little.
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I am expecting to see Little with a nice shiner tomorrow for the start of the Anaheim series.
 
I think Johann Santana is the "hardest luck" starting pitcher this year. The majority of his losses have been due to his lack of run support. He could easily have 10 wins right now if his offense would have come through.
 
F___, Borowski is on the verge of blowing ANOTHER save.

At least Wickman used to wait until 2 outs before he put on two runners.


edit: Borowski gets number 19. On pace to become the worst reliever ever to get 45 saves.
 
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