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Official 2007 MLB Thread - The quest for another .500 champion

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Yankees are doing a good job beating teams they should ... but the real test comes in August, when they have to face the Tigers 8 times, Angels 3 times, Indians 3 times and the Red Sox 3 times.

That's 17 games against the best teams in the MLB, all within a 21 day period. The other 3 games are against the O's .. who are currently 4-2 against the Yanks this year and have two terrific pitchers (Bedard, Guthrie) that can shut you down.

Time will tell.
 
The Frankman said:
For the Houston fans, does this mean Mark Loretta is the starting 2nd basemen next year? Because if not I'm sure the Mets may be interested in him and possibly Lidge also.
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If the Astros are smart, they'll give up on this year and trade some of their good, non-future players. Mark Loretta, possibly Mike Lamb, preferably Morgan Ensberg and Jason Lane.

Purpura is going to be an idiot and not want to trade them away. At this point, as long as we can get SOMETHING for some of these players, so we can hope to contend in 2008. It's starting to seem like we really got fleeced in the Jennings for Taveras/Hirsh/Buchholz deal, not so much that the other 3 did so well (although Taveras is having a nice season), but that Jennings hasn't done a goddamn thing.





:lol @ Willie Harris btw. RUN RUN RUN RUN DI...ohshi there's Andruw *stop*
*ball falls right in front of him*

:lol:lol:lol @ Bonds diving catch. Webgem total
 
Yesterday's night White Sox game was pretty much the best game of the season.

I really hope Thome gets to 500 at home, though I'm pretty sure he'll get cheered anywhere except Cleveland
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super funk said:
My point is that since they came back from the break, they havent played a decent team. But like you said, thems the breaks.
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Hey, the Yanks played mostly killers in the first half of the season though, so it balances out. Besides that, the teams that are ahead of them aren't exactly playing aces themselves now, either (sorry Eminem :lol).


Anyway, thoughts/comments/opinions on possible JOBA CHAMBERLAIN? :o
 
Joe said:
4 back in the L column for the wildcard. this season's just gettin started boys :D
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You're due for another skid so Yankee fans can start doomsaying again.

FIRE TORRE
CALL UP UNPROVEN AA PITCHER
TRADE FOR OVERRATED VETERAN
DL JOHNNY DAMON
 
captmcblack said:
Hey, the Yanks played mostly killers in the first half of the season though, so it balances out. Besides that, the teams that are ahead of them aren't exactly playing aces themselves now, either (sorry Eminem :lol).


Anyway, thoughts/comments/opinions on possible JOBA CHAMBERLAIN? :o
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Joba isn't ready yet. I'm really not sure what to think of him either, since it's hard to tell if he's just another hyped Yankees prospect or not. He definitely has plus-plus pitches according to scouts though, so who knows.

And hey, don't rip on the White Sox. Our starters are really really good, so if they go 8 innings(or pitch a CG, obviously) and it goes to Jenks, you're ****ed.
 
Just my honest opinion, but I think Tex's best days are behind him. I know he's young still, but I do think he's an overvalued player.
 
The Frankman said:
THE YANKEES ARE DONE. FINISHED. FINITO. And I don't mean the Division, we all know that's gone. They will be playing golf starting October 3rd. Yankees + 2007 Playoffs = DOES NOT COMPUTE.
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Quote so it isn't edited!

EDIT: Wellington, Frank is going to post the terms of a bet that was agreed on w/jman here. If the bet he tries to create doesn't involve this statement, can you ban him for pussying out?
 
Holy shit I just saw this. Considering I just AIMed you trying to get you in this bet (which AGAIN you were too scared to enter) and telling you I was posting terms you really are a backstabber, aren't you? I had to interrupt my post for THIS crap?
 
Miguel said:
If the Astros are smart, they'll give up on this year and trade some of their good, non-future players. Mark Loretta, possibly Mike Lamb, preferably Morgan Ensberg and Jason Lane.

Purpura is going to be an idiot and not want to trade them away. At this point, as long as we can get SOMETHING for some of these players, so we can hope to contend in 2008. It's starting to seem like we really got fleeced in the Jennings for Taveras/Hirsh/Buchholz deal, not so much that the other 3 did so well (although Taveras is having a nice season), but that Jennings hasn't done a goddamn thing.
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I agree with everything you said Mig,but I'd also like to get rid of Purpura.

Awful Gm :(

awesome card George1234.
 
God, you back out of yet ANOTHER bet and call me that. Makes sense.

anyway the summary:
original quote to a Freest Rolexes post:

The Frankman said:
That's what makes the obvious impending karmic retribution so sweet. I'm calling it right now. Yankees will not win the division, and I'm not sold on them winning the Wild Card either. I need to re-evaluate the teams involved at the end of this month.
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mcblack bitches, jman2050 disagrees.
captmcblack said:
Put up or shut up.

Will they make the playoffs, or won't they?
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CajoleJuice attempts mediation, mcblack instigates:
CajoleJuice said:
He said he was sure they wouldn't win the division, but he wasn't sure about the wild card.
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captmcblack said:
He totally pulled an ESPN though, where you make an judgement, but leave the door open to not stand by it. He's made his judgement, and if on June 30th the Yankees are 20 games out, he'll get to say "I was right"...whereas, if they're 3 games out then, he gets to say "but I said I'd reevaluate, so I wasn't wrong!".

Lame.

Put up or shut up.
I want his account on the line!
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and finally on July 6, the bomb:
The Frankman said:
Drama Queen? Should I pull up every quote from Yankee Nation over the past month and a half? You want drama queen? I'll give you drama queen. I told Captmcblack this last week and I'm telling you right now. THE YANKEES ARE DONE. FINISHED. FINITO. And I don't mean the Division, we all know that's gone. They will be playing golf starting October 3rd. Yankees + 2007 Playoffs = DOES NOT COMPUTE.

It's funny how much grief he gave me, telling me to put my account on the line (which I was willing to), yet when I wanted him to put an avi bet (length undetermined) he chickened out. Who among you in Yankee Nation wants to negotiate this? Are you brave enough to take the challenge?
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One challenger arose from the muck.
jman2050 said:
The Yankees will make the playoffs. You decide the terms.
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Don King Jr. hypes the matchup (but doesn't join the bet). Others like Y2Kev scream from sidelines:
captmcblack said:
There it is.
I want to quote this so Frank sees it.
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That is the story, to clear the foul air of Yankee lies. Terms in the next post.
 
I don't think he should be perma'd or anything if he loses the bet (nor should his opponent), but that's mostly because he'll probably invoke Konex again during the NFL season and get banned by Wellington if the Giants fall apart after another hot streak.
 
Okay, I had to talk to some mods to ok this but about two and a half weeks ago I PM'ed Wellington with this (need confirmation? Ask Welli):

The Frankman on July 9th said:
Hello. I'm setting up a bet on the OT MLB thread between jman, captmcblack (maybe), and me regarding the Yankees chance of making the playoffs. Basically before I set it up I need to set up terms for them when they lose.

Can a person be restricted from posting on a part of the forum a.k.a they can post in gaming but not OT?
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He replied yes. Since the Yanks were like 11 out I was ready to roll with the bet. However forum crap (E3) and me being in NY for awhile without Net access killed the chance of me posting the bet.

Basically, it's this. I say Yankees are not making the playoffs in 2007. For those who cannot comprehend English like captmcblack, that's "Do not win division or a WildCard". Will they compete? Yes? Will they come close? Oh definitely. Will they make the playoffs? Nope IMHO. jman2050 disagrees, so these were the terms I was planning:

Winner: Gets nothing.
Loser: Cannot post on the OT Forum until Baseball's Opening Day 2008. They are free to post on Gaming if they wish.

Now back then Yankees were slumping and dead, whereas now they on fire. I realize the terms I planned to set then put me at a grave disadvantage now. But hey, it's not like agreeing then suddenly meant cosmic changes for the universe. Likewise, the terms are much more favorable for you to accept now than before, jman. However if you have something else in mind I'm willing to listen. Also, this is something any member of YankNation can get in on as long as the primary bettors (jman and I) come to terms.

So jman2050, ball's in your court.
 
Eminem said:
Just my honest opinion, but I think Tex's best days are behind him. I know he's young still, but I do think he's an overvalued player.
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His OPS+ is up this year, but I agree. Really strange decline in some power categories over the last two or three years.

Also I don't like what I am hearing about JOBA the Hutt. Why rush him? He's going to get rocked in the majors.
 
The Frankman said:
Okay, I had to talk to some mods to ok this but about two and a half weeks ago I PM'ed Wellington with this (need confirmation? Ask Welli):


He replied yes. Since the Yanks were like 11 out I was ready to roll with the bet. However forum crap (E3) and me being in NY for awhile without Net access killed the chance of me posting the bet.

Basically, it's this. I say Yankees are not making the playoffs in 2007. For those who cannot comprehend English like captmcblack, that's "Do not win division or a WildCard". Will they compete? Yes? Will they come close? Oh definitely. Will they make the playoffs? Nope IMHO. jman2050 disagrees, so these were the terms I was planning:

Winner: Gets nothing.
Loser: Cannot post on the OT Forum until Baseball's Opening Day 2008. They are free to post on Gaming if they wish.

Now back then Yankees were slumping and dead, whereas now they on fire. I realize the terms I planned to set then put me at a grave disadvantage now. But hey, it's not like agreeing then suddenly meant cosmic changes for the universe. Likewise, the terms are much more favorable for you to accept now than before, jman. However if you have something else in mind I'm willing to listen. Also, this is something any member of YankNation can get in on as long as the primary bettors (jman and I) come to terms.
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why do you constantly flood the OT with your inane ramblings.

Seriously, STOP IT.

Edit:

I think Tex will still have an impact this year. Right now being in Texas doesn't make you want to work for it. But I think we have to really see...I think he hit the majority of his homers in the second half last year.
 
It's his own fault. Check the records; he's been posting tomfoolery since he joined here :lol

That said, he proposed a bet after making his statements re: the Yankees, so I wanted to make sure the job was finished.
 
apparently scouts are higher on joba then they are on phil hughes but if joba pitches for the yankees this year it'll be late in the year and out of the bullpen. ian kennedy was also promoted to AAA along with chamberlain yesterday. clippard was demoted to AA.

phil hughes went 7ip, 2h, 0r, 6k, 0bb yesterday and got out of a bases loaded jam with 0 outs. probably will be back in the rotation mid next week.
 
Phil Franchise will take Igawa's spot. OH YEAH.

Joba will replace Proctor or Farnsworth. I am hoping it's the latter. I am not sure I want him rushed up to the bigs, but if we can do for him what was done with Johan Santana or Billingsley, we'll be okay.

We also need to BRING BACK EDWAR RAMIREZ. He can't get sharp if we don't use him. The kid throws 96 with location, and with a Pedro-esque changeup to follow it. He will be awesome if used.
 
went to today's game.. SWEET :D Now if we could only win on the road.. facing Chicago,Tampa, and then Texas and the Yanks at home. It is freaking time to win some games! Go Towers!
 
The Frankman said:
Okay, I had to talk to some mods to ok this but about two and a half weeks ago I PM'ed Wellington with this (need confirmation? Ask Welli):


He replied yes. Since the Yanks were like 11 out I was ready to roll with the bet. However forum crap (E3) and me being in NY for awhile without Net access killed the chance of me posting the bet.

Basically, it's this. I say Yankees are not making the playoffs in 2007. For those who cannot comprehend English like captmcblack, that's "Do not win division or a WildCard". Will they compete? Yes? Will they come close? Oh definitely. Will they make the playoffs? Nope IMHO. jman2050 disagrees, so these were the terms I was planning:

Winner: Gets nothing.
Loser: Cannot post on the OT Forum until Baseball's Opening Day 2008. They are free to post on Gaming if they wish.

Now back then Yankees were slumping and dead, whereas now they on fire. I realize the terms I planned to set then put me at a grave disadvantage now. But hey, it's not like agreeing then suddenly meant cosmic changes for the universe. Likewise, the terms are much more favorable for you to accept now than before, jman. However if you have something else in mind I'm willing to listen. Also, this is something any member of YankNation can get in on as long as the primary bettors (jman and I) come to terms.

So jman2050, ball's in your court.
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So it is said, and so it will be done. Ball is in your court, jman.

Though, I will say that a 7 month bannination from OT may be a bit much. How about the turn of the new year? It's up to you guys.
 
jman needs to take one for the team :lol

But meh I know how bad it is not being able to post on the mlb thread for an extended period of time. Then again, that ban would take place during the offseason. So it is bearable.

Oh an I'm Never getting banned during baseball season ever again. ugh.
 
Wellington said:
So it is said, and so it will be done. Ball is in your court, jman.
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hahahaha Wellington you are awesome


edit: surprised they got rid of Linebrink

Brewers acquired RHP Scott Linebrink from the Padres for RHP Will Inman, LHP Joe Thatcher and LHP Steve Garrison.
It seems like a very high price to pay to get a setup man for 9 1/2 weeks. However, don't think for a second that both sides weren't also factoring in just how much the draft picks that Linebrink will bring at the end of the season are worth. Linebrink has struggled of late, and now that he's out of Petco, his tendency to give up homers will become a bigger problem. Still, he's durable and he'll induce fewer heart attacks than Derrick Turbnow. Besides improving the bullpen, this frees up Turnbow in case the Brewers want to use him to acquire a hitter (Jermaine Dye?).
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FIVE …

• Scouts in Arizona on Monday night were a little more enthusiastic about Dontrelle Willis, who nevertheless hasn't won a game since late May and has not made a quality start in July. While the organization is publicly saying Willis is not available, teams interested in Willis – New York Yankees, Los Angeles Dodgers, Seattle Mariners, Arizona Diamondbacks and Cleveland Indians, to name a few – aren't getting the same message from GM Larry Beinfest, and expect talks to open by the deadline.

• The Texas Rangers do not believe they must trade first baseman Mark Teixeira and have not backed off their asking prices, according to baseball people familiar with the organization's rebuild strategy. The Rangers need to do something with their pitching staff and figure Teixeira ought to buy them some of that, but they'll hold onto him if there's no long-term value in it. Rangers GM Jon Daniels had a bad experience trading Chris Young and Adrian Gonzalez away and likely won't make the same mistake.

• Two of the Dodgers' top scouts – Mark Weidemaier and Carl Loewenstine – have been regulars around the Kansas City Royals for a couple weeks. Their main interest is in Octavio Dotel, heightened in recent days with Takashi Saito's shoulder ailment. The Dodgers have problems in the rotation as well and are considering broadening the talks to include another pitcher, such as Zach Greinke. While the Royals clearly are in a position to trade a handful of players – Dotel, Reggie Sanders, Mark Grudzielanek, others – they also are showing signs of progress (the bullpen, the road record, the good young position players) and management wouldn't mind letting them win some games over the next couple months. Dotel, in particular, would be a big part of that. If a trade is made, expect the Royals to get Chin-Lung Hu, the Dodgers' athletic Triple-A shortstop, then divvy up shortstop and second base between Hu and Tony Pena Jr.

• Shea Hillenbrand is close to deciding between minor-league contracts from the San Diego Padres and one other National League team with a promise to be called up in about 10 days. Both contacted the Los Angeles Angels, Hillenbrand's former team, and got good recommendations from Angels manager Mike Scioscia.

• There remains a possibility outfielder Bobby Kielty, designated for assignment by Oakland, ends up in Boston. The Red Sox won't dismiss it, though they are believed to be looking harder at corner infielders (Mike Lowell is a free agent after the season), bullpen help and a starting pitcher. Allard Baird, one of Theo Epstein's top lieutenants, spent some time recently watching the Triple-A teams for the Dodgers (while Andy LaRoche was going off) and Seattle Mariners. The Red Sox could also join the Angels and Atlanta Braves hunting Teixeira.

… AND FLY .

The Cleveland Indians haven't given up trying to add pitching, whether at the back end of the bullpen or the back end of the rotation, especially given poor recent runs by Jake Westbrook and Cliff Lee. They also wouldn't mind finding a veteran outfielder – say, Kenny Lofton – for more depth there.
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Two of the Dodgers' top scouts – Mark Weidemaier and Carl Loewenstine – have been regulars around the Kansas City Royals for a couple weeks. Their main interest is in Octavio Dotel, heightened in recent days with Takashi Saito's shoulder ailment. The Dodgers have problems in the rotation as well and are considering broadening the talks to include another pitcher, such as Zach Greinke. While the Royals clearly are in a position to trade a handful of players – Dotel, Reggie Sanders, Mark Grudzielanek, others – they also are showing signs of progress (the bullpen, the road record, the good young position players) and management wouldn't mind letting them win some games over the next couple months. Dotel, in particular, would be a big part of that. If a trade is made, expect the Royals to get Chin-Lung Hu, the Dodgers' athletic Triple-A shortstop, then divvy up shortstop and second base between Hu and Tony Pena Jr.
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Why would the Dodgers be asking for 2 relievers when they need 1 and a starter. Since the Dodgers have said no one the major league roster is being traded I guess it will Chin-Lung Hu or Tony Abreu. =C.
 
Why the **** is Martin in the starting line-up again? Dodgers need him to be fresh for the 4 game set in Colorado. YOU SUCK LITTLEMIND!
 
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