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Official Football Thread 2006/2007 (Soccer)
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ot: hadareud im not dutch, you probably got that from mmarsu or something 
on topic: i really think that arsenal can win next season's title. they've got a great team, they play great football but the only thing they're missing are some wingers. i like clichy on the left back pos because he keeps the game wide and toure (or eboue?) does this too on the other side.
aren't there rumors of ribery going to arsenal next year?
oh and liverpool are probably going to end in 5th place next season. bolton is closing in!
on topic: i really think that arsenal can win next season's title. they've got a great team, they play great football but the only thing they're missing are some wingers. i like clichy on the left back pos because he keeps the game wide and toure (or eboue?) does this too on the other side.
aren't there rumors of ribery going to arsenal next year?
oh and liverpool are probably going to end in 5th place next season. bolton is closing in!
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
Dammit, 1 point behind would have been so exciting. It's still shaping up to be the best end of the season in years (and not just in the Premiership, the whole English game), but it could have been so much more.
I'm bored, so here's my ideal Premiership team. Not necessarily my team of the season, just the team I would most like to go into next season with. And it's just about next season, I'm not bothering worrying about players getting on a bit for the future:
------------------Cech------------------
Finnan------Vidic----Carvalho----Evra
Ronaldo---Essien---Fabregas----Giggs
------------Drogba----Henry-----------
subs:
Given
Gallas
Gerrard
Rooney
Berbatov
- I don't think Carvalho is the second best centre back in the Premiership, just the best of the fast ones. Vidic has been great and I have to have him, but the only thing he lacks is pace so I can't put him in with Carragher or Terry or wheoever.
- Gallas would probably be there anyway, but as a sub he's perfect as he can play really well all the way across the back line.
- I don't necessarily think Gerrard is the 5th best midfielder in the Premiership, in fact I don't. However, his versatility makes him more of an asset than the others, I reckon he can play in 6 different positions. Also his ideal one, full on attacking central midfield, isn't really covered in the main team.
Anyone want to try and beat that team?
I'm bored, so here's my ideal Premiership team. Not necessarily my team of the season, just the team I would most like to go into next season with. And it's just about next season, I'm not bothering worrying about players getting on a bit for the future:
------------------Cech------------------
Finnan------Vidic----Carvalho----Evra
Ronaldo---Essien---Fabregas----Giggs
------------Drogba----Henry-----------
subs:
Given
Gallas
Gerrard
Rooney
Berbatov
- I don't think Carvalho is the second best centre back in the Premiership, just the best of the fast ones. Vidic has been great and I have to have him, but the only thing he lacks is pace so I can't put him in with Carragher or Terry or wheoever.
- Gallas would probably be there anyway, but as a sub he's perfect as he can play really well all the way across the back line.
- I don't necessarily think Gerrard is the 5th best midfielder in the Premiership, in fact I don't. However, his versatility makes him more of an asset than the others, I reckon he can play in 6 different positions. Also his ideal one, full on attacking central midfield, isn't really covered in the main team.
Anyone want to try and beat that team?
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
Wait a....Blackburn have been relegated?! FUCKING Southend are in the Premiership instead?!
I'd burn the world before I let that happen!
I'd burn the world before I let that happen!
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
Its good that you didnt bet on that and lose even more money.hadareud said:
I hate watching chelsea play, not because they dont play nice football, but because I get all exited seeing them losing or getting held to a draw only for one of their players to score in the last minute. I had that horrible feeling that it would happen today, but the toon army did well. Its a huge let-off. Aside from chelsea, the boro game was the one that I was worried about most because they've become a real problem for us this season. I cant see us messing up against everton and citeh, not just because we are better than them, but because united know that they cant **** another game up.
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
FM is a very wierd game. I played with man utd for several seasons and some strange shit has happened. Southampton have won the CL in my game.Mama Smurf said:
Just some advice for wes and anyone else who play fm2007. Buy marcelo and play him on the left wing. He is the best player in the game. If you're lucky he should be still on the contract with a £5.5 million minimum release fee.
IfAllElseFailsUseFire
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screw you chelski, daaaaaaamn, why couldn't they win, why god why
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
Title run in (not nearly as interesting as if Chelsea won):
1 Man Utd---34--54--82
2 Chelsea---34--40--79
Games, goal difference, points.
Remaining fixtures
Man Utd
A Everton
A Man City
A Chelsea
H West Ham
Avg. opposition placing: 9.75
Avg. opposition placing minus Chelsea: 12.33
Chelsea
H Bolton
A Arsenal
H Man Utd
H Everton
Avg. opposition placing: 4
Avg. opposition placing minus Man Utd: 5
Chelsea have to get 4 points, because they're never going to make up 15 goals in 4 games. Their fixtures are considerably harder than United's, but they have two advantages. One, they're at home 3 times compared to United who have a single home game left. Two, they have almost all their players fit whilst United are missing a good number, particularly in defence.
Using that stats site we can have a look at it taking the home and away things into account:
Man Utd
A Everton 43 28 29
A Man City 53 27 20
A Chelsea 22 26 52
H West Ham 87 10 3
Chelsea
H Bolton 75 17 8
A Arsenal 35 31 34
H Man Utd 52 26 22
H Everton 67 22 11
The first number is the percentage chance of Chslea/Man Utd winning that game, the second the chance chance a draw, the last the chance of a loss.
It's interesting, because whilst Man Utd have a better chance of winning against Everton than either drawing or losing, they're actually slightly more likely to not win than they are to. And that Man City game is close as well.
Chelsea have some pretty good odds, aside from the Arsenal game where effectively it could go any way. It's all down to being at home so much, but the points differecne really screws it up for them.
It doesn't necessarily mean much, but the average chances of them winning drawing and losing their remining games are:
Man Utd
51.25 22.75 26
Chelsea
57.25 24 18.75
And the same but minus the game against each other:
Man Utd
61 21.66 17.33
Chelsea
59 23.33 17.66
So the stats slightly favour Chelsea. However, they don't favour them to overhaul Man utd's total, just to close the gap before the end of the season.
1 Man Utd---34--54--82
2 Chelsea---34--40--79
Games, goal difference, points.
Remaining fixtures
Man Utd
A Everton
A Man City
A Chelsea
H West Ham
Avg. opposition placing: 9.75
Avg. opposition placing minus Chelsea: 12.33
Chelsea
H Bolton
A Arsenal
H Man Utd
H Everton
Avg. opposition placing: 4
Avg. opposition placing minus Man Utd: 5
Chelsea have to get 4 points, because they're never going to make up 15 goals in 4 games. Their fixtures are considerably harder than United's, but they have two advantages. One, they're at home 3 times compared to United who have a single home game left. Two, they have almost all their players fit whilst United are missing a good number, particularly in defence.
Using that stats site we can have a look at it taking the home and away things into account:
Man Utd
A Everton 43 28 29
A Man City 53 27 20
A Chelsea 22 26 52
H West Ham 87 10 3
Chelsea
H Bolton 75 17 8
A Arsenal 35 31 34
H Man Utd 52 26 22
H Everton 67 22 11
The first number is the percentage chance of Chslea/Man Utd winning that game, the second the chance chance a draw, the last the chance of a loss.
It's interesting, because whilst Man Utd have a better chance of winning against Everton than either drawing or losing, they're actually slightly more likely to not win than they are to. And that Man City game is close as well.
Chelsea have some pretty good odds, aside from the Arsenal game where effectively it could go any way. It's all down to being at home so much, but the points differecne really screws it up for them.
It doesn't necessarily mean much, but the average chances of them winning drawing and losing their remining games are:
Man Utd
51.25 22.75 26
Chelsea
57.25 24 18.75
And the same but minus the game against each other:
Man Utd
61 21.66 17.33
Chelsea
59 23.33 17.66
So the stats slightly favour Chelsea. However, they don't favour them to overhaul Man utd's total, just to close the gap before the end of the season.
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
Its horribly addictive.bud said:
bud said:
I love Football Manager. It's really absorbing and addictive. Really depends how indepth you want to go when you play. I play with the same tactic in every single match (except for important games in cups etc) and play at the fastest setting usually. Means I usually do 6 months in a day that I play. There are some people though who will play at a snails pace and tweek everything. Completely up to you how you want to play it.
But anyway if you enjoy football you'll probably enjoy this game. Sports Interactive are good developers and bring out patches with the latest transfers on and so on. There's a demo out there still I think if you want to try.
Three games that are going to be compulsive viewing will be:
Man Utd v Man City
Chelsea v Arsenal
Man Utd v Chelsea
Two derbies and a clash between the title contenders, all with implications on the end result. Should be good!
By the way I'm putting money on Gallas scoring the winner for Arsenal against Chelsea!
Man Utd v Man City
Chelsea v Arsenal
Man Utd v Chelsea
Two derbies and a clash between the title contenders, all with implications on the end result. Should be good!
By the way I'm putting money on Gallas scoring the winner for Arsenal against Chelsea!
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
Interesting stats. Our season depends on when our defensive players can get fit. We have evra back for AC Milan. Neville is back for the game against everton, whilst vidic and ferdinand will be available slightly after that. Brown and o'shea/ heinze will have to play in the middle. Having neville and evra back is a big plus. Those two are brilliant an linking up with the wingers and they're good at defending. if anyone's noticed in our last few games, we cant bring the ball out of the defence very well, they just boot the ball up the pitch. Against everton our defence should be ok. Johnson can cause us problems, but I think Brown is good enough to handle him.
btw where do you get the stats from mama?
btw where do you get the stats from mama?
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
The thing about Football Manager is that you have to accept that it's a different world to actual football. They do their best, but they get things wrong. I actually find it very frustrating, for example I might be managing Blackburn and within the game Emerton is the best right winger, whereas I know in reality Bentley is far better. So if you want to do well in the game you have to listen to what it's saying, not the actual reality of the situation.
Same goes for things like searching for players to buy. Pay attention to their stats in game and you'll be able to find some great bargains...try and buy a player you've noticed in real life doing well at a lower club and chances are you aren't going to be buying a decent player in game.
Football Manager Live is doing away with real teams, which is good, but I kind of wish it was doing away with real players too. It'd be like an entire alternate world of football, where we notice and buy players purely within the game, and Andy Finchley is the equivalent of Wayne Rooney and Thierry Valentino is the greatest goalkeeper in the world.
EDIT: Stats are from The Fink Tank, The Times (as in the paper) stats column.
Same goes for things like searching for players to buy. Pay attention to their stats in game and you'll be able to find some great bargains...try and buy a player you've noticed in real life doing well at a lower club and chances are you aren't going to be buying a decent player in game.
Football Manager Live is doing away with real teams, which is good, but I kind of wish it was doing away with real players too. It'd be like an entire alternate world of football, where we notice and buy players purely within the game, and Andy Finchley is the equivalent of Wayne Rooney and Thierry Valentino is the greatest goalkeeper in the world.
EDIT: Stats are from The Fink Tank, The Times (as in the paper) stats column.
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
thanksMama Smurf said:
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
Inter have won the Serie A title to go along with Celtic winning the SPL today. And Lyon won the French League yesterday as well.
Speaking of Lyon, they have a transfer budget of £135m this summer. I don't know how on earth they have that sort of money, but that's impressive. They obviously want the CL, their league titles are all well and good but they've won 6 in a row, it probably doesn't even mean all that much to their fans anymore. Plus they're stuck in a decent, but not one of the top European leagues, and probably can't get the recognition they deserve without European success.
It's not all good, apparently they'll sell "two or three players who are being demanded by big clubs" (Aulus, the president of Lyon), but that still won't come anywhere near covering the budget. The rumoured players to leave are Abidal (Arsenal or Barcelona) and Malouda (Arsenal again or more likely Juventus) and I dunno who the potential third is.
I'll be interested to see if they can actually attract top players. They might be a great side, but they're still playing in France and that's not gonna change.
Speaking of Lyon, they have a transfer budget of £135m this summer. I don't know how on earth they have that sort of money, but that's impressive. They obviously want the CL, their league titles are all well and good but they've won 6 in a row, it probably doesn't even mean all that much to their fans anymore. Plus they're stuck in a decent, but not one of the top European leagues, and probably can't get the recognition they deserve without European success.
It's not all good, apparently they'll sell "two or three players who are being demanded by big clubs" (Aulus, the president of Lyon), but that still won't come anywhere near covering the budget. The rumoured players to leave are Abidal (Arsenal or Barcelona) and Malouda (Arsenal again or more likely Juventus) and I dunno who the potential third is.
I'll be interested to see if they can actually attract top players. They might be a great side, but they're still playing in France and that's not gonna change.
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
I'll do predictions when I'm more sure who will be fit for United.
Assuming conformation comes through from betfair in time, I'll hopefully be actually betting on Premiership games this time next weekend. I've done 5 weeks (33 games) of testing and I'm happy with the results.
50%-59.99% is abandoned, lose way more than I win on those games. 60% plus though is great (23 games checked).
I've been checking it overall, but also weekly. I do my weeks from Tuesdsay to Monday, because so often weekend games go from Saturday to Monday, and i like those to be in the same week. If I'd bet £100 each week (just spread out evenly over however many games I'm betting on each time), this is how the profits would look:
13th March - 19th March
£6 profit
(There's a week of no betting here because of internationals)
27th March - 2nd April
£8.60 profit
3rd April - 9th April
£17.17 profit
10th April - 16th April
£85 profit
17th April - 23rd April
£14.33 profit
Total: £500 bet, £131.10 profit
Assuming conformation comes through from betfair in time, I'll hopefully be actually betting on Premiership games this time next weekend. I've done 5 weeks (33 games) of testing and I'm happy with the results.
50%-59.99% is abandoned, lose way more than I win on those games. 60% plus though is great (23 games checked).
I've been checking it overall, but also weekly. I do my weeks from Tuesdsay to Monday, because so often weekend games go from Saturday to Monday, and i like those to be in the same week. If I'd bet £100 each week (just spread out evenly over however many games I'm betting on each time), this is how the profits would look:
13th March - 19th March
£6 profit
(There's a week of no betting here because of internationals)
27th March - 2nd April
£8.60 profit
3rd April - 9th April
£17.17 profit
10th April - 16th April
£85 profit
17th April - 23rd April
£14.33 profit
Total: £500 bet, £131.10 profit
bud said:
I thought Chelsea were playing at home first that's why! Have you seen Liverpools record at home this season? They'll spank Chelsea about in the first half and Chelski will score a late one giving them some hope fo stanford bridge.
Man Utd got too many injuries in their defence so will let a few in, but with their attacking options still ticking into overdrive i think that game will be a goalfest.
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
Do you want to share your betting results hadareud? [ highlight] without the space makes things red.
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