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Official Football Thread 2006/2007 (Soccer)
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Shinobi said:
wow man, I was just responding to your "fair play awards in 2004 and 2005" and pointing to the drama and controversy which still followed your team around during those "well behaved years".
as I said, I don't need to get over anything because Utd often come out of these ugly encounters better off, while Arsenal are the ones who resemble childish petulant kids.
p.s. about etoo, I dunno what news sources you get but a British paper reported this week that he said the only English club he wants to join is Utd. I thought nothing of it though. Just interesting that you brought up a completely different story.
I believe there was actually an interview with Eto'o where he talked about his admiration for Wenger a couple of weeks ago. The Chelsea rumour goes back to last season.
Let me just say that I am hundred percent certain that he won't join Arsenal. Or Chelsea. Or manyoo for that matter - I don't think he will leave Barcelona at all to be honest.
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he's likely to be in the squad - but it's yet unclear if he can start or play at all.
Let me just say that I am hundred percent certain that he won't join Arsenal. Or Chelsea. Or manyoo for that matter - I don't think he will leave Barcelona at all to be honest.
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bud said:
he's likely to be in the squad - but it's yet unclear if he can start or play at all.
Ryck said:
We have a few Arsenal supporters on here, I find its nice to spice things up otherwise this thread is far too friendly! Gotta make things a bit interesting eh?
Its nothing serious, just trying to press each others buttons. Are you a Man Utd fan then? You can't be a Man Utd fan if you don't hate Liverpool mate..... and you have to feel some kind of rivalry with the other clubs....
but meh, football is all about opinions. in my part of the world my opinions are considered more or less fact and they dont even need saying. which is strange cos I come on here and suddenly everyone makes me feel like I'm an alien who landed with a kkk outfit and a nazi flag.
If I may say so kaizoku, you're problem is that you are a little paranoid and take things too personally. You are talking about spicing things up, but as soon as somebody responds to you in a piss taking manner you get all defensive and think that everybody is insinuating that you are an idiot. I don't think that's the case at all.
And even if it were - you shouldn't give a ****. It's not like you seem unable to defend yourself.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I think the conversation in this thread is very civil (especially since the topic is football), and I don't think there's any hatred for any poster here. I'd be very surprised if there was.
And even if it were - you shouldn't give a ****. It's not like you seem unable to defend yourself.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I think the conversation in this thread is very civil (especially since the topic is football), and I don't think there's any hatred for any poster here. I'd be very surprised if there was.
If there's something I don't get, it would be all the hate for Chelsea. It really sounds like everyone's hate for Chelsea stems completely from jealousy and nothing else. I mean, if Abramovich were to acquire your club and give it a virtually unlimited warchest in the transfer market, would you end up hating the man and lament the situation that your club have ended up in?
MrPing1000
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hadareud said:
Its not paranoia, the past few posts directed at me confirm that I'm in the minority here, (actually I'm isolated but ok). Sometimes I have to clarify that I'm not some kind of troll or idiot come along to cause trouble for the sake of it.
Sometimes the football debate sways between serious and light hearted, thats just the nature of debate. I hope everyone can understand that even if I were to get fired up, I'm not getting abusive or angry
I dont think I get particularly defensive, that last post from shinobi re pizzagate was very defensive so I backed off from that. I dont want things getting out of hand
the fact is its usually me vs at least 2 of you so I can often come across as unreasonable or even deranged simply because our opinions are polar opposites. any neutral reading that kind of argument would come to the conslusion that the lone man utd fan is insane
oh well. its good that you civil fans be exposed to some of that raging mutual hatred and rivalry you might not otherwise experience!
when I get bored of you gooners I'll move onto that liverpool fan
but i dunno he seems much more delicate than you guys.
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
Its wrong to have an unlimited warchest in the transfer market. Chelsea have so much money that they can buy players just so no one esle can. Did Chelsea really need ballack? Not really, they only bought him because they knew that United were interested. Did chelsea need Wright Philips? Not at all. They already had duff, robben and cole, who are reagrded as some of the best wingers in the world, they didnt need to add another winger to the squad. They only did it because ASrsenal were showing interest.ElyrionX said:
You can say what you libe about chelsea not buying success, but money has been by far the biggest reason for their success. Without the russian mafia, chelsea wouldnt have been able to hire mourinho, they wouldnt have been able to have the luxury of spending $400 million on players over 3 years and without all those things chelsea wouldnt be the same team. The money that Chelsea are using could be illegal money too. No one knows much about abramovich, but we've all got a feeling that some of his fortune must have been receieved illegally.
Anopther thing that pisses me off about chelsea is the way that they've acted in certain situations. What happened toi anders frisk was out of order. Mourinho was bullshitting about Rijkaard speaking to the ref during half time and because of chelsea and their fans, frisk had to resign because he feared for his life and his families life. Thats completely out of order.
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
In recent years we have behaved better than most teams, but we've had our very bad moments when it comes to conduct. Several seasons ago our players looked like they were going to stab Andy D'urso for giving a decision against united. Poor behaviour doesnt occur too much from United players, but we've been very guilty of it in the past.kaizoku said:
well, not everything needs to be explained though. I hated Chelsea for as long as I can think back, certainly since I first became interested in English football and quite possibly even longer than that, probably for around 12 or 14 years. Believe me, when my dislike for Chelsea developed it was most certainly not out of jealousy. Of course their current success doesn't make things easier, but I wouldn't necessarily call that jealousy.ElyrionX said:
Back to the point though, you sometimes do not need a reason to not like something or someone. I honestly couldn't tell you why I disliked them, or why I developed into an Arsenal fan for that matter. I could say it's because of Arsenals history and the football they play, but it would be a lie.
That brings up an interesting point: how did you people become fans of your team? Can you explain it? If you're from Manchester, why do you support Man Utd and not City? Why Arsenal and not Tottenham etc.?
That would be an interesting discussion, maybe somebody wants to start ...
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
I lived in stockport, which is actually a city fan area, but my house was just a corner away from burnage, which is a united fan area. I grew up at the time when Manchester United were a very dominant side, so most kids were supporting Manchester United. All my friends were united fans, so they are the ones that influenced me the most to become a united fan.hadareud said:
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
Money is the biggest reason in almost every club's success. I read an article not too long ago about how the amount a club spends on wages is almost directly proportional to their success.
BTW, updating predictions is fine, but I will go your original ones when the results are over. I figure you know that, but just in case.
Liverpool have an 80% chance of going through within the 90 minutes btw. Before the first leg Barcelona were more likely to go through, because they were more likely to win at home whilst the odds were very even between a home win, away win and draw at Anfield (eeeeeever so slightly in favour of Liverpool at home though).
Liverpool upset the odds with their away win at Barcelona. A 1-2 scoreline was the 8th most likely result (after 1-0, 1-1, 2-0, 0-0, 2-1, 0-1, 3-0) and only had a 1 in 21 chance of happening. So now things look very different.
The reason they now have such good odds is clear, if you think about it. Any draw will send them through. So 0-0, 1-1, 2-2, 3-3...they're fine. Any result where Barca 0 would send them through (1-0, 2-0, 3-0...). Any score where Barca score 1 will send them through (0-1, 1-1, 2-1, 3-1...).
Barcelona, on the other hand, have it much worse. Any draw would send them out, if they score either 0 goals or 1 goal they're out. Even their best odds on a result where they score 2 goals is a 2-1 victory, which would only lead to extra-time. They could of course go through with a Liverpool victory, they just have to only lose by 1 and score more away goals. However, thanks to Liverpool having 2 away goals already, that's quite unlikely. The higher scoring you go, particularly from both teams, the less likely the result. There's only a 1 in 67 chance of a 2-3 or a 3-4 scoreline.
I don't want people to think I'm saying Barcelona are definitely going out, or that Liverpool are through already. If I was saying that, I'd be giving Liverpool a 100% chance of going through. Liverpool have a 4 in 5 chance of going through in 90 minutes. Barca have a 1 in 7 chance. And there's a 1 in 14 chance of extra-time.
That simply means if this game was played 7 times, Barcelona would go through once, on average. And odds a hell of a lot worse than that have been beaten (hell, it happens every weekend somewhere), I seem to recall Greece were less than 1 in 100 to win the European Championship, yet they managed it. People think odds like that mean there's no way they'll do it, but it doesn't. It means if the tournament was played a 100 times, Greece should win it once. And that just happened to be that once.
Anyway, these are all based on stats which lots of you won't care about and some of you may even dislike, but they're true all the same.
BTW, updating predictions is fine, but I will go your original ones when the results are over. I figure you know that, but just in case.
Liverpool have an 80% chance of going through within the 90 minutes btw. Before the first leg Barcelona were more likely to go through, because they were more likely to win at home whilst the odds were very even between a home win, away win and draw at Anfield (eeeeeever so slightly in favour of Liverpool at home though).
Liverpool upset the odds with their away win at Barcelona. A 1-2 scoreline was the 8th most likely result (after 1-0, 1-1, 2-0, 0-0, 2-1, 0-1, 3-0) and only had a 1 in 21 chance of happening. So now things look very different.
The reason they now have such good odds is clear, if you think about it. Any draw will send them through. So 0-0, 1-1, 2-2, 3-3...they're fine. Any result where Barca 0 would send them through (1-0, 2-0, 3-0...). Any score where Barca score 1 will send them through (0-1, 1-1, 2-1, 3-1...).
Barcelona, on the other hand, have it much worse. Any draw would send them out, if they score either 0 goals or 1 goal they're out. Even their best odds on a result where they score 2 goals is a 2-1 victory, which would only lead to extra-time. They could of course go through with a Liverpool victory, they just have to only lose by 1 and score more away goals. However, thanks to Liverpool having 2 away goals already, that's quite unlikely. The higher scoring you go, particularly from both teams, the less likely the result. There's only a 1 in 67 chance of a 2-3 or a 3-4 scoreline.
I don't want people to think I'm saying Barcelona are definitely going out, or that Liverpool are through already. If I was saying that, I'd be giving Liverpool a 100% chance of going through. Liverpool have a 4 in 5 chance of going through in 90 minutes. Barca have a 1 in 7 chance. And there's a 1 in 14 chance of extra-time.
That simply means if this game was played 7 times, Barcelona would go through once, on average. And odds a hell of a lot worse than that have been beaten (hell, it happens every weekend somewhere), I seem to recall Greece were less than 1 in 100 to win the European Championship, yet they managed it. People think odds like that mean there's no way they'll do it, but it doesn't. It means if the tournament was played a 100 times, Greece should win it once. And that just happened to be that once.
Anyway, these are all based on stats which lots of you won't care about and some of you may even dislike, but they're true all the same.
Alright, since I asked I have to answer it myself too:
I grew up in Austria, playing football for my home town in various youth teams (up until I was 16 or something, when I decided that getting pissed and stoned was more interesting to me. That's also when I started making music, but that's another story).
So, I was actually most interested in Austrian football obviously - but there was never a team that I really supported, apart from the national team. I did however start getting interested in Rapid Vienna's fan culture a bit later on, at a point that they weren't that successful. I started to become interested in English football in the early to mid 90's, following the league but not actually preferring a team. That was until Wenger took over at Arsenal and for some reason I became more and more interested in the club, learning about the history and the fans and so on. So my interest in Arsenal got stronger and stronger, the internet becoming popular at the time and having access to a lot of information helped quite a bit of course.
So when I moved to the UK over 5 years ago (**** me, I'm getting old) I was already a fan - I then became a member and started to go to games on a semi regular basis when I moved to London 3 years ago. Although I'd like to go more often - 5 to 10 games a season is clearly not good enough.
So why exactly my interest sparked I can't explain. I usually tend to support the underdog, but Arsenal cannot really be considered that. More now than then though.
I grew up in Austria, playing football for my home town in various youth teams (up until I was 16 or something, when I decided that getting pissed and stoned was more interesting to me. That's also when I started making music, but that's another story).
So, I was actually most interested in Austrian football obviously - but there was never a team that I really supported, apart from the national team. I did however start getting interested in Rapid Vienna's fan culture a bit later on, at a point that they weren't that successful. I started to become interested in English football in the early to mid 90's, following the league but not actually preferring a team. That was until Wenger took over at Arsenal and for some reason I became more and more interested in the club, learning about the history and the fans and so on. So my interest in Arsenal got stronger and stronger, the internet becoming popular at the time and having access to a lot of information helped quite a bit of course.
So when I moved to the UK over 5 years ago (**** me, I'm getting old) I was already a fan - I then became a member and started to go to games on a semi regular basis when I moved to London 3 years ago. Although I'd like to go more often - 5 to 10 games a season is clearly not good enough.
So why exactly my interest sparked I can't explain. I usually tend to support the underdog, but Arsenal cannot really be considered that. More now than then though.
MrPing1000
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In Ireland, specifically Northern Ireland our standard of football is very low. As a result most people here support an English team the majority are either Liverpool or Manchester United (more Liverpool).
My father is a United supporter, he's supported them since way back when in the 1960's. As a result I'm a United fan too. It could have been different though, my friends and my childminders family were all Liverpool (and Hearts) fans, I nearly went down the path to oblivion.
Still watching Liverpool win the champions league with a room full of Liverpool fans (and one Leeds fan lol) was not exactly the most fun time.
My father is a United supporter, he's supported them since way back when in the 1960's. As a result I'm a United fan too. It could have been different though, my friends and my childminders family were all Liverpool (and Hearts) fans, I nearly went down the path to oblivion.
Still watching Liverpool win the champions league with a room full of Liverpool fans (and one Leeds fan lol) was not exactly the most fun time.
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
hadareud said:
I grew up in a town with no real football team (well, there is one, but they're currently in the Northern Premier League First Division, not very appealing), but roughly an equal distance from Preston, Bolton and Blackburn. About 20 minutes away from each by car, I never actually found out which was nearer geographically. My parents have no interest in football and neither do my siblings, I really don't know how I came to it. Just fell in love I guess. So there was no team to follow from them. My uncle supports Everton (though his name's Michael Owen...I love telling people I'm related to Michael Owen and leaving out the important part) and my Grandad supports Wolves, but they live quite far away so were no real influence.
Most people around me picked one of the big north-west clubs, which is fair enough. If you don't live in the actual town, it's quite common to pick one of the big clubs in the area, Liverpool and Manchester were only about 30 minutes away. The 3 clubs I was looking at weren't even in the top flight though. Bolton and Preston were in the old division 3 and Blackburn were in the old division 2, so I chose them. We weren't a strong division 2 team, but we were local and seemed to have more of a chance than the other two to make it to the top flight (which we did rapidly, I was lucky enough to start supporting them right around the time Jack Walker took over, not that I knew that then).
I've never regretted it. I have a cousin who lives in the midlands slightly older than me who, so far in his life, has supported Liverpool, Newcastle and now he seems to ahve stuck on Arsenal. I could never change teams! Besides, it's exciting being a Blackburn supporter. I've seen us promoted through the play offs, promoted automatically, win the league cup, win the Premiership, play in the UEFA Cup, play in the Champions League, ahve the top goalscorer in the country...but I've also seen us relegated, fighting relegation battles and just making it...I've seen the highs and the lows. We've even been invovled in record transfers, in Shearer, Sutton and Duff. A number of teams have experienced the highs, a LOT of teams have gone through the lows and some even have the incredibly boring task of sitting there mid-table forever (I'm looking at you, Spurs), but few could say they've had everything.
Now if we could just win the FA Cup this year...
Squirrel Killer
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Cincinnati Reds - I lived in Dayton, 45 minutes north of Cincy during the Big Red Machine days.hadareud said:
Dallas Cowboys - The Bengals mostly sucked during that same time frame, so I went with a) a team that had players I liked, b) was good at the time, and c) not the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Iowa Hawkeyes - Alma mater.
St Louis Blues - When I first started following hockey, I liked Brett Hull, and that combined with the NHLPA '03 uber team of Hull, Shanahan, Oates, and CuJo in net made the Blues easy to support. Until I had a weird roommate who loved the Blues too. And then ugly color change. They eventually got back to some attractive unis, but it was too late to keep me.
Quad City Mallards - I settled down in the Quad Cities just as the Mallards started up. Went to their first game, which included a goalie fight. Unfortunately, the friend I went with didn't want to stick around for the end of a blowout, so I totally missed it.
Detroit Red Wings - After Hull left and the weird roommate, I felt the need to support an additional team (totally in violation of Simmons' Rules for Being a True Fan) and settled on Detroit since I was born there and Nicklas Lidström is by far my favorite player. For the record, I considered myself a duo Blues-Red Wings fan before the Red Wings won the Stanly Cup in 1997, so I'm not a complete bandwagoner.
Chicago Machine - I played club lacrosse in college, but after college there was never a pro team near enough to me to really develop a connection to. I followed the Baltimore Bayhawks, but not with any real interest. In 2006, MLL expanded to Chicago, which is as close as I can hope for. What can I say, they gave me a record setting season. 0-12, baby! At least the two home games I went to were hard fought and close.
And finally on topic...
Tottenham Hotspur - I never really found a team that I was comfortable playing with in any of the football video games until I read Bill Simmons article about his picking Spurs as the EPL team he was going to follow. That was one team I hadn't tried yet, so I gave them a go and rattled off 7-8 straight comfortable wins. So I did some reading up on the team, liked what I read, liked their kits, liked that they were playing in Europe, liked the Shakespearian reference, so I made the leap of faith. We'll see how it goes.
Supporting Liverpool runs in my family. Most of my family support Liverpool except for a few that support Arsenal (SCUM). I was born and raised all Liverpool, I wasn't given a choice on who to support, my dad made sure I supported Liverpool and yes I am glad...
If I hadn't have been brought up this way, I would have supported a team in London either Tottenham (closest to me), Arsenal (2nd closest to me) or West Ham (shudder... sorry Ghost).
The reason my dad raised me to be a Liverpool supporter is that, even though he is from Cyprus originally, he lived much of his teenage life and several years in Liverpool, where he formed a band and he fell in love with the city, the life and the club.. hence why he is a supporter. I'm just glad he didn't pick Everton... that would be awful.
and yes I am glad...If I hadn't have been brought up this way, I would have supported a team in London either Tottenham (closest to me), Arsenal (2nd closest to me) or West Ham (shudder... sorry Ghost).
The reason my dad raised me to be a Liverpool supporter is that, even though he is from Cyprus originally, he lived much of his teenage life and several years in Liverpool, where he formed a band and he fell in love with the city, the life and the club.. hence why he is a supporter. I'm just glad he didn't pick Everton... that would be awful.
hadareud said:
I got into football really late, I always knew it existed but I didnt really understand, its like you see some guys on a green pitch running around and its as irrelevent as watching a horse race or ice skating competition or whatever, everyones unknown, its all meaningless etc.
I don't come from a football family but I did decide I want to get into the sport as I found myself starting to enjoy playing it. But I didnt know who to support. I didnt really know the difference between Utd or City or what teams did or did not exist etc. I saw people win FA cups and so on but it was meaningless to me, I didnt have any kind of knowledge of the sport at all so there was no value attached to success etc.
One day I was watching some team play in red and everything just clicked. It was one of those classic Cantona inspired counter attacks, and I just fell in love. Found out the team was Man Utd and started learning about the club from then on. First and foremost I'm a fan of beautiful football and of great stories and entertainment. Just so happens I live in Manchester and the club is the epitomy of everything I love and value in life, which is nice.
p.s. I realise Utd and Fergie are no angels, but so what if the ref gets some players in his face, it looks bad but we didnt hurt him or sulk and walk off the pitch. its just emotions. they did go over the top but that kind of stuff doesnt bother me so much. important they realised and decided not to do it again though.
That kind of stuff doesnt make me feel ashamed as a Utd fan, what does is if a Utd player were to fall down after a tiny touch and act like some poor victim. We're proud, arrogant and dont stoop that low. Lehmann vs Drogba pushing match for example, hilarious. Any Utd player doing that would be told to stop and practically disowned by the players, fans etc.
Cornballer
Member
That's cool you brought this up - I was going to ask this question sooner or later anyway. I played a lot of football (errr, soccer) growing up here in California. I was in high school during the World Cup in 1994 and got to watch a couple games at Stanford. One of my best friends that I played football with spent a year in North London when his dad was working at a hospital there, so he ended up being a Spurs fan. After the World Cup, he encouraged me to pick a team from England to support. I asked him who Dennis Bergkamp played for (since I was impressed by the way he played for Holland during the World Cup), and he explained that he had just moved to Arsenal. So I've been an Arsenal fan ever since, and he and I don't speak for a while after North London derby matches. :lolhadareud said:
Champions League ties for today...
Chelsea v FC Porto (First Leg: 1 - 1)
Lyon v Roma (First Leg: 0 - 0)
Liverpool v Barcelona (First Leg: 2 - 1)
Valencia v Inter Milan (First Leg: 2 - 2)
Cornballer
Member
Arsenal team news for tomorrow...
Oh, and the Arsenal and Chelsea reserves got into it last night. Good times...
Arsenal.com said:
Oh, and the Arsenal and Chelsea reserves got into it last night. Good times...
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
I meant to comment on that Henry thing earlier, when there was a risk that if he did play, he could make the injury worse.
That's got to be worth the risk. The CL is really all that's left for Arsenal this year, they lost to the winners of the league cup, lost to the winners of the FA Cup and aren't going to win the title. With or without Henry they'll be fine qualifying for the CL next year, so this is probably the most important game of their season right now.
I forgot to mention, I also have vague likings for teams I have the shirt from. Whenever someone I know goes abroad and asks if there's anything I want them to pick up, I ask for a local football shirt. Not an official one, that's far too expensive, one of the cheap rip offs. I currently have Roma (could have been Lazio, I didn't specify, Roma just happened to turn up), Fiorentina, Napoli, FC Porto and Barcelona shirts.
Actually the Barcelona shirt is a real one, if you remember I won one signed by Ronaldinho a while back. They're really the only team I don't have much fondness for, of those whose shirt I have, I think because I just don't like backing dominant teams. That's probably the reason I chose Blackburn over bigger north-west sides and why I'm not as in love with Brazil as the average football fan seems to be.
That's got to be worth the risk. The CL is really all that's left for Arsenal this year, they lost to the winners of the league cup, lost to the winners of the FA Cup and aren't going to win the title. With or without Henry they'll be fine qualifying for the CL next year, so this is probably the most important game of their season right now.
I forgot to mention, I also have vague likings for teams I have the shirt from. Whenever someone I know goes abroad and asks if there's anything I want them to pick up, I ask for a local football shirt. Not an official one, that's far too expensive, one of the cheap rip offs. I currently have Roma (could have been Lazio, I didn't specify, Roma just happened to turn up), Fiorentina, Napoli, FC Porto and Barcelona shirts.
Actually the Barcelona shirt is a real one, if you remember I won one signed by Ronaldinho a while back. They're really the only team I don't have much fondness for, of those whose shirt I have, I think because I just don't like backing dominant teams. That's probably the reason I chose Blackburn over bigger north-west sides and why I'm not as in love with Brazil as the average football fan seems to be.
Cornballer
Member
It'll be interesting to see what Wenger does. As far as I can remember, Henry doesn't typically play that while when he's injured or coming off the bench, so it's a risk putting him out there. But as you say, it's probably a risk worth taking given what he's capable of.Mama Smurf said:
Very interesting stories, quite cool to read that.
Anyway, Wenger is not usually known to rush players when they're not fully fit. So I suppose the risk must be relatively small. Wenger didn't look to pleased about the progress of Gallas's injury for instance and it seemed that he blamed himself for the injury taking longer than expected.
That's what I hope anyway. Now that Adebayor can play I don't think he should start Henry if he's not absolutely certain that nothing bad comes from it.
Anyway, Wenger is not usually known to rush players when they're not fully fit. So I suppose the risk must be relatively small. Wenger didn't look to pleased about the progress of Gallas's injury for instance and it seemed that he blamed himself for the injury taking longer than expected.
That's what I hope anyway. Now that Adebayor can play I don't think he should start Henry if he's not absolutely certain that nothing bad comes from it.
Cornballer
Member
Who would you start alongside Adebayor if Henry can't play? Baptista? Aliadiere? Walcott? No one? Just curious...hadareud said:
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
I'd play Baptista. He makes me laugh, sometimes his touch and choices are terrible, but I guarantee if you played him every game, he'd get at least 15 goals a season. I find Aliadiere plays consistently at an okay level, but Baptista can either be way above Aliadiere's level or below it depending on the day. Take the risk...if Henry isn't playing.
I love saying Aliadiere. He's replaced Makelele.
I love saying Aliadiere. He's replaced Makelele.
yeah, I'd like to see him too, but I think Wenger disagrees.
He is really funny to watch - and he has one thing that most of our other players are missing: the right instinct in the box, and he is not afraid to shoot instead of passing.
One thing though: please don't let him take any more freekicks for a couple of weeks. I might have a fit if he does.
He is really funny to watch - and he has one thing that most of our other players are missing: the right instinct in the box, and he is not afraid to shoot instead of passing.
One thing though: please don't let him take any more freekicks for a couple of weeks. I might have a fit if he does.
Cornballer
Member
I agree on Baptista, but as Hadareud pointed out, he might be tired out after all of the recent games. I do feel like if his touch ever starts working (again?) he's going to be a very dangerous player.Mama Smurf said:
It will be very interesting to see what happens with the Baptista and Reyes loan deals this summer. Reyes did his knee over the weekend and will be out for about 4 weeks, and I would guess that decreases the odds of Real wanting to hang on to him. I have no idea how Wenger feels about Baptista at the moment.
:lol Me too. I like adding extra syllables: Alialialiadiere.
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
I read you might be buying Ryan Babel from Ajax, who's yet another left wing/potential future Henry guy. If that happens then I don't see room for Reyes.
Cornballer
Member
I don't think Reyes wants to come back in any case - he's burned his bridges here to some extent. The problem is that if he's crocked, then it makes it harder to sell him to someone.
The word from Ajax is that Babel recently signed a new deal until 2010, but that may have been a way to ensure they get good transfer money for him. I suppose there's always the Ribery rumor that won't go away. Alongside the Babel rumor, the papers were speculating that if we picked him up, we'd dump Freddie.
The word from Ajax is that Babel recently signed a new deal until 2010, but that may have been a way to ensure they get good transfer money for him. I suppose there's always the Ribery rumor that won't go away. Alongside the Babel rumor, the papers were speculating that if we picked him up, we'd dump Freddie.
I really hope Reyes doesn't come back.
He's a good player, make no mistake, but he's a brat. I really do not want to see his diving followed by a smirk ever again, he annoyed the **** out of me last year. I am usually never one that is complaining about the clubs players like that, but there's just something about him that I can't stand. He also gave up playing in every game after the second time somebody took the ball of him or looked at him in a way that he didn't appreciate.
He also wasn't shy to state that he absolutely does not care to come back to Arsenal on several occasions.
Worst of all - if Real aren't going to keep him, who will want to buy him for a decent amount of money? This could be one of the few players Arsenal are going to take a massive loss on.
edit: forgot about Babel. I have heard good things about him. I shall interview my girlfriend tonight (she's dutch).
He's a good player, make no mistake, but he's a brat. I really do not want to see his diving followed by a smirk ever again, he annoyed the **** out of me last year. I am usually never one that is complaining about the clubs players like that, but there's just something about him that I can't stand. He also gave up playing in every game after the second time somebody took the ball of him or looked at him in a way that he didn't appreciate.
He also wasn't shy to state that he absolutely does not care to come back to Arsenal on several occasions.
Worst of all - if Real aren't going to keep him, who will want to buy him for a decent amount of money? This could be one of the few players Arsenal are going to take a massive loss on.
edit: forgot about Babel. I have heard good things about him. I shall interview my girlfriend tonight (she's dutch).
Mama Smurf
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I'm really looking forward to this, I expect Liverpool will play exactly the same way they did at the Nou Camp.
Mama Smurf
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Great start from Liverpool. Barca seem to want to pass it around at the back to tempt Liverpool out...but why would they?
EDIT: ****ing hell Riise. Best shooter from outside the box in the league.
EDIT: ****ing hell Riise. Best shooter from outside the box in the league.
Cornballer
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Porto's up 1-0.
GOAL! Chelsea 0 - 1 Porto (Quaresma 15) Well, well, well. As Chelsea arms appealed for offside, Quaresma sprinted onto Assuncao's pass before sliding the ball under the advancing Cech with the outside of his right foot. He timed his run to perfection, produced a superbly composed finish, and now, ladies and gentlemen, we have a game on our hands.
GOAL! Chelsea 0 - 1 Porto (Quaresma 15) Well, well, well. As Chelsea arms appealed for offside, Quaresma sprinted onto Assuncao's pass before sliding the ball under the advancing Cech with the outside of his right foot. He timed his run to perfection, produced a superbly composed finish, and now, ladies and gentlemen, we have a game on our hands.
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
Man, Barca could be well out of this game already. As it is, Liverpool have done well but haven't been able to take advantage of it.
Mama Smurf
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I can't believe this is 0-0 :lol Even Sissoko almost scored! I think that's 10 shots to 0.
Hey remember Man Utd at the weekend...
Hey remember Man Utd at the weekend...
Cornballer
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Wow, how many times have they hit the crossbar already.
Mama Smurf
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cybamerc said:
Please STFU. I'm not even going to respond seriously, aside from the STFU bit, that's one of the stupidest comments anyone's ever made in this topic.
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