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Official Football Thread 2006/2007 (Soccer)
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lachesis
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So, big question is, who'll be replacing Henry? Since Wenger likes young boys, my bet's on Babel! :lol
Seriously, it finally hit me that Arsenal is not the gunners that I used to no anymore - like imagining Real Maddrid w/o Raul, Juventus w/o Del Piero, and Liverpool w/o Gerrard.
Seriously, it finally hit me that Arsenal is not the gunners that I used to no anymore - like imagining Real Maddrid w/o Raul, Juventus w/o Del Piero, and Liverpool w/o Gerrard.
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
lachesis said:
Was that intentional?
Cornballer
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At least he's not tasting their melons.Mama Smurf said:
lachesis said:
Yeah pretty much. It's not the team I fell in love with, but it's still Arsenal. True fans won't ditch their club now. I think it will be a tough season for us, but then again, we did fine for half of the season without Henry. Hopefully we'll make a decent signing, if not, we still have everyone that played for us for the last half of the season.
I'm gonna hate seeing Henry in a Barca shirt, but whatever. I guess it was his time to move on. I can see why he was frustrated. Hell, I'm still frustrated with the team and this rough patch we are going through. Honestly though, I can't see us doing much worse than last season.
Cornballer
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US Roster for the Copa America. Missing most of our best players who are headed back to MLS/Europe. Falch should note that Nguyen is in there. After the lineup that Argentina posted, this squad is going to have a tough time picking up a point from that match.
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
lachesis said:Well, more like another burning failure trying too hard to be funny.
No I liked it, I like it when people just drop things into the middle of sentences and keep going without needing to point at it and go :lol
I just couldn't tell if you'd slipped up, perhaps because English isn't your first language (I think), or if you meant it.
Cornballer
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Two reasons:Ryck said:
1) The Gold Cup is our confederations competition, so out of respect for that we're supposed to send the best team.
2) Winning the Gold Cup qualifies us for the Confederations Cup in 2009 in South Africa.
We were never really going to have a great shot at winning the Copa America, so it's being used more to blood some youngsters and give them an opportunity under tough conditions. Hopefully they end up learning something from the experience that they can use in the future. We'll see how that works out....
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
I know a full two of those US players *proud*
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
Missed Kasey Keller. 3, I know 3!
Cornballer
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Heh. Which two? Keller and Demerit?Mama Smurf said:
The starting eleven won't be terrible, but the bench is thin. There's a lot of really young kids, too. I have to admit that I've never heard of Drew Moor before this roster was announced.
Cornballer
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Looks like he got his wish and will be staying home. Man, there's going to be some serious roster shuffling in LA with all of the new players. Yallop has to be under some pressure to start producing results very soon.Karakand said:
Mama Smurf
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Those two and I think I know Eddie Johnson. I don't know how, did he have a good World Cup? I might be mixing him up with another Johnson, if there's been one previously.
Cornballer
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Naw, he played a bit in the WC, but certainly wasn't a star. Then again, pretty much our whole team was crap last WC.Mama Smurf said:
Cornballer
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I think they need to reconsider this poll....
He's already got 2.4% of the vote. Maybe his mom is voting a lot?
Cornballer
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Good point. Deuce played pretty well. I'm pretty much in denial about the entire US WC06 experience at this point, so I forget a lot of things. The copious amounts of German beer may have had something to do with that....AstroLad said:
Mama Smurf
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hadareud said:
That's the one.
I used to get him mixed up with Bill Murray. You can see why.
velvet_nitemare
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I lol'd...now let's see who Wenger brings in.
RVP for premiership top scorer next season
RVP for premiership top scorer next season
Cornballer
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I'll keep you posted.Falch said:
I'm not sure how much playing time he'll get since it's a lot of young/uncapped players. Most of the midfielders on the roster play centrally, so he may get some time on the wing.Cornballer said:I'll keep you posted.
Yeah, I remember the one and only time he got substituted he played as a leftwinger at PSV. Here's a Youtube video of him during that match. Can't believe someone took the time to edit that, it's not like anything really happened. :lol
Mama Smurf
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Should have just taken Kroenke's money, how bad could it be? So there'd be some debt, it's not like Wenger spent much anyway.
Now Dein gone, causing Wenger to possibly (probably?) leave next summer, leaving Henry feeling he has no option but to get out while he can, and possibly losing Fabregas next year too as he said he goes where Wenger goes.
And I get the feeling Wenger inspires loyalty in his top players, just how many will he take with him to Madrid or Barcelona or wherever?
Now Dein gone, causing Wenger to possibly (probably?) leave next summer, leaving Henry feeling he has no option but to get out while he can, and possibly losing Fabregas next year too as he said he goes where Wenger goes.
And I get the feeling Wenger inspires loyalty in his top players, just how many will he take with him to Madrid or Barcelona or wherever?
Outdoor Miner
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Mama Smurf said:
They really fudged that one IMO.
Who cares if the ownership is American? The price they'll ultimately pay for keeping the Yanks off the team may not be worth it in the end.
h0pper said:
That's ****ing absurd. Vieria threatened to leave Arsenal every summer for like five years running, but NOBODY every questioned his commitment or leadership when he played for us.
Of courseHenry was never the right player to make the skipper anyway...Wenger basically threw it on him to force him to stay on last season. But I still say Henry did a fine job carrying this team on his back in the second half of last season. Once the bitter tears have subsided, most reasonable Gooners will remember how good he was for us, and wish him the best of luck instead of telling him to **** off.
The positive for me is that he goes to the one team that might play more attractive football than us. Henry, Ronaldinhio and Messi is just a ridiculous lineup to face, and if Eto'o stays on as well (and I hope he does, he's wanted this), it'll almost be unfair. Hate to admit it, but I'll probably end up being a bit of a Barca fan now.
The only thing that pisses me off about the sale is the price. If you're going to sell someone like Henry, you don't take a penny less then 25 mill. Otherwise what's the ****ing point?
We'll see how the other shoe drops...though Gooners had better get used to hearing Fabregas to Real/Barca rumours from now till 2015. Particularly if Wenger joins Barca a year from now. :lol
And frankly, that's what really frightens me...players even of Henry's stature come and go, but Wenger leaving is the sort of move that could take Arsenal five years to recover from.
It also occurs to me that Dien's incredibly hasty dimissal came in part due to a sickening level of arrogance and assumptiveness from the Arsenal board, acting as if every American who wants to invest in an EPL team only does so for the money and no other reason. It kinda ties in with the way the MLS is perceived by the English press to be nothing more then a ****ing varsity league, when nothing could be further from the truth. Looks like that move has bitten us in the ass...just hope it doesn't take any more chunks out.
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
Arsenals situation reminds me of uniteds problems in the summer. We lost Van Nistelrooy for a very low price and everyone was saying that we were screwed because we lost ruud and didnt replace him, we bought a very overpriced midfield and it looked like we were going to lose ronaldo. However i think all that stuff that happened during the summer helped us a bit because we had a lot to prove.
So you never know. All this crap could mihg tnot be so bad, but alternatively it could also **** you up really badly.
So you never know. All this crap could mihg tnot be so bad, but alternatively it could also **** you up really badly.
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
I find it quite amusing that someone said that things were boring and then one of the biggest transfers happens shortly after
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
Anyway, in other news, Juve have signed Tiago along with some other player called almiron. Tiago is an interesting buy. They paid 10 million pounds for him. He never really stood out at chelsea, but Ive heard he did quite well art Lyon. He's probably one of those players that just couldnt settle into the premiership, but put him in a league he's more comfortable with and he's a good midfielder.
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
He'll be 31 by the start of the 2008/ 09 season. The wording isnt perfect because he wont be 31 straight after the end of next season. He will turn 31 a couple of months later.Steroyd said:
Waking up to this statement.
I can't tell you how disappointed I am in Henry to come out with this. Thanks to him and this statement we will not only have a summer of doom and gloom but a whole year.
No matter the intentions of Kroenke, this is something that would lead to the instant dismissal of anyone. The board had to act and they did.
You know what, if our captain thinks that Arsenal is David Dein it's best for all that he is gone. I can't tell you how much this pisses me off. I still love him, but good riddance.
I can't tell you how disappointed I am in Henry to come out with this. Thanks to him and this statement we will not only have a summer of doom and gloom but a whole year.
hold on. We don't know what happened exactly - but if the rumours are true, David Dein was basically trying to sell the club behind everybody's back.Shinobi said:
No matter the intentions of Kroenke, this is something that would lead to the instant dismissal of anyone. The board had to act and they did.
You know what, if our captain thinks that Arsenal is David Dein it's best for all that he is gone. I can't tell you how much this pisses me off. I still love him, but good riddance.
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
There are benefits to henry leaving. The way he talked in the press suggested that he believed tht he was bigger than the club. He always went on about how he wanted wenger to sign stars so that arsenal can match his expectations, but he talked about it like he was the only ****ing person who had the expectiations of winning silverware. Its not like the rest of the team were happy about coming 4th; Im sure they all wanted to do much better.
I dont get how a player can go because someone on the board leaves. A player shouldnt have any relation with the board. The manager can complain because he has to work with them, but a player should only work woth the manager. Deins ddeparture shouldnt have affected henry.
Arsenal did mess up big time by not letting the club being bought. Dein ws the only person who was looking at this correctly. Every team is getting investment and they are able to spend a lot of money to bring in the best players. Arsene's showed that he can compete with a limited budget, but its becoming a lot more difficult to do so. Players are getting more and more expensive.
I dont get how a player can go because someone on the board leaves. A player shouldnt have any relation with the board. The manager can complain because he has to work with them, but a player should only work woth the manager. Deins ddeparture shouldnt have affected henry.
Arsenal did mess up big time by not letting the club being bought. Dein ws the only person who was looking at this correctly. Every team is getting investment and they are able to spend a lot of money to bring in the best players. Arsene's showed that he can compete with a limited budget, but its becoming a lot more difficult to do so. Players are getting more and more expensive.
If that rumour is true, then the board really had no choice but to let dein go, but both the board and dein are to blame. If dein did try to sell the club behind everyone's back, he must have done it because the board oppose the move. Now the board should have had a more open mind about the matter. had they done so, then Dein might still be there. Even if Dein didnt try to sell the club behind everyone's back, it still shows that the board didnt think this through properly. I wouldnt call it arrogance, its more like ignorance.hadareud said:
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
Its going to be really wierd for everyone not to have henry in the premierleague. He's been such a dominant figure. As a United fan, this is probably good news, but Im just as much a fan of the EPL, so this move isnt so good in that sense. I want to see all the best players play in the EPL and now we've lost one of the best.
the more I think of the statement he released the more classless it becomes.
If you leave, leave. But shut the **** up! He was at this club for 8 years, his best footballing years - won everything there is to win except for the Champions League and while the club has a lot to be thankful for so does he.
To now come out with this statement is an absolute joke. There was no need to say anything, and definitely no reason to act like a self important little bitch.
I am beyond disappointed in him.
If you leave, leave. But shut the **** up! He was at this club for 8 years, his best footballing years - won everything there is to win except for the Champions League and while the club has a lot to be thankful for so does he.
To now come out with this statement is an absolute joke. There was no need to say anything, and definitely no reason to act like a self important little bitch.
I am beyond disappointed in him.
Sqrt_minus_one
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I do not agree psycho_snake, the club should not be bought all this would provide would be short term stability in exchange for a long term drain on profits. As for Dein trying to sell the club behind everyone's back, Dein is a smart fellow I'm sure and he has a firmer grasp of finance than myself so I cannot see how that would be true also the board themselves control a significant proportion of the shares so it would be pointless trying to do so without their knowledge.
My personal hope about all this was that in the end Kroenke would provide financial backing for player purchases in exchange for a greater holding say an increase to 15% along with a re-appointment of Dein. This would bring back stability and give us a larger transfer budget but it seems even the board are against moves in that direction.
http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2109476,00.html
My personal hope about all this was that in the end Kroenke would provide financial backing for player purchases in exchange for a greater holding say an increase to 15% along with a re-appointment of Dein. This would bring back stability and give us a larger transfer budget but it seems even the board are against moves in that direction.
http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2109476,00.html
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
How will there be less profit in the future if he bought the club? The club have a new stadium, which will greatly increase revenue. If the takeover did go ahead, then arsenal would also have more money in the transfer market, which will mean that you can ccreate a stronger team, have a better chance of winning silverware and bringing in more money to the club. As long as there was no huge debt being put on the club, then I cant see any major problems.
psycho_snake
I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
In the last three years arsenal have lost vieira, pires, cole and now Henry. Those three players were so vital to your success and all three of them are still so good. Pires was arguably the one player that was past it, but I think that he would still have been a useful member to the squad. I know that wenger wants a younger team, but letting those players go is making the transition period a lot harder to deal with.
personally I think that losing Pires and Henry is the hardest to take, but there you go.
We're a new club now. In a very strange way it might help that Henry is gone, it could bring the rest of the team together. Let's see what happens, I would love to hear from Wenger now.
We're a new club now. In a very strange way it might help that Henry is gone, it could bring the rest of the team together. Let's see what happens, I would love to hear from Wenger now.
Sqrt_minus_one
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But I do not see how there will not be a huge debt being put on the club as someone has to repay the funds Kroenke puts down to buy the club. Its not like the board are just going to hand over the shares for nothing.
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