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Official 2007 NBA Playoffs Thread - In Memory of Agent Zero

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bishoptl said:
That Celtic clip is GOLDEN. I can go to sleep feeling much better about myself now. :D

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DMczaf said:
Yao showed more moves in that clip than he did in the ENTIRE ****ING SERIES :lol

**** you Ewing!

The Shanghai Shake! The face up jumper! Its all coming back!

Blame Gundy too,hobbit wanted a Chinese Shaq.
 
DMczaf said:
The Shanghai Shake! The face up jumper! Its all coming back!

:lol :lol :lol

I would love to see Yao get to use his jumper more..

His countryman Yi has a sick fade away.. I think he is going to be a good player in the NBA
 
Scotty The Mastermind at Blazersedge.com suggested this:

IF we had Roy/Durant/LMA/ and NOAH then I would be totally fine with that.

However, if we have the balls to move for Noah, why couldn't we also imagine Roy/Jeff Green/LMA and Greg Oden. Because if you are suggesting drafting Durant still calls for the need to grab a high-caliber prospect to further our front court like Joakim Noah would, we might as well suggest the move to grab a small forward prospect like Jeff Green who will likely still be available at 12, where we could make the move with Philly to grab him.

I know I am resetting a transaction that I posted before, but here goes:

We move J.Jack and Z.Randolph to Philly. They have a huge need for PF and at 12 all the elite PF candidates are off the board. What can we get in return? We get PG Andre Miller (a fill in player Kevin Ollie to make the $$$ work with the CBA) and we get Philly's 2007 pick 12 and pick 21 in the first round, maybe even thier a.)30th pick in the first round b.) 2007 R2-pick 8 or c.) some future. With 12 we grab Jeff Green and at 21 we have great options in this deep draft. Obviously if we get TOO MANY 1sts we won't have room on our roster for guaranteed contracts, so getting futures wouldn't be too bad an option.

Try this on for size:
PG Andre Miller/Sergio Rodriguez/Dickau/K.Ollie
SG Brandon Roy/Fred Jones
SF Jeff Green/Martell Webster/Ime Udoka/Darius
PF LaMarcus Aldridge/Travis Outlaw/Raef LaFrentz
C Greg Oden/Joel Pryzbilla

We probably can't resign Udoka under this move, as we would need the roster spot for the pick 21 from Philly (assuming we resign Outlaw). Ollie is obviously not part of the plan, and I don't know what our options are for simply cutting a guy like that. And, we still have to waste a roster spot on Darius. Hopefully we could get rid of Dickau somehow to free up another spot or to enable us to keep Ime, who I like a lot more. Anyway... food for thought, and there is going to be a buffett with this offseason.
 
DMczaf said:
Why do you have to use such foul language in this thread?

because I'm a mushroom-cloud-layin' mother****er, mother****er!
 
reilo said:
Scotty The Mastermind at Blazersedge.com suggested this:

so Philly is going to sell the farm for Zach?? :lol :lol :lol :lol
 
reilo said:
They did trade for Chris Webber, remember?!

but AI is no longer there.. and his "window" is no longer closing.. and Zach isn't Cwebb (Cwebb wasn't even Cwebb by the time they traded for him)
 
Blackace said:
but AI is no longer there.. and his "window" is no longer closing.. and Zach isn't Cwebb (Cwebb wasn't even Cwebb by the time they traded for him)

AI is still in Philly - Andre Iguadola at least. Besides, you forget who is managing that team. That trade scenario is not out of the realm of possibility. Portland did manage to pull off that Telfair trade last year, too.

Jason Quick (the best beat writer in the industry, no joke) through in the clutch:

At any rate, the Oden/Durant debate will be fun.

Personally, I have always felt Pritchard is a Durant guy. He's never said it directly, but in passing conversations throughout the year, I got that drift. Pritchard said he has watched both Oden and Durant "multiple times" this season in person.

At the same time, Pritchard puts a lot of stock in his upbringing in the Spurs organization, and likes to reference how San Antonio was built. He noted that the possibility of an Oden/Aldridge front line reminded him of a famously successful duo in San Antonio called Duncan and Robinson.

There seems to be no doubt among scouts that Durant is more NBA-ready, meaning he will have a greater impact immediately. One Western Conference executive tonight told me that Durant will without a doubt be the Rookie of the Year next season.

Pritchard responded to that by saying "I'm not drafting for the Rookie of the Year, I'm drafting for championships."

So, as Pritchard said later, "Let the chess match begin".

Oden? Durant? Who knows?

http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2007/05/pritchard_i_wont_trade_the_pic.html
 
reilo said:
AI is still in Philly - Andre Iguadola at least. Besides, you forget who is managing that team. That trade scenario is not out of the realm of possibility. Portland did manage to pull off that Telfair trade last year, too.

that trade is crazy... not only do they give up two points but their draft pick as well.. philly isn't even that stupid..
 
Blackace said:
that trade is crazy... not only do they give up two points but their draft pick as well.. philly isn't even that stupid..

I'm just pipe dreaming here :lol
 
GitarooMan said:
Just saw Ainge say on ESPN and I quote "I think we're a playoff team right now." :lol :lol

they are where this man comes from

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Truelize said:
I wonder how much time the Spurs spend in practice just practicing flopping. Seriously. Ginoboli is the "flop king" of the league (he's almost as good as Divac was). Bowen has some great flopping form and now big dumb looking Oberto is a flopping bitch too.

Did you guys see him fly back when he was guarding Matt Harpring? It was like he was hit by a truck. And then the next freakin play Gino flops while moving sideways - truly great form - and gets the offensive foul against AK47.

Duncan, Parker, Barry and Finley never pull that crap. But the whole rest of the team is a bunch of pancakes.
Raja flops more than Ginobli. At least Manu has the skills to go to the hoop (where he often takes a real beating). Raja is just a thug who is lucky to play with Steve Nash.

And Bowen is a dirty mother****er, but the guy is just so skilled at being dirty that I have an underlying appreciation for his dark arts. Probably the best dirty player of all time. He does so much that is dirty and yet he is so in control of his body and so mentally aware that he always makes it look like it could have been an accident. That karate kick of Bowen's was totally intentional, but even on the replay you think it might have been an accident. With other dirty players like Lambeer, Jordan, and the entire Riley Knicks it was obvious on replays that they were just trying to hurt someone.
 
Maybe the Celtics can salvage something out of this by going winless next season.

Not that it will get them a Top 3 pick in the lottery, of course.
 
The lottery sucks.

They should have a single game elimination tournament between the 4 worst teams and let them duke it out for the top four picks. It would be entertaining for the fans, make money for the league, and humilating for the players. No one losses in this situation (except the scrub players, but if they were really good they would not have been in this situation in the first place).

Everyone after that just gets a spot according to the record.
 
bionic77 said:
The lottery sucks.

They should have a single game elimination tournament between the 4 worst teams and let them duke it out for the top four picks. It would be entertaining for the fans, make money for the league, and humilating for the players. No one losses in this situation (except the scrub players, but if they were really good they would not have been in this situation in the first place).

Everyone after that just gets a spot according to the record.

And the lottery has demonstrated yet again that the odds just aren't good enough to make tanking your entire season really worth it and yet I highly doubt it will begin to disappear (though it will probably be a while before we see a repeat of this season's tanking.
 
LordMaji said:
Yeah, that's pretty damn awesome. :)

Hakeem tore it up.
Hakeem was coldblooded in that series. And Robinson was never the same player after that.

They have a clip of Hakeems' highlights on that page too and Hakeem had the nastiest blocks throughout his career. Him and Robinson were also two of the rare centers who could pick a guard's pocket and take the ball coast to coast. Robinson was even better at it than Hakeem.

I still maintain Hakeem is one of the most underrated players of all time. And no doubt Hakeem > Shaq. Shaq always had problems with Robinson because of David's quickness. Hakeem, not so much (as evidenced by the video). I will say in Robinson's defense though that he was probably one of the nicest people to ever play the game. And he was also the most ripped.
 
Um, what? Washington Post is reporting that Roy Hibbert and Jeff Green are both withdrawing their names from the NBA draft and returning to Georgetown......
 
Blackace said:
There will be NBA basketball in Seattle!!

We'll see--you'd better believe that Durant is damn marketable in Oklahoma/Texas. Unless this development creates a huge groundswell in Seattle, I think it makes a move to OKC more likely. Bennett was concerned about making his money back in Oklahoma, but Durant increases the Sonics' value instantly.
 
Bill Simmons actually flew to Boston to watch the lottery last night. That's gotta be the most awkward flight back to LA ever.:lol :lol
 
Tamanon said:
Bill Simmons actually flew to Boston to watch the lottery last night. That's gotta be the most awkward flight back to LA ever.:lol :lol

Simmons has single-handedly elevated this to BEST. DRAFT. EVER. status. I know I can't freaking wait for his next column, which should be out once he gets back from rehab.
 
Truelize said:
I wonder how much time the Spurs spend in practice just practicing flopping. Seriously. Ginoboli is the "flop king" of the league (he's almost as good as Divac was). Bowen has some great flopping form and now big dumb looking Oberto is a flopping bitch too.

Did you guys see him fly back when he was guarding Matt Harpring? It was like he was hit by a truck. And then the next freakin play Gino flops while moving sideways - truly great form - and gets the offensive foul against AK47.


Duncan, Parker, Barry and Finley never pull that crap. But the whole rest of the team is a bunch of pancakes.

AMEN! Some of that flopping was embarrassing. It didn't help that Bennett F'n Salvatore was a ref last night. He's ALWAYS suckered into making the stupid calls.

We got outplayed big time last night, that's why we lost. It's probably why we'll probably lose in 6. Anyway, I'm excited for game 3, we should be able to win that one. Scheduling it for Saturday is beyond retarded, however, we should be playing tomorrow. Ridiculous scheduling FTL.

Bowen is all about 3 things:
-Arm slapping
-Shooting threes from the corner
-Whining about obvious fouls that he commits

I don't know that he does anything else.

EDIT: Apparently he kicks a pretty mean face too.
 
*sigh*

The only obvious flop from the Spurs yesterday was from Oberto against Harpring. Also, it's people like you that make me so giddy whenever Bruce starts hitting all those 3-pointers to bury the other team.

Matrix said:
BEST.CENTER.EVER.

DRob is one of my favorite of all time, but Hakeem was a phenomenon. He dominated every great center of his era on both sides of the court and his arsenal of moves is something I've never seen before. I was just a kid at the time, but man was it painful to see David get destroyed with such a variety of fantastic plays and look so hopeless. He still had a great series stat-wise, but it was impossible to at least slow down The Dream.
 
BatiGOOOOOOL said:
*sigh*

The only obvious flop from the Spurs yesterday was from Oberto against Harpring.
Also, it's people like you that make me so giddy whenever Bruce starts hitting all those 3-pointers to bury the other team.

You've earned a "pffft" from me.

Hakeem was unstoppable. That guy is easily the best center that the NBA has ever seen. I think if we could have seen Arvydas Sabonis in his prime, however, there could be some room for debate. By the time he got to the NBA, his knees were already shot.
 
bionic77 said:
Raja flops more than Ginobli. At least Manu has the skills to go to the hoop (where he often takes a real beating). Raja is just a thug who is lucky to play with Steve Nash.

And Bowen is a dirty mother****er, but the guy is just so skilled at being dirty that I have an underlying appreciation for his dark arts. Probably the best dirty player of all time. He does so much that is dirty and yet he is so in control of his body and so mentally aware that he always makes it look like it could have been an accident. That karate kick of Bowen's was totally intentional, but even on the replay you think it might have been an accident. With other dirty players like Lambeer, Jordan, and the entire Riley Knicks it was obvious on replays that they were just trying to hurt someone.

NO ONE flops more than Gino. Or at least is as memorable. Maybe that's it. When either Bowen or Raja flop it at least looks somewhat legit. Gino and Oberto are from the vagina school of flopping. They go all noodle arm like they had just been shot. It's just sad that they don't have enough pride to not puss out like that.
And we aren't in here talking about Raja's skill range. Any educated basketball fan can see that Raja is an incredibly limited offensive player and that his success is 100% associated with the system he plays in. If the Suns would have been able to sign Finley and he had not gone to the Spurs then they would have had a real starting two guard.
 
BatiGOOOOOOL said:
*sigh*

The only obvious flop from the Spurs yesterday was from Oberto against Harpring. Also, it's people like you that make me so giddy whenever Bruce starts hitting all those 3-pointers to bury the other team.

Oberto is pretty bad. I'd actually say in terms of flops per minute he's probably the worst on the team.
 
Truelize said:
NO ONE flops more than Gino. Or at least is as memorable. Maybe that's it. When either Bowen or Raja flop it at least looks somewhat legit. Gino and Oberto are from the vagina school of flopping. They go all noodle arm like they had just been shot. It's just sad that they don't have enough pride to not puss out like that.
And we aren't in here talking about Raja's skill range. Any educated basketball fan can see that Raja is an incredibly limited offensive player and that his success is 100% associated with the system he plays in. If the Suns would have been able to sign Finley and he had not gone to the Spurs then they would have had a real starting two guard.

I don't know, Raja was pretty good in Utah, and that was totally different system. I think he's just a hard-working player that gets it done on effort rather than raw skill.
 
Truelize said:
NO ONE flops more than Gino. Or at least is as memorable. Maybe that's it. When either Bowen or Raja flop it at least looks somewhat legit. Gino and Oberto are from the vagina school of flopping. They go all noodle arm like they had just been shot. It's just sad that they don't have enough pride to not puss out like that.
And we aren't in here talking about Raja's skill range. Any educated basketball fan can see that Raja is an incredibly limited offensive player and that his success is 100% associated with the system he plays in. If the Suns would have been able to sign Finley and he had not gone to the Spurs then they would have had a real starting two guard.
I brought up Raja's skill because at least Manu can go strong to the basket and finish. And I still think Manu is not the worst flopper. A lot of the time when he is "flopping" he is also taking some serious hits on the way to the basket. Manu plays a pretty brutal style of basketball and a result he won't be in the league for much longer unless he starts to play a little softer like the Tony Pakers of the world. So while Manu does do soccer style pussy-flops, I give him some credit because at least he has some skill and has shown that he is also a tough SOB.
 
bionic77 said:
And Bowen is a dirty mother****er, but the guy is just so skilled at being dirty that I have an underlying appreciation for his dark arts. Probably the best dirty player of all time.
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"BULLSHIT!"
 
whytemyke said:
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"BULLSHIT!"
Lambeer may have been the dirtiest. But Lambeer was not as skilled as Bowen, he was just a hired thug. On defense Bown is just a master of getting away with the tiny chippy things that can get inside of the head of lesser players.

Lambeer did have his own videogame though...
 
bionic77 said:
Lambeer was not as skilled as Bowen..

:lol

The words Bowen and skilled should never be used in the same sentence. You should also take a look at their respective career stats before you go ahead and utter something like that.
 
bionic77 said:
Lambeer may have been the dirtiest. But Lambeer was not as skilled as Bowen, he was just a hired thug. On defense Bown is just a master of getting away with the tiny chippy things that can get inside of the head of lesser players.

Lambeer did have his own videogame though...

Laimbeer was a four-time all-star. He was cheap as hell, but he was no slouch, much like Bowen. Now obviously they're different players but I grew up in Chicago and I remember a lot of Pistons fans/"old school basketball" proponents saying the same stuff about Laimbeer back then that people say about Bowen now attempting to defend him. I'm inclined to say Laimbeer had more of a temper and was more volatile, but really looking at some of the things Bowen has done even that may not be entirely accurate.
 
bionic77 said:
Lambeer may have been the dirtiest. But Lambeer was not as skilled as Bowen, he was just a hired thug. On defense Bown is just a master of getting away with the tiny chippy things that can get inside of the head of lesser players.

Lambeer did have his own videogame though...
Dude... you're so wrong about Laimbeer. He wasn't just a hired goon, he was talented as all hell, too. I mean you don't make the all-star team for nothing, ya know? The guy was a dirty bastard, no doubt, but we're talking about one of the first big men that could step behind the arc and drop 3's just as easily as he can go in the paint and muck it up. If he didn't play on a team with Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars and Dennis Rodman, then Laimbeer's defensive and offensive skills would have shown through a whole lot more. He was the perfect heel... we're talking Ray Lewis levels after he killed a guy or Eric Bischoff after he joined NWO :lol
 
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