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Yep, it begins already. J Niese "I need a ground ball for the double play? I'll throw a fastball up in the zone, and then hang a breaking ball over the middle of the plate." 1-0 Astros.
 
Another PanterLotus special:

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Lambtron said:
Man I posted that commercial like two pages ago!

It is awesome. Dave St. Peter said on Twitter that they're going to try to be selling some flannel Thome jerseys at the park. Pretty amazing.
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I haven't gotten on any ignore lists yet ;)

I would so buy a flannel Thome jersey.
 
"You see that other number, B A B I P, he's dropped that about a hundred points so you see his stuff's got to have improved."

No. No Buck. No.
 
Dodgers Settle Suit with Man Who Suffered Broken Neck During Game. When Phillies fans and Dodgers fans collide!

The Dodgers and a fan who sued the team over a broken neck suffered when drunken man fell on him from an upper deck have settled their lawsuit, an attorney for the injured man told a judge Tuesday.

The announcement came as Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Alan S. Rosenfield was scheduled to hear arguments by the Dodgers, asking that the lawsuit by Stephen Suarez be dismissed. The terms of the settlement were not disclosed.

The lawsuit, filed in September 2009, stemmed from an Oct. 12, 2008, League Championship Series game between the Dodgers and Philadelphia Phillies. Suarez and a brother were sitting in the field box section, and the allegedly drunken fan, Pete La Rosa, was above him in the loge section, the suit stated.

Suarez and his brother, Alex Suarez, alleged negligence, premises liability and negligent infliction of emotional distress. In their latest court papers, attorneys for the brothers referred to the March 31 beating of San Francisco Giants fan Bryan Stow outside Dodger Stadium and alleged security there also was deficient when their client was hurt.

They maintained the Stow incident was "further support for (Suarez's) position that the Dodgers acted negligently and breached their duty of care by failing to secure Dodger Stadium and remove the severely intoxicated La Rosa ..."

La Rosa "was severely inebriated and showed signs of intoxication throughout the game -- a result of a marijuana cigarette, 10 beers and six shots of tequila prior to and during the game," the suit stated.

A Phillies fan, La Rosa "repeatedly yelled, swore and taunted the Dodger fans in the loge box section throughout the game," the complaint states. In return, several Dodger fans taunted him, shouted obscenities and threw peanut shells at him, the suit stated.

After the game, La Rosa walked to the railing at the bottom of the loge level, then "stepped over the short railing, turned toward the loge box level, waved his baseball cap in the air, lost his balance and fell ... to the field box level," according to the suit.

La Rosa struck Stephen Suarez, breaking his fourth and sixth vertebrae, the suit stated. His brother suffered emotional distress from witnessing his brother being hurt, according to the complaint. The three were among the 56,800 fans present.

Attorneys for the siblings maintained security personnel at Dodger Stadium should have prevented La Rosa from climbing over the railing and ejected him. They say he was a danger to himself and other fans. However, in their court papers attorneys for the Dodgers said the mishap was unforeseeable and like nothing that had happened there previously.

Although witnesses interviewed by team officials agreed La Rosa was drunk and cheering loudly, they considered his actions "innocent, good- natured, fun, entertaining and normal" for a playoff game at Dodger Stadium, the Dodgers' court papers stated.

Thus, the Suarez brothers' attorneys are wrong to maintain Dodger security officials had an obligation to throw La Rosa out of the stadium, according to the team's court papers.

In a sworn declaration submitted on behalf of the Dodgers, engineer Charles E. Turnbow stated that the rail La Rosa stepped over meets building code standards set by the city of Los Angeles.

The Dodgers won the game, 7-2, but lost the series to the Phillies, four games to one.
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LJ11 said:
That's 3 so far, and i'ts only April.
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Please, I'm tired of this. How many has it robbed from opposing hitters? Because other teams don't seem to have too much trouble hitting hr's at Citi.
 
nocode said:
Please, I'm tired of this. How many has it robbed from opposing hitters? Because other teams don't seem to have too much trouble hitting hr's at Citi.
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Dude hit a 410 foot out. This park is dogshit, one of the worst park factors for right handed batters. Stop making excuses! I'm tired of seeing balls die.
 
LJ11 said:
Dude hit a 410 foot out. This park is dogshit, one of the worst park factors for right handed batters. Stop making excuses! I'm tired of seeing balls die.
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How about some facts than?

How about this oldie but a goodie?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/319546-citi-field-is-not-where-hr-go-to-die

Too old a study you say?

9th easiest park to hit HR so far in 2011.

http://mets360.com/?p=6489

Ball got knocked down b/c of the rain, and Wright didn't get all of it.

Edit: Fine, I'll edit out my name calling too, although I was only kidding so I should probably just leave it. haha
 
LJ11 said:
Dude hit a 410 foot out. This park is dogshit, one of the worst park factors for right handed batters. Stop making excuses! I'm tired of seeing balls die.
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nocode said:
Ball got knocked down b/c of the rain, and Wright didn't get all of it.
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The majority of Wright's homers came from right center. When the Mets moved from Shea to Citi's ridiculous 415' at right center (compared to Shea's 396'), Wright's offensive numbers suffered greatly because of it. The ball that Wright hit tonight would have been out at Shea.
 
richiek said:
The majority of Wright's homers came from right center. When the Mets moved from Shea to Citi's ridiculous 415' at right center (compared to Shea's 396'), Wright's offensive numbers suffered greatly because of it. The ball that Wright hit tonight would have been out at Shea.
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I think you meant to quote me, but still, none of this explains why other teams have no trouble hitting HR's at Citi.

Wright with the dive to break Lee's elbow! Stay away from David's corner motherfucker.
 
nocode said:
How about some facts than?

How about this oldie but a goodie?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/319546-citi-field-is-not-where-hr-go-to-die

Too old a study you say?

9th easiest park to hit HR so far in 2011.

http://mets360.com/?p=6489

Ball got knocked down b/c of the rain, and Wright didn't get all of it.

Edit: Fine, I'll edit out my name calling too, although I was only kidding so I should probably just leave it. haha
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All I know is that Citi has a park factor of 64 for righties, you're data is '09 only.

2011 is 3 weeks old, who gives a shit. Especially with our pitching. Easier to hit HRs against one of the worst stafsf in baseball.

That ball traveled around 410 feet, why is a 415 gap to RCF necessary?

Edit: We don't hit as many HRs because we lack power, period. But you can't deny it's amplified by these dimensions. It's frustrating seeing HRs stay in the park.
 
LJ11 said:
All I know is that Citi has a park factor of 64 for righties, you're data is '09 only.

2011 is 3 weeks old, who gives a shit.

That ball traveled around 410 feet, why is a 415 gap to RCF necessary?

Edit: We don't hit as many HRs because we lack power, period. But you can't deny it's amplified by these dimensions. It's frustrating seeing HRs stay in the park.
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Yeah, couldn't find any other data for last year. But really, I have '09 and '11 data, and you have no data for '10, so why would we assume that the data we don't have proves your point?

You can't just say that those hits would be HRs in other parks either though. You don't pitch or hit the same way in every park.
 
nocode said:
I think you meant to quote me, but still, none of this explains why other teams have no trouble hitting HR's at Citi.
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I'm not necessarily disputing that other teams have no trouble hitter homers here. What I am saying is that the Wilpons are fucking idiots for building a ballpark that works against the strengths of their best offensive player.
 
nocode said:
Yeah, couldn't find any other data for last year. But really, I have '09 and '11 data, and you have no data for '10, so why would we assume that the data we don't have proves your point?

You can't just say that those hits would be HRs in other parks either though. You don't pitch or hit the same way in every park.
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Yet the author of the article you posted felt that Jason Bay would have zero problems hitting for power in Citi Field because he's a great pull hitter. How'd that work out? Guess he can't pull the ball like he did in Fenway!

What 11 data? A couple of weeks worth of games now constitutes data? We have a terrible pitching staff, terrible pitchers give up long HRs.

All I'm saying, is that those balls are most likely gone in other stadiums. Yeah, they may have pitched him differently, but that's not my concern. 380-410 fly balls are. Dimensions are stupid, if you like them that's fine. I don't, and I'm not making excuses for the lack of power, we don't have any.
 
richiek said:
I'm not necessarily disputing that other teams have no trouble hitter homers here. What I am saying is that the Wilpons are fucking idiots for building a ballpark that works against the strengths of their best offensive player.
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Well, nobody is going to argue that the Wilpons might not be the greatest decision makers, but in 2008, Wright had 25 pull HRs compared to 8 opposite field. What is stopping him from driving the ball to the opposite field at Citi and legging out extra base hits?

I'm not going to deny that Citi is a huge field, but I think these complaints are exaggerated.
 
Can't believe they didn't score Jeter with an error on that play. How do you put down a fielder's choice on that, with no out made on the play.
 
LJ11 said:
Yet the author of the article you posted felt that Jason Bay would have zero problems hitting for power in Citi Field because he's a great pull hitter. How'd that work out? Guess he can't pull the ball like he did in Fenway!

What 11 data? A couple of weeks worth of games now constitutes data? We have a terrible pitching staff, terrible pitchers give up long HRs.

All I'm saying, is that those balls are most likely gone in other stadiums. Yeah, they may have pitched him differently, but that's not my concern. 380-410 fly balls are. Dimensions are stupid, if you like them that's fine. I don't, and I'm not making excuses for the lack of power, we don't have any.
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I'd say that Bay is a streaky hitter, and sat out almost half of the season after the concussion/whiplash incident. He never got going.

I see your point, I really do, but I think it's overblown.

Edit: One more point. How about all the k's? And what about the fact that he hit 29 HRs last year?
 
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