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Official Football Thread 2006/2007 (Soccer)
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oh excellent! Chelsea need to lose some points soon, or else they are gonna get the same confidence they had last season - which would be bad for everyone.Osorio said:
Anyway, I can't believe Arsenal are not up at this point, Charlton are giving them the space and the time - we have some problem scoring.
That said it was a very important goal for The Perse, he was getting frustrated again and nearly got himself sent off. This goal should hopefully give him the confidence to score another one. Henry is slowly getting there I'd say, he is playing close to his best again - what a difference from a few weeks ago. I'm watching the game on the internet with English commentary (for once I don't need to listen to the very strange chinese commentary, with people laughing hysterically at points where no one is supposed to laugh).
So if Arsenal win and Chelsea don't it's a perfect afternoon!
Getting off the topic of the Chelsea-Aston Villa game I read this interesting article on soccer in Canada: http://www.canada.com/topics/sports/hockey/story.html?id=b7d5b475-be8a-4e42-aa9b-34519455338d&k=9868
Maybe after Toronto FC, MLS can add the Impact to the league?
I guess I'll add to this post by putting some pictures of BMO Field.
Maybe after Toronto FC, MLS can add the Impact to the league?
I guess I'll add to this post by putting some pictures of BMO Field.
what a great day!
It was a really good game second half, Charton went for it and nearly got something out of the game if it wouldn't haven been for an incredible safe from Lehmann and a really bad miss from Hasselbaink. Gallas was also very lucky with a handball in the box.
Of course Persie, Fabregas and Henry missed absolute sitters too. So in reality the game could have ended 5:3 really.
Chelsea didn't win. Too bad!
It was a really good game second half, Charton went for it and nearly got something out of the game if it wouldn't haven been for an incredible safe from Lehmann and a really bad miss from Hasselbaink. Gallas was also very lucky with a handball in the box.
Of course Persie, Fabregas and Henry missed absolute sitters too. So in reality the game could have ended 5:3 really.
Chelsea didn't win. Too bad!
Osorio said:
:lol :lol :lol :lol
Scousers are famous for their their whinging and moaning about everything under the sun. This is why they have huge moans and ceremonies for everything and sing their depressing self-comforting anthem at every opportunity.
They dont seem to realise the head of the FA is a big Liverpool fan and so is the BBCs. They have strong influence in both now.
Its Man Utd who always get the short end of the stick - FACT!!
hadareud said:
I guess he responded. :lol That second goal was ****ing ridiculous...the bar just blew up when that ball almost tore through the twine. It could be years before he ever scores one like that again. :lol Oh yeah, that's Eboue's third goal-generating cross in as many matches...he's come into his own in this regard the last little while.
Charlton didn't make things easy though, which is to their credit. I can't believe the absolute sitter that Hasslebank squandered. Guess he should do a little less yapping during the game. Anyway, 11 points with a game in hand isn't bad at all...and five wins on the trot is a good way to head into the international break.
kaizoku said:
Good to see Chelsea dropping some points as well. How impressive has Villa been so far? No defeats, snatching points at Emirates and Stamford, and looking like a completely different side to a year ago. Just an incredible coaching job by O'Neill.
jamesinclair
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Great King Bowser
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Shinobi said:
He's had a bunch of great games but he was caught out of position for their goal and the JFH chance at the end which could've cost us two points.
Finally a fine display and win in PL 
Excellent performance from C. Ronaldo and Fletcher. Although Ron did shot too many, he was unlucky to be goaless today. And he created some great chances for others. Fletcher also had some fine shot. Just the bar and great save from Taylor denied his goal :lol
Still overall display is not in the top form yet, esp Rooney. Maybe he needs a goal to find his form back...
Excellent performance from C. Ronaldo and Fletcher. Although Ron did shot too many, he was unlucky to be goaless today. And he created some great chances for others. Fletcher also had some fine shot. Just the bar and great save from Taylor denied his goal :lol Still overall display is not in the top form yet, esp Rooney. Maybe he needs a goal to find his form back...
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
We are back on the table! It was a good performance. The whole team played well. Ronaldo was a class above the rest. has been unbelieveable, he is on such good form. At the moment he is untouchable. At time she got a bit greedy, but he hit the woodwork 3 times and he did deserve a goal.
The other outstanding player was fletcher oddly. He's always been criticised but Fletcher has been performing very well as of late. His preferred psoition is in the middle, but he has been playing on the right and he's been doing a great job. His passing was spot on and he was running back and making tackles. Fltechers biggest problem was that he had no body strength and he couldnt impose himself, but over the last few games and today especially he showed his strength; he had a very good game.
We could have scored 5 or 6 today. Ronaldo should have scored atleast one goal, scholes should have had one when he had a great chance but messed it up by trying to chip the goalie and we should have had a penalty after Fletchers shot got clearly blocked by taylors hand. Taylor covered it up by clutching his stomach in pain to try and make it look like it hit him in the stomach, but it clearly hit his arm
The only bad thing about todays game was Heinze's injury, but Its not too much of a huge concern becvause we have got evra and I think Evra is better than heinze. Evra has got pace and he's also a very good defender. Heinze is a big tough guy, but he is very slow and he keeps using his arm.
Overall im very happy. We are at the top of the table and we are playing well again, so hopefully we can get a good run going.
The other outstanding player was fletcher oddly. He's always been criticised but Fletcher has been performing very well as of late. His preferred psoition is in the middle, but he has been playing on the right and he's been doing a great job. His passing was spot on and he was running back and making tackles. Fltechers biggest problem was that he had no body strength and he couldnt impose himself, but over the last few games and today especially he showed his strength; he had a very good game.
We could have scored 5 or 6 today. Ronaldo should have scored atleast one goal, scholes should have had one when he had a great chance but messed it up by trying to chip the goalie and we should have had a penalty after Fletchers shot got clearly blocked by taylors hand. Taylor covered it up by clutching his stomach in pain to try and make it look like it hit him in the stomach, but it clearly hit his arm
The only bad thing about todays game was Heinze's injury, but Its not too much of a huge concern becvause we have got evra and I think Evra is better than heinze. Evra has got pace and he's also a very good defender. Heinze is a big tough guy, but he is very slow and he keeps using his arm.
Overall im very happy. We are at the top of the table and we are playing well again, so hopefully we can get a good run going.
BatiGOOOOOOL
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Ghost, what's going on with Tevez and Mascherano?
I follow the EPL on Fox Sports Latin America but they have yet to broadcast a WHU game oddly enough. I know they've been losing left and right, so I can only assume they've been disappointing so far.
I follow the EPL on Fox Sports Latin America but they have yet to broadcast a WHU game oddly enough. I know they've been losing left and right, so I can only assume they've been disappointing so far.
brooklyngooner
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Tevez is the real deal. If he can start getting some decent service, he will knock them in for fun. He can easily turn people for pace and has a very quick shot.
Anyone else see Zokora's flagrant bullshit, btw?
Anyone else see Zokora's flagrant bullshit, btw?
Barça won yesterday in another horrible match. Ronaldinho continues being in another planet and the lack of Etoo is noticeable: A LOT. Luckily for us there is a man called Gudjohnsen who knows what is going to the field to work...and then the oldie fellow Saviola who showed he is in great shape.
Madrid-At.Madrid ended 1-1
And Valencia totally killed Nástic in a 4-0...
Madrid-At.Madrid ended 1-1
And Valencia totally killed Nástic in a 4-0...
Great King Bowser
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Oh god Zokora.
BatiGOOOOOOL
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ourumov said:
Luckily for you, Villar is on your side. :-| Otherwise, you'd never be at the top and Real Madrid players wouldn't get sent off because of non-existant fouls like today with Sergio Ramos.
Agent Dormer
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I like soccer (or as I guess the people in this thread call it, football) and after watching all the World Cup stuff this year, I wanted to start following soccer more. What would be the best way to go about picking a team to root for in the EPL?
Agent Dormer
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Osorio said:
Indeed.
Picking a team cold is kinda tough. The easiest way is to go with the team that's shown the most, and these days that's gonna be Chelsea (the champs), Man U (the most popular) and Arsenal (the most attractive playing team). Problem is you'll be accused of being a frontrunner for getting behind these teams, and rightly so. :lol Going for a lower end club means you probably have little shot at seeing them legitimately battle for the division for the next 50 years, and that might not be to your liking either.
For some reason I've got Liverpool in my mind as a good team to latch onto, and I really don't know why. They've got a ton of history, but haven't been a dominating team since the 80's. They won the Champions League two seasons ago when nobody expected them to do anything. Steven Gerrard is one of the best and most liked players in the game. I figured they'd be a division contender this year, but they've struggled in the first couple months. So in that sense you wouldn't look like a total frontrunner for adopting them. :lol
But beyond that, I'd just read up on each team and figure it out for yourself. One thing you could try is to compare the team forums at www.vitalfootball.co.uk and see which base of fans you'd identify with the most (or which base of fans disgust you the least :lol).
For some reason I've got Liverpool in my mind as a good team to latch onto, and I really don't know why. They've got a ton of history, but haven't been a dominating team since the 80's. They won the Champions League two seasons ago when nobody expected them to do anything. Steven Gerrard is one of the best and most liked players in the game. I figured they'd be a division contender this year, but they've struggled in the first couple months. So in that sense you wouldn't look like a total frontrunner for adopting them. :lol
But beyond that, I'd just read up on each team and figure it out for yourself. One thing you could try is to compare the team forums at www.vitalfootball.co.uk and see which base of fans you'd identify with the most (or which base of fans disgust you the least :lol).
Alright my next question is where are you located? Going with an EPL team is nice as I do it myself, but it's also good to support the local teams. As for who you should support, most Americans I know support either Manchester United, Arsenal, or Liverpool because they don't get relegated and do well every year.Agent Dormer said:
brooklyngooner
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Agent Dormer said:
There are a lot of Yanks playing in England these days, so one way to do it is to support your favorite national team player's side. American goalkeepers are especially successful, but McBride, Convey and some defender on Watford (the name escapes me, he's from Wisconsin) and more have done quite well.
The other way is to tell me where you're from and what sports teams you like here and I can tell you what teams approximate them in England in terms of areas they're from, supporters, history, etc. You'll get lots of input, but one thing we all agree on in this thread is that Chelsea can stick its ****ing roubles up its arse.
I don't want to seem obsessed with Van Persie, but I just have to say a few more things about him.
Arsene Wenger said:
Wenger basically said what I said a few days ago (maybe I wasn't as elaborate with "grow up for ****s sake"). I hope that this 2 goals give him back the confidence, but the problem with him is that he vents his frustration the wrong way - and he needs to learn quickly that he can't do that playing for a club like Arsenal. Or else he will be one of those "whatever happened to him, he was such a great talent" cases. And I'd hate for that to happen. The Perse is one of the players I really want to come good, I don't know why exactly, but I have a soft spot for him.
He was very lucky not to be sent off on Saturday just a few minutes before he scored his first goal. You can see how close hero to absolute disaster is with him. If he would have been sent off (for a foul that was not only completely unnecessary but also incredibly stupid btw.) I don't think Wenger would have started him for a very very long time.
Unlike brooklygooner I do think he can play very well together with Henry, I think the two of them could be a great duo once they click, and I feel that they will click soon. So I really hope we've seen all of his immaturity for this season.
brooklyngooner
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It's actually not that I think he can't, just that he doesn't seem to now. At any rate he has to accept he will be a striker who plays off the main one and adjust to not having play go through him since Henry is an automatic on the team sheet obviously.
His petulance has rubbed me the wrong way a great deal; it's almost cost us some games, some would argue it has already. But I don't doubt his skill and vision. It's more whether he's a good fit for the system and personnel. But obviously Arsene knows, as we say.
Nice post btw.
EDIT: I would add also that I think he really wants to make it at Arsenal, and his passion is fantastic, he's just got to learn how to channel it properly.
His petulance has rubbed me the wrong way a great deal; it's almost cost us some games, some would argue it has already. But I don't doubt his skill and vision. It's more whether he's a good fit for the system and personnel. But obviously Arsene knows, as we say.
Nice post btw.
EDIT: I would add also that I think he really wants to make it at Arsenal, and his passion is fantastic, he's just got to learn how to channel it properly.
um...dont wanna start some kind of ruckus, but why do you guys laugh when I say Man Utd get harshly treated by everyone? Curious as to what you're basing that on.
FA, UK newspapers, FIFA, UEFA, BBC etc....
Its a widely accepted fact over here, its almost a national joke. Utd are the most loved team in the world, but also the most hated. Maybe you guys need to be made more aware?
Man Utd matches are often shown last on BBC MOTD - who are banned from OT. In 1994 and 1996 Man Utd won the Double twice and DID NOT get awarded Team of the Year at all. It took a Treble for them to give us the award for the first time since 1968 - when it took a European Cup!
Multiple times when something bad happens to Utd, its ignored by the media, and in turn the public ignores it. Brown's attempted leg breaker on Giggs for example. Didnt even get a replay on the BBC, but they showed other harsh tackles i.e. Thatcher - about a hundred times on Sky Sports News.
They labelled Ronaldo a diver and mention it everytime he plays whether he dives or not, but brush over the fact that Arsenal and Chelsea are full of divers.
The FA banned Rio Ferdinand for 8 months for not taking a drugs test, whereas people who actually fail their tests got half the sentence. Sepp Blatter came out before Rio's trial to say "he better get a severe punishment or else" - ruling out the concept of a fair trial.
Ronaldo got a ban for his gesture at Benfica last season which was nothing, Rooney and Scholes had red cards in friendlies turned into proper 3 match suspensions - the first time thats happened, Gerrard et al seem to get away with red cards in friendlies, but not Utd.
The vitriol aimed at Ronaldo at the WC was stupid, not like he got Rooney sent off, we had papers saying "dont let this man back in the UK". The papers were loving the fact two of Utd's youngsters were involved in this melee.
I could go on, I know every team feels this way. But thats blatantly wrong for 2 teams. Arsenal until recently had lots of power at the FA thanks to Dein being a very important figure. Now they have Barwick who is a Liverpool fan.
BBC also have a strong Liverpool bias thanks to previous links with Barwick - look at the MOTD roster, loads of liverpool influence in there.
Arsenal and Liverpool are the darlings of the nation's media.
/lesson
FA, UK newspapers, FIFA, UEFA, BBC etc....
Its a widely accepted fact over here, its almost a national joke. Utd are the most loved team in the world, but also the most hated. Maybe you guys need to be made more aware?
Man Utd matches are often shown last on BBC MOTD - who are banned from OT. In 1994 and 1996 Man Utd won the Double twice and DID NOT get awarded Team of the Year at all. It took a Treble for them to give us the award for the first time since 1968 - when it took a European Cup!
Multiple times when something bad happens to Utd, its ignored by the media, and in turn the public ignores it. Brown's attempted leg breaker on Giggs for example. Didnt even get a replay on the BBC, but they showed other harsh tackles i.e. Thatcher - about a hundred times on Sky Sports News.
They labelled Ronaldo a diver and mention it everytime he plays whether he dives or not, but brush over the fact that Arsenal and Chelsea are full of divers.
The FA banned Rio Ferdinand for 8 months for not taking a drugs test, whereas people who actually fail their tests got half the sentence. Sepp Blatter came out before Rio's trial to say "he better get a severe punishment or else" - ruling out the concept of a fair trial.
Ronaldo got a ban for his gesture at Benfica last season which was nothing, Rooney and Scholes had red cards in friendlies turned into proper 3 match suspensions - the first time thats happened, Gerrard et al seem to get away with red cards in friendlies, but not Utd.
The vitriol aimed at Ronaldo at the WC was stupid, not like he got Rooney sent off, we had papers saying "dont let this man back in the UK". The papers were loving the fact two of Utd's youngsters were involved in this melee.
I could go on, I know every team feels this way. But thats blatantly wrong for 2 teams. Arsenal until recently had lots of power at the FA thanks to Dein being a very important figure. Now they have Barwick who is a Liverpool fan.
BBC also have a strong Liverpool bias thanks to previous links with Barwick - look at the MOTD roster, loads of liverpool influence in there.
Arsenal and Liverpool are the darlings of the nation's media.
/lesson
Stevie Gerrard
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kaizoku said:
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everyone can come up with a list of what he dislikes about what happened to his club and how unfairly they are portrayed in the media. I really don't want to do it because I think it's stupid. Just one thing, if you must know, just think back 3 years with the Van Nistelrooy saga at Old Trafford. Arsenal were portrayed as the scum of the earth. Anyway, it's ridiculous and I will stop right here with this.kaizoku said:
Also, if Arsenal and Liverpool are portrayed in a better way than Manyoo (and I don't think they are) there is a reason for that. It's how those clubs and their employees behave and the tradition they have.
Do you think Ferguson is a well liked guy? Is that because of how he behaves or is it envy? You be the judge.
And you have Andy Gray on your side
hadareud said:everyone can come up with a list of what he dislikes about what happened to his club and how unfairly they are portrayed in the media. I really don't want to do it because I think it's stupid. Just one thing, if you must know, just think back 3 years with the Van Nistelrooy saga at Old Trafford. Arsenal were portrayed as the scum of the earth. Anyway, it's ridiculous and I will stop right here with this.
Also, if Arsenal and Liverpool are portrayed in a better way than Manyoo (and I don't think they are) there is a reason for that. It's how those clubs and their employees behave and the tradition they have.
Do you think Ferguson is a well liked guy? Is that because of how he behaves or is it envy? You be the judge.
And you have Andy Gray on your side
Andy Gray happens to be the best pundit around
I do like him whether hs is pro-utd or not.That act vs Ruud was horrible (surely you must agree with that), but did you see the punishment for it? Nothing. Not even a slap on the wrist. Thats when it became apparent that the FA was not acting fairly and subsequent actions down the line have led to David Dein having to leave his post at the FA. The bias towards Arsenal was rearing its head.
I like the fact everyone is anti-utd, shows we are the best, and I like the feeling of it being "us against the world - I just felt like you guys weren't aware of it and could do with some kind of "awareness programme".
Theres a phrase over here - "Anyone But Utd" aka ABUs. Some people don't even support a team but dedicate themselves to hating Utd. The same way some people set up ihateronaldo websites.
brooklyngooner
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Stevie Gerrard said:
Yeah that one amused me as well.
brooklyngooner
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Did anyone see the Blades-Boro encounter? As much as I despise Warnock, it was refreshing to see a manager bring on two forwards with 15 mins left to have a go at the points and get rewarded for it. Jagielka's winner was a stunner.
Of course the Southgate watch is in effect, but he should never have been given that position.
Of course the Southgate watch is in effect, but he should never have been given that position.
I saw parts of it and I agree, even though I don't like Warnock I think it is actually quite refreshing to have a character like that (that you can also hate) that doesn't think that defending alone will get them somewhere.brooklyngooner said:
Boro, they have a problem, they don't play bad at all - they just don't seem to be able to score goals this season. Their defending is just as good as it was the last few years - absolute shit that is. Even though they now have a central defence pair in Woodgate and Pogatetz that is actually quite quality. I couldn't agree more about Southgate, I really don't think he's the manager type. You never know what can happen though.
brooklyngooner
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In both Southgate's and Pearce's cases, I think it was just too soon. I don't doubt their enthusiasm, and that often produces short-term results as it did for both sides. But they belong as assistant managers now, per Adams at Portsmouth. Their tactical acumen will be left wanting without time to observe games from the bench (which is different from participating) and to learn how to deal with a team over the course of a full season and two Cups, and in the case of City and Boro, teams with limited budgets and/or debts need all they can get from their resources...that's a difficult job. I'd hate to see either side go down, because Boro seem committed to youth and City are, well, City, too much fun to have those Manc derbies and watch the Goater put two past United. Neither side should with their personnel, so one wonders how long the slides will be allowed to run. In City's case, relegation would be disastrous -- it would be Leeds all over again.
jamesinclair
Banned
Agent Dormer said:
Oh oh, youve made your first mistake already.
European soccer.
Talk more about Serie A people!
Third match without any goal for us anyway or should I say that it is the second match when the referees havent learnt the new offside rules?
Something is missing and it is luck, the team really need to rest before they can wake up and win the CL!!!!!
Third match without any goal for us anyway or should I say that it is the second match when the referees havent learnt the new offside rules?
Something is missing and it is luck, the team really need to rest before they can wake up and win the CL!!!!!
Cornballer
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Dr Zhivago
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kaizoku said:
Well your whole post is comedy central, but why is this point anti-Man U? MOTD often show a 'big' game last so viewers keep watching until the end of the show.
This concept that everyone hates Man U has been carefully cultivated over the years by Ferguson. I mean, Alan Hansen used to back Man U for the title regularly (back when they had a chance of winning it :lol )
Dagless M.D.
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kaizoku said:Andy Gray happens to be the best pundit around
I stopped listening right there
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