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[AllIsOneIsNone]

Your attachments and stuff carry over, which I have concerns about. But otherwise, your damage stats are equalized out, so everyone's autorifle does the same damage, everyone's sniper rifle does the same damage, etc

Im guessing the prefixes (gear add-ons like faster reload speed) also carry over? And weapons with a faster fire rate, for example, probably do less dmg per bullet so that damage is probably mitigated at the same ratio as lower fire rate/higher dmg per bullet? It seems to work well in the alpha whatever they did, but as I said in another thread, I'm a bit worried about how exotic gear is going to affect balance as I'm sure the special abilities they unlock will also cross over. Could be cool though.

 

[broony]

Just to go back to people talking about Vita and voice chat, just tested and if you start a party on vita then launch the remote play app it boots you out if your party.

 

[DeMeester]

What I'm still wondering is with how many players you'll be able to team up in the campaign. The Explore and Strike portions of the game allow a fire team of up to 3 players. Vault of Glass should have a max of 6, but are we allowed to have up to 4-6 in story mode?

 

[Hoodbury]

What I'm still wondering is with how many players you'll be able to team up in the campaign. The Explore and Strike portions of the game allow a fire team of up to 3 players. Vault of Glass should have a max of 6, but are we allowed to have up to 4-6 in story mode?

In the Alpha you could only do 3 for the story mode.

 

[AmethystEnd]

What I'm still wondering is with how many players you'll be able to team up in the campaign. The Explore and Strike portions of the game allow a fire team of up to 3 players. Vault of Glass should have a max of 6, but are we allowed to have up to 4-6 in story mode?

No source, but I'm almost positive they've said all PvE content is 3 man fireteams except for the raid. You'll run into other people in the open world and you could form ad-hoc groups but you won't be in a "party" per se.

 

[The Librarian]

In the Alpha you could only do 3 for the story mode.

It'll be that way for retail too.

 

[majik13]

What I'm still wondering is with how many players you'll be able to team up in the campaign. The Explore and Strike portions of the game allow a fire team of up to 3 players. Vault of Glass should have a max of 6, but are we allowed to have up to 4-6 in story mode?

as far as I know campaing, is only single player.
Story missions are 1-3 players

http://www.vg247.com/2014/06/09/destiny-ps4-xbox-one-gameplay-footage-alpha-leak-bungie-explains/

 

[The Librarian]

as far as I know campaing, is only single player.
Story missions are 1-3 players

http://www.vg247.com/2014/06/09/destiny-ps4-xbox-one-gameplay-footage-alpha-leak-bungie-explains/

Campaign = story missions.

 

[DeMeester]

In the Alpha you could only do 3 for the story mode.

I thought it was only Strike, Explore and Crucible in the Alpha? Hmmm.. or was the Moon Wizard part Story?

No source, but I'm almost positive they've said all PvE content is 3 man fireteams except for the raid. You'll run into other people in the open world and you could form ad-hoc groups but you won't be in a "party" per se.

That's a shame . I was hoping to team up with 3 friends for a weekend full of Destiny campaign awesomeness. Just like with Halo 3 - Reach.

 

[Hoodbury]

I thought it was only Strike, Explore and Crucible in the Alpha? Hmmm..

The whole "that wizard came from the moon" stuff was from the campaign/story. There was 1 story mission in Alpha.

 

[majik13]

Campaign = story missions.

odd, thats what i always thought but I swear I read otherwise just yesterday, but now I cant find it but it is still strange with Luke's wording here. from that link.(which orginated from Gaf)

"Story missions – soloable activities (you can still play them in groups of up to 3!), often with ties to the main story arc of Destiny (the campaign). "

they are specifically differentiating between story missions and a separate campaign.

 

[Llyrwenne]

odd, thats what i always thought but I swear I read otherwise just yesterday, but now I cant find it but it is still strange with Luke's wording here. from that link.(which orginated from Gaf)



they are specifically differentiating between story missions and a separate campaign.

They just see only the main story arc as 'the campaign'. Story missions are either part of that main arc ( and thus the campaign ), or take place outside of that main arc ( think of those like side missions ).

 

[DeMeester]

The whole "that wizard came from the moon" stuff was from the campaign/story. There was 1 story mission in Alpha.

Yeah, I just noticed that when looking at a youtube video of the alpha Earth map. Apparently I was oblivious to it when actually playing the Alpha last week .

 

[Hoodbury]

Yeah, I just noticed that when looking at a youtube video of the alpha Earth map. Apparently I was oblivious to it when actually playing the Alpha last week .

yeah, took me awhile to see it as well but you could replay it as much as you wanted and also like the strike change the difficulty of it to legendary or whatever. I think someone even said if you chose to do it on legendary it has a different boss mob. But don't quote me on that.

 

[Marvel]

3 player co-op campaign is going to be a blast.

 

[AmethystEnd]

3 player co-op campaign is going to be a blast.

Yep, me and a couple of my friends are going to try to blow through all the story missions at midnight release (because let's face it, there will be midnight releases for a game as big as Destiny).

 

[Korben]

Did Bungie explain why they chose the "3 players experience" instead of the standard four multiplayer coop ?

 

[ncsuDuncan]

Your attachments and stuff carry over, which I have concerns about. But otherwise, your damage stats are equalized out, so everyone's autorifle does the same damage, everyone's sniper rifle does the same damage, etc

Not entirely true (since not all autorifles do the same damage in multiplayer), but I assume you're just glossing over the difference between Attack and Impact for the sake of simplicity.

 

[Brannon]

Did Bungie explained why they chose the "3 players experience" instead of the standard four multiplayer coop ?

May be the whole "3-point" motif going on. Three-man team minimum, three points on the Destiny logo, Guardian vs Hive vs Fallen, life span for humanity tripled, and so on and so forth. Holy shit typing on a phone sucks.

 

[king grimlock]

May be the whole "3-point" motif going on. Three-man team minimum, three points on the Destiny logo, Guardian vs Hive vs Fallen, life span for humanity tripled, and so on and so forth. Holy shit typing on a phone sucks.

or there are only three classes to play...

 

[FyreWulff]

Not entirely true (since not all autorifles do the same damage in multiplayer), but I assume you're just glossing over the difference between Attack and Impact for the sake of simplicity.

Was told all ARs do the same damage *shrug*

 

[majik13]

Did Bungie explain why they chose the "3 players experience" instead of the standard four multiplayer coop ?

yeah i would have prefered at least 4. But I am guessing maybe because there are 3 classes? Or perhaps it is just a resource bottleneck/optimization thing.

Would be cool, if they add a new class and more slots to the fireteam down the road.

 

[Brannon]

or there are only three classes to play...

Wait, I thought there were six classes, unless the other three are sub classes.

 

[Marvel]

Yep, me and a couple of my friends are going to try to blow through all the story missions at midnight release (because let's face it, there will be midnight releases for a game as big as Destiny).

Enjoy! don't know what I will be hitting first, depends on who is online at the time really for me. Most of my friends are in different time zones.

 

[majik13]

Wait, I thought there were six classes, unless the other three are sub classes.

yeah subclasses I beleive.

 

[epiksol]

Alpha was absolutely incredible, completely 180'd my opinion on the game. Can't wait for Beta.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

 

[king grimlock]

Wait, I thought there were six classes, unless the other three are sub classes.

nope only 3
Titan(best)
warlolck
Hahahunter

 

[Horse]

I missed the Alpha, was on vacation. Do have a Beta code, so there's that.

 

[super-famicom]

Hmm, according to this, looks like anyone with PS+ gets access to the Beta.

 

[Korben]

I missed the Alpha, was on vacation. Do have a Beta code, so there's that.

Good news (i guess): http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=844217

The heretics who have not pre-ordered the game or didn't know the "amazon trick" will join us if they have a PS+ subscription.

This meant more Awoken to laughing at and a significant increase of kicked Vex's balls.

Back at the whole "3 players experience", i really hope they will release a new Class via DLC/addon, maybe a "pure healer" or something like that...

 

[harrypmgaga]

Back at the whole "3 players experience", i really hope they will release a new Class via DLC/addon, maybe a "pure healer" or something like that...

god no please no holy trinity.

 

[Horse]

.

Why are you quoting the PS+ info, I already have a Beta code. It was the Alpha I missed.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Update via twitter. You still need to preorder for psn.

 

[Orthogonal]

god no please no holy trinity.

It wouldn't be an MMO without tank, dps, healer and this is totally an MMO right? RIGHT?

 

[Trickster]

Back at the whole "3 players experience", i really hope they will release a new Class via DLC/addon, maybe a "pure healer" or something like that...

Not sure what you mean by pure healer, one of the classes will already have a sub class that's healer based afaik. Unless you mean a class that can't use guns, and is only there to do nothing but heal other players, like in traditional holy trinity type mmo's ?

 

[Orthogonal]

Did Bungie explain why they chose the "3 players experience" instead of the standard four multiplayer coop ?

My guess is play testing showed it to be the most balanced and fun.

 

[ncsuDuncan]

Was told all ARs do the same damage *shrug*

Check out these two shotguns:

Damage is a function of Attack AND Impact. When comparing these guns for use in Story/PvE modes, the Attack value is of great concern. In PvP modes, Attack is equalized - but Impact is NOT equalized. (Nor is Range, Stability, Reload, ROF, or Magazine size.) So when comparing single-shot damage for these two guns in PvP, ignore Attack and just look at the relative sizes of their Impact bars.

Some upgrades will boost a weapon's Attack, but then that upgrade will have no affect on the gun's damage output in PvP. Other upgrades can rebalance the gun's stats, boosting Impact while reducing ROF for example. Rarer weapons might have additional perks.

All of the above is similarly reflected in Gear/Armor - the Defense number is meaningless in PvP but secondary traits can give you perks - like faster handcannon reloading. Picking your PvP weapons/gear is sort of like picking your Perks in Call of Duty. (But remember, you can only have ONE exotic weapon and ONE exotic piece of gear equipped at any time.)

 

[Horse]

3 is the magic numbers guys, wrap it up.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

The way I see it one is a pretty lonely number. In fact the loneliest number you'll ever do

Two...hmmm... two is not as bad as one but it's the loneliest number since the number one. Yeah.

So three just barely beats minimum.

 

[Jburton]

Have applied for Destiny GAF

PSN ID shifty100

Bungie / GAF name Jburton

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Have applied for Destiny GAF

PSN ID shifty100

Bungie / GAF name Jburton

You're in. Welcome back bro.

 

[DeMeester]

yeah, took me awhile to see it as well but you could replay it as much as you wanted and also like the strike change the difficulty of it to legendary or whatever. I think someone even said if you chose to do it on legendary it has a different boss mob. But don't quote me on that.

I remember there being some extra enemies on legend difficulty. In the room with the Moon Wizard there were some exploding hive enemies if I remember correctly.

 

[AmethystEnd]

I remember there being some extra enemies on legend difficulty. In the room with the Moon Wizard there were some exploding hive enemies if I remember correctly.

And there was a Hive Knight in the first Hive mob on Legend. There isn't on the normal difficulty.

 

[Korben]

Why are you quoting the PS+ info, I already have a Beta code. It was the Alpha I missed.

To point out that you don't need your beta code anymore (apparently) if you have a PS+ subscription. So having a beta code is no longer a "privilege".

Not sure what you mean by pure healer, one of the classes will already have a sub class that's healer based afaik. Unless you mean a class that can't use guns, and is only there to do nothing but heal other players, like in traditional holy trinity type mmo's ?

I don't mean something as "radical" as the "Holy MMO Trinity", but we were talking previously about the fact that each Class seems to be "DPS oriented" at first time and the only thing which change in the end is the way you're dealing with that "DPS orientation" ("i'm a hunter, i'll do better against a single mob", "i'm a Warlock, i'll do fine with AOE attack", etc).

So i was thinking (too much ?) if a new Class (via DLC/addon) NOT "DPS oriented" (but you still get your gun, no worries, Guardians love the 2nd amendment) but more "support oriented" with special abilities which lead to another kind of gameplay would be a good "plus" for Destiny.

No (i see you Dax01) ?

 

[AmethystEnd]

To point out that you don't need your beta code anymore (apparently) if you have a PS+ subscription. So having a beta code is no longer a "privilege".

False alarm on that. Confirmed on twitter you still need a preorder.

 

[Korben]

False alarm on that. Confirmed on twitter you still need a preorder.

Ok.

So here you go Horse, you're still a special horse.

I'm proud.

ps: But (change of topic) Hunter > Titan, you'll have to acknowledge it, sooner or later.

 

[Orthogonal]

False alarm on that. Confirmed on twitter you still need a preorder.

Seemed too good to be true, but would have been a cool cross promotion. Sony probably would have seen an uptick in PS+ subscriptions for it.

 

[Horse]

Ok.

So here you go Horse, you're still a special horse.

I'm proud.

ps: But (change of topic) Hunter > Titan, you'll have to acknowledge it, sooner or later.

I'll always be GAFs special Horse. And no I shall not acknowledge a puny Hunter superior to a Titan.

False alarm on that. Confirmed on twitter you still need a preorder.

Glad I kept the code then, I almost gave it to a poor.

 

[dapperbandit]

Ok.

So here you go Horse, you're still a special horse.

I'm proud.

ps: But (change of topic) Hunter > Titan, you'll have to acknowledge it, sooner or later.

 

[Jburton]

You're in. Welcome back bro.

Thanks very much.