Stevie Gerrard
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MrPing1000
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WHAT THE ****!
FFS Fergie u couldn't get Tevez or perhaps more importantly Mascherano on loan at least? ARGH!
FFS Fergie u couldn't get Tevez or perhaps more importantly Mascherano on loan at least? ARGH!
Pardew has pwned me again it seems...if its true, seems a bit surreal to me.
It is on his website though:
http://www.carlitostevez.com.ar/esp/index.php
its all in spanish but its pretty easy to understand.
WTF!
It is on his website though:
http://www.carlitostevez.com.ar/esp/index.php
its all in spanish but its pretty easy to understand.
WTF!
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
Holy ****ing Shit. That came out of nowhere. Its difficult to believe its true at the moment, if west ham really did sign both tevez and maschernano it would be ****ing unbelievable.
Im not too upset about missing out on them. We didnt need tevez because we already have 4 strikers. Rooney, Saha and Smith are all just as capable if not better than tevez is. Maschernano didnt impress me at the world cup so I dont think its such a bad thing to have missed out on him. Our midfield might not be the strongest, but last year we were the second best team in england with a midfield that consited of john o'shea and gigs in the centre, so its goiung to be a lot better now that we have scholes and carrick. Id rather see United avoid buying south american players because I dont want to see us waste our money like we did on veron and kleberson
Im not too upset about missing out on them. We didnt need tevez because we already have 4 strikers. Rooney, Saha and Smith are all just as capable if not better than tevez is. Maschernano didnt impress me at the world cup so I dont think its such a bad thing to have missed out on him. Our midfield might not be the strongest, but last year we were the second best team in england with a midfield that consited of john o'shea and gigs in the centre, so its goiung to be a lot better now that we have scholes and carrick. Id rather see United avoid buying south american players because I dont want to see us waste our money like we did on veron and kleberson
It is somewhat of a coincidence that MSI (Media company) are involved, they own the two players, they were the company linked with buying West Ham last year. They couldnt agree a value for the club back then.
If this happens its almost certainly a sign that the deal is back on.
Cant believe none of the news stories so far have picked up on the MSI link.
If this happens its almost certainly a sign that the deal is back on.
Cant believe none of the news stories so far have picked up on the MSI link.
i dont know about this, there are so many different places quoting different things about Tevez.
Telegraph say he's a Man Utd player, The Sun reckon they are both going to Arsenal and of course BBC say to West Ham Utd, i know the BBC are more reliable than the others but i reckon this is not the end of it lol
All i hope is that Reyes gets outta here before 12pm tonight
Telegraph say he's a Man Utd player, The Sun reckon they are both going to Arsenal and of course BBC say to West Ham Utd, i know the BBC are more reliable than the others but i reckon this is not the end of it lol
All i hope is that Reyes gets outta here before 12pm tonight
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
skysports and soccernet are also reporting that tevez and mascherano are heading to west ham. Its probably true if so many places are reporting it.
Good on the Hammers if they've pulled that off...even if it's only for a year as some places are suggesting, that's a pretty bold move.
Here are the transfer links again...keep refreshing those bitches!
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/transfer_centre/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/5235160.stm
http://home.skysports.com/transfernews.aspx
Here are the transfer links again...keep refreshing those bitches!
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/transfer_centre/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/5235160.stm
http://home.skysports.com/transfernews.aspx
The word on the net now is that this is all a big Roman conspiracy (MSI & Roman rumours have been doing the rounds for years) and the two will end up at chelsea when their loans finish (unless we cripple them).
I prefer my theory :'(
Still theres worse teams to be a feeder club for than Chelsea. Maybe they noticed our last game of the season is Man U and decided we needed a hand
I prefer my theory :'(
Still theres worse teams to be a feeder club for than Chelsea. Maybe they noticed our last game of the season is Man U and decided we needed a hand
hey man doesnt matter about who gets them after, this season could potentially get you further up the table!
i have a soft spot for West Ham although being a Gooner, i just like the team and the fans plus that FA Cup Final last season was amazing due to West Ham, all i hope is that this isnt a Chelski deal, i really hope it isnt.
Andy Cole has just signed for Pompey.
i have a soft spot for West Ham although being a Gooner, i just like the team and the fans plus that FA Cup Final last season was amazing due to West Ham, all i hope is that this isnt a Chelski deal, i really hope it isnt.
Andy Cole has just signed for Pompey.
coming to Highbury?
lol you know i made the mistake of heading towards Highbury for the Villa game, and was wondering why everyone was walking the other way? then saw a massive stadium and realised :lol
lets just hope Jose doesnt pull a Vieira and stay after all this mess, but yes i hope Cole stays now after watching Hoyte at Man City *cringe*
lol you know i made the mistake of heading towards Highbury for the Villa game, and was wondering why everyone was walking the other way? then saw a massive stadium and realised :lol
lets just hope Jose doesnt pull a Vieira and stay after all this mess, but yes i hope Cole stays now after watching Hoyte at Man City *cringe*
Ghost said:The word on the net now is that this is all a big Roman conspiracy (MSI & Roman rumours have been doing the rounds for years) and the two will end up at chelsea when their loans finish (unless we cripple them).
I prefer my theory :'(
Still theres worse teams to be a feeder club for than Chelsea. Maybe they noticed our last game of the season is Man U and decided we needed a hand
I presume you were reading this article:
http://stateofthegame.co.uk/2006/08/31/something-fishy-tevez-mascherano-west-ham-united/
"My suspicions lead me to a somewhat shadier deal being cooked up between the players club Corinthians, their owners MSI and another club with shady links to MSI and their owners. Its long been rumoured that Roman Abramovich is the money man behind MSI and the reason that a broke Brazilian club like Corinthians could afford players like Tevez and Mascherano in the first place. It leaves no doubt in my mind that Chelsea and Roman are behind this proposed season long loan deal for the two Argentinians to West Ham and its only for one purpose - to acclimatise the players to London and the Premiership and see whether they are worth signing for Chelsea properly next summer."
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
I read a rumour last night that Tevez and Mascherano might head to one of the smaller teams on loan rather than one of the bigger ones, though it suggested Porftsmouth might be the destination.
Great deals for West Ham if it turns out true. It does appear to be a case of proving to bigger clubs that these two South Americans are able to compete in the Premiership and therefore justify the high fees they're wanted for....but I doubt West Ham give a crap.
Wee bit worried about teams moving past Blackburn with their transfers. I look at Middlesbrough getting Woodgate and Huth, West Ham with the above, Villa with Petrov and Milner (and who knows who else), Portsmouth with Fernandes, Cole and Kranjcar, Bolton with Anelka, Newcastle with Martins, Rossi and they're apparently still chasing Viduka (buy a defenderd ****tards!)...and how can I not worry?
Sure, there are plenty of teams left who don't appear to be bringing themselves up to another level, but all that does is mean we probably won't be relegated. I want more than that, I won't be happy if we finish outside the top half.
We are still in the hunt for players. There's a Roma striker called Shabani Nonda who we might be buying (or getting on loan). I'd never heard of him, but he looks like he could be pretty good from his stats. He hasn't played much in his only year at Roma, probably just because better strikers are ahead of him, but he has still scored 5 in 8 starts (11 subs). Before that he was at Monaco and seemed to have a couple of bad years in terms of appearances (not sure if he was injured or just dropped), but his goalscoring rate was still decent when he did play. For the two seasons before them he scored 40 goals in 58 games for them.
We're also after an Egyptian centre back called Wael Gomaa, though he's trained with Newcastle and we know how badly they need defenders so that one probably won't happen. There's yet another Egyptian called Amr Zaki (with Mido I can't imagine where out scouts have been this summer) who's a striker and rumoured a few days ago, though that one seems to have cooled. We still want Kristofer Haestad, a Norwegian midfielder, but we're far from alone in that with the likes of Man Utd and Bolton also watching him. We've beaten off bigger clubs before though with promises of actual playing time.
Finally, if Neill goes (it's rumoured Liverpool might meet our £4m valuation, god I love deadline day), we might just get....Mills.
Great deals for West Ham if it turns out true. It does appear to be a case of proving to bigger clubs that these two South Americans are able to compete in the Premiership and therefore justify the high fees they're wanted for....but I doubt West Ham give a crap.
Wee bit worried about teams moving past Blackburn with their transfers. I look at Middlesbrough getting Woodgate and Huth, West Ham with the above, Villa with Petrov and Milner (and who knows who else), Portsmouth with Fernandes, Cole and Kranjcar, Bolton with Anelka, Newcastle with Martins, Rossi and they're apparently still chasing Viduka (buy a defenderd ****tards!)...and how can I not worry?
Sure, there are plenty of teams left who don't appear to be bringing themselves up to another level, but all that does is mean we probably won't be relegated. I want more than that, I won't be happy if we finish outside the top half.
We are still in the hunt for players. There's a Roma striker called Shabani Nonda who we might be buying (or getting on loan). I'd never heard of him, but he looks like he could be pretty good from his stats. He hasn't played much in his only year at Roma, probably just because better strikers are ahead of him, but he has still scored 5 in 8 starts (11 subs). Before that he was at Monaco and seemed to have a couple of bad years in terms of appearances (not sure if he was injured or just dropped), but his goalscoring rate was still decent when he did play. For the two seasons before them he scored 40 goals in 58 games for them.
We're also after an Egyptian centre back called Wael Gomaa, though he's trained with Newcastle and we know how badly they need defenders so that one probably won't happen. There's yet another Egyptian called Amr Zaki (with Mido I can't imagine where out scouts have been this summer) who's a striker and rumoured a few days ago, though that one seems to have cooled. We still want Kristofer Haestad, a Norwegian midfielder, but we're far from alone in that with the likes of Man Utd and Bolton also watching him. We've beaten off bigger clubs before though with promises of actual playing time.
Finally, if Neill goes (it's rumoured Liverpool might meet our £4m valuation, god I love deadline day), we might just get....Mills.
Why the hell is Tevez and Mascherano going to West Ham?! Surely their wage request would be gigantic and could West Ham afford it?
That is such a huge coup for them. Chelsea, Arsenal and Man Utd must be feeling pretty raw right about now. although if it is just for a season long loan then I see it more as the opening of the gateway into the Premiership, with the big clubs making bids on them next year. They're probably just seeing if they can settle into life in Britain.
And now with Villa news! It looks like Saviola doesn't want anything to do with us, the fool. Looks like O'Neill will probably land Milner from Newcastle which would be good for us. Also we've been linked with Defoe and Malbranque, either of whom would be a great addition to our squad.
Is it just me or is the premiership looking to be awesome this year?
That is such a huge coup for them. Chelsea, Arsenal and Man Utd must be feeling pretty raw right about now. although if it is just for a season long loan then I see it more as the opening of the gateway into the Premiership, with the big clubs making bids on them next year. They're probably just seeing if they can settle into life in Britain.
And now with Villa news! It looks like Saviola doesn't want anything to do with us, the fool. Looks like O'Neill will probably land Milner from Newcastle which would be good for us. Also we've been linked with Defoe and Malbranque, either of whom would be a great addition to our squad.
Is it just me or is the premiership looking to be awesome this year?
Watching Sky Sports News on transfer day is so much fun!
Latest Update:
Viduka is not moving.
It was revealed by Middlesbrough that they couldn't contact the Chelsea chairman earlier (to talk about the Huth move) today because "he was on other business". Sounds like there could be some kind of movement in the Ashely Cole situation.
Malbranque has gone to Tottenham.
Latest Update:
Viduka is not moving.
It was revealed by Middlesbrough that they couldn't contact the Chelsea chairman earlier (to talk about the Huth move) today because "he was on other business". Sounds like there could be some kind of movement in the Ashely Cole situation.
Malbranque has gone to Tottenham.
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
Malbranque has signed for Spurs.
Seriously. And to think, I was worried about a possible Premiership without Van Nistelrooy or Henry a few months ago.
I'm trying to think of big players who have left the Premiership this year. The only ones I can come up with have either retired and were already on their way out last year, weren't that good anyway or are in the twilight years of their careers. You know, Bergkamp, Pires, Shearer...even Van Nistelrooy isn't as good as he was, it's not just Ferguson who thins so, he seems to be out of the reckoning for the Dutch squad.
I suppose you could make a case for Crespo, Gudjohnsen and Del Horno, but they're still completely overwhelmed by the players being brought in. Rosicky, Petrov, McCarthy, Ooijer, Anelka, Ballack, Boulahrouz, Obi Mikel, Kalou, Shevchenko, Kuyt, Woodgate, Martins, Fernandes, Berbatov, Zakora, Tevez, Mascherano...this must be the strongest Premiership ever.
And that's only transfers, clubs like Portsmouth and Villa now have new backers and good managers, even the promoted sides seem strong (for promoted sides)...amazing.
Wes said:Is it just me or is the premiership looking to be awesome this year?
Seriously. And to think, I was worried about a possible Premiership without Van Nistelrooy or Henry a few months ago.
I'm trying to think of big players who have left the Premiership this year. The only ones I can come up with have either retired and were already on their way out last year, weren't that good anyway or are in the twilight years of their careers. You know, Bergkamp, Pires, Shearer...even Van Nistelrooy isn't as good as he was, it's not just Ferguson who thins so, he seems to be out of the reckoning for the Dutch squad.
I suppose you could make a case for Crespo, Gudjohnsen and Del Horno, but they're still completely overwhelmed by the players being brought in. Rosicky, Petrov, McCarthy, Ooijer, Anelka, Ballack, Boulahrouz, Obi Mikel, Kalou, Shevchenko, Kuyt, Woodgate, Martins, Fernandes, Berbatov, Zakora, Tevez, Mascherano...this must be the strongest Premiership ever.
And that's only transfers, clubs like Portsmouth and Villa now have new backers and good managers, even the promoted sides seem strong (for promoted sides)...amazing.
MrPing1000
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we aren't gonna buy anyone I just know it...
Can't believe tevez and mascherano are going to West Ham. At least it isn't Arsenal, as first feared.
Can't believe tevez and mascherano are going to West Ham. At least it isn't Arsenal, as first feared.
MrPing1000
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It's all got something to do with the group that represents them. It's a financial thing not a football thing from the looks of it.
Supposidly West Ham have an option to buy at the end of the loan but I can't see how they could afford even one of them.
Supposidly West Ham have an option to buy at the end of the loan but I can't see how they could afford even one of them.
MrPing1000
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well msi represent the 2 players, they supposidly have very close ties to Roman. 1 year at West Ham lets them see if they can adapt to the English game. After loan Chelsea buys them.
MrPing1000 said:
I dunno that i buy that theory, Chelsea could use Tevez now, even if it is a bit of a gamble, they've lost Crespo and Cole.
Plus although Roman has been linked with MSI, both sides have denied it and other sources have claimed that the Boris Berezovsky funds it, and he and Roman aint best palls.
MSI tried to buy West Ham, i dont think they would have even tried to do that if Roman was in control.
Just listening to Talksport radio, they are playing a clip from night where a guy from New York rang up and said his pal from Argentina had told him about Tevez and they laughed him off the air :lol
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
They'll get permits, no problem.
Does anyone remember the rumour that Chelsea would wait until the last day to sign Cole at Arsenal's asking price, just so they wouldn't be able to spend that money right away? Seemed pretty petty and stupid at the time, but...maybe.
Does anyone remember the rumour that Chelsea would wait until the last day to sign Cole at Arsenal's asking price, just so they wouldn't be able to spend that money right away? Seemed pretty petty and stupid at the time, but...maybe.
MrPing1000
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Mama Smurf said:
I wouldn't put it past them.
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Google said:
They'd either get £20m to spend now or in 5 months time, it's not going to make much difference. Wenger may even have felt forced to spend it now when many of the big names in positions they need have already been signed this summer, rather than wait for the right people. Now if it goes through he'll be forced to wait, which may well work out better for Arsenal in the end.
Plus it's just lame. Chelsea are that worried about Arsenal? Chelsea with their billions and able to outspend any other club on the planet are worried about Arsenal getting a measly £20m? Well then they'll be shitting themselves when they realise Arsenal's new stadium is expected to give them an extra £30m a year to spend on players over Highbury.
That £20mill would probably have only been used to entice Tevez to Arsenal anyway and that looks like it's too late now.
I'm quite distressed to hear no news from Villa Park yet. I know Milner has been down there today to talk it out, but no announcements yet. Also O'Neill said he had another transfer lined up but no news about that either!
I got to say this is actually quite entertaining. Reminds me why I play Manager sims now. Speaking of which are you guys going to be picking up Football Manager 2006 around christmas time? I'm sensing a GAF league of epic proportions on the horizon
I'm quite distressed to hear no news from Villa Park yet. I know Milner has been down there today to talk it out, but no announcements yet. Also O'Neill said he had another transfer lined up but no news about that either!
I got to say this is actually quite entertaining. Reminds me why I play Manager sims now. Speaking of which are you guys going to be picking up Football Manager 2006 around christmas time? I'm sensing a GAF league of epic proportions on the horizon
MrPing1000
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I heard Saviola turned down Villa
other than the west ham incident today is bloody dull.
other than the west ham incident today is bloody dull.
It's quite interesting to see how Lerner is showing much more interest in Villa than the Browns. Then again, you have to **** up real bad to lose money in the NFL.Wes said:I'm quite distressed to hear no news from Villa Park yet. I know Milner has been down there today to talk it out, but no announcements yet. Also O'Neill said he had another transfer lined up but no news about that either!
I got to say this is actually quite entertaining. Reminds me why I play Manager sims now. Speaking of which are you guys going to be picking up Football Manager 2006 around christmas time? I'm sensing a GAF league of epic proportions on the horizon
MrPing1000
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Holy Shit
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
Google said:
Wow, that does sound clever.
Ghost said:
:lol I don't believe it! There must be some sort of clauses in those contracts, something....crazy, like 100% of the fee if they're sold and being allowed to speak to any club who offers more than £10m or something. Otherwise, how could West Ham afford them? And why would they even go?
Maybe West Ham are about to be bought.
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
I wonder if this'll open up the door for a quick Reo-Coker sale.
p.s. please can Blackburn have Zamora?
p.s. please can Blackburn have Zamora?
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